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Old 10-25-2008, 09:53 PM
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I agree with most of your post, Deep, but there's no reason she couldn't have figured this one out on her own after Moscow. For that matter, much of what we perceive as response to fan criticism could just be her independently noticing the same things herself. I know that analyzing and improving upon your own performances is one of Mylene's showbiz strategies.
Snatcher, all I can say is that I know, with certain knowledge, that Alizée does browse her fan sites and pay attention to what her fans say. I wasn't saying that these changes in the performances prove it, only that since I know she does, that's the most likely explanation.

And it's good to know Alizée had such a good teacher as Mylène Farmer. I'm sure it means we'll see continuous improvements over time. Remember, she's only starting to do her own thing without having it all managed for her! We must expect, and forgive, some early stumbles. This is not the end, my brave lads! Up, up and set upon the foe with vigor, nor ever admit defeat!

Meanwhile, I have some personal good news to report, although this isn't necessarily the right place for it. I received the very best sort of rejection letter form an agent today for The Stairway to Nowhere. She said she enjoyed it, was especially impressed with my voice, and thinks I'm really talented; unfortunately, the manuscript I sent her needs focus and tightening -- but she'd love to see something from me in the future.

Now the really cool thing about this is that I'm already in the process of tightening and focusing Stairway based on advice from a writers' support group I've formed, and so I'm going to fax her on Monday and see if her interest in seeing more from me in the future would include the revised Stairway. Hopefully it will, and I have a feeling this is going to be my agent -- but this is very encouraging regardless. So I'm feeling upbeat about the prospects for my own artistic success, as well as those of Her Grace.
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:07 PM
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Remember, she's only starting to do her own thing without having it all managed for her!
Thats something I havent think about! She is doing well though its her first album without MF help
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Old 10-26-2008, 01:52 AM
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Alizée does browse this forum sometimes, Ed. (And, I assume, she also browses the French language forums. I don't know that for certain the way I know she browses this one, but it makes no sense that she wouldn't.) I know you're skeptical of that, but it's true. I have it on good authority. She has, without a doubt, read some of your posts. And she does read English, although she's still not very good at speaking or writing it.

She does respond to constructive criticism from fans. We've seen it happen, in the increased interaction with her audience, and the replacement of high heels with sneakers.

The problem with a lot of Scruffy's critique is that it's not constructive, meaning it's not advice Alizée is able to take. No way is she going to go back to working with Mylène and Laurent like in the old days, and that seems to be the only thing that would make him happy.
Along those lines, I may - if I can find the time - post some ideas how Alizée might more successfully structure her comeback - taking a mixed marketing-performing perspective. I do think a tighter focus would help her greatly, and she has much success to choose from and build upon. Since this might be a rather detailed proposal involving mostly do's - but a few don't as well, it will take some time to lay it all out. At least I've been thinking about doing this since taking an interest in her public story as it unfolded over the past year or so. I'm still not certain though that a fan site is the ideal forum to undertake such a detailed effort, so then again I might not get no further than writing this concluding sentence.
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Old 10-26-2008, 04:19 AM
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Old 10-26-2008, 11:23 AM
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Sorry, no. Take my word for it, or don't.
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Old 10-26-2008, 04:15 PM
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Alizée does browse this forum sometimes, Ed.

All such criticism should try to be helpful to her, though. Bitching just for the sake of bitching doesn't do her any good.
Yeah, I remember reading that (HI ALIZEE! ) - just kinda trying to not run Scruffy off the track and over the cliff - just trying to point out, in my own ham-handed way, that too much negativity and his posts would just get skipped right over and ignored...

I like you guys alot, and hate to see "conflict" here. Really wish RMJ would come back - without his penchant for inflexability... (HI RMJ! )

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Old 10-26-2008, 04:21 PM
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I'm sure it means we'll see continuous improvements over time. Remember, she's only starting to do her own thing without having it all managed for her! We must expect, and forgive, some early stumbles. This is not the end, my brave lads! Up, up and set upon the foe with vigor, nor ever admit defeat!
A little "MOTIVATIONAL" music for you guys (and gals!).

http://hell.pl/szymon/Baen/There%20W...Cambreadth.mp3

"The March of Cambreadth"
Author: Heather Alexander

Axes flash, broadswords swing
Shining armors’ piercing ring
Horses run with polished shield
Fight those bastards ‘til they yield

Midnight mare, blood red roan
Fight to keep this land your own
Sound the horn and call the cry
How many of them can we make die?

Follow orders as you’re told
Make their yellow blood run cold
Fight until you die or drop
A force like ours is hard to stop

Close your mind to stress and pain
Fight ‘til you’re no longer sane
Let not one damn cur pass by
How many of them can we make die?

Guard your women and children well
Send these bastards back to Hell
We’ll teach them the ways of war
And they won’t come here anymore

Use your shield and use your head
Fight ‘til everyone is dead
Raise the flag up to the sky
How many of them can we make die?

Dawn has broke, the time has come
Move your feet to the marching drum
We’ll win the war and pay the toll
Fight as one in heart and soul

Midnight mare and blood red roan
Fight to keep this land your own
Sound the horn and call the cry
How many of them can we make die?

Axes flash, broadswords swing
Shining armors’ piercing ring
Horses run with polished shield
Fight those bastards ‘til they yield

Midnight mare and blood red roan
Fight to keep this land your own
Sound the horn and call the cry
How many of them can we make die?
How many of them can we make die?
How many of them can we make die?

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Hey! Thanks! I liked that! ^
Celtic style music is right up there along with Scandinavian Folk to me!
The vocalist should probably not try to sound like Billy Boyd, should be a bit more like this:

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Harvest the field of time
with the old man's scythe
The narrow path of the chosen one
reaches beyond life

*I set sails for the ageless winds
No fear of dying or a thought of surrender
I threaten every barrier on my way
I am bound forever with Token of Time

Among the humble people
Everything is torn apart
but I'm blessed with faith
and bravely I shall go on

Are thou the bringer of hope and joy
that I've waited for years
I shall fight to restore the moon
Wisdoms of time are carved on the sacred wood

Do thou possess spiritual powers
that would dispel all my fears
I shall not die until the seal is broken
Token of Time is trusted in the hands of the chosen one
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Old 10-26-2008, 05:41 PM
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Hey! Thanks! I liked that! ^
Celtic style music is right up there along with Scandinavian Folk to me!
The vocalist should probably not try to sound like Billy Boyd, should be a bit more like this:
/bows.....

Your welcome good sir!

I'm just bummed that I can't hear your music, because I'm at work, and it won't load!

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Old 10-27-2008, 12:54 AM
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Oh yes, she may browse this forum sometimes, she had said it. Just having the idea that She has ever read at least one of my posts excites me .

uhh, but reading some comments in your myspace, and knowing some of them are only shit, makes it a boring task, though not every comment is so bad. If I was her, I would read the PMs .

Ohh yes, Alizee if you are reading, keep browsing our website , you may have fun.
From what I've seen Alizee can barely speak English let alone interpret it. I doubt she browses much if any. The same way I would not brouse a French speaking website. I can't speak or read it.
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