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Old 02-04-2008, 06:06 PM
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You obviously haven't read the articles. Oh well, if you choose to remain ignorant and cling to some fantasy that's not my problem.
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:18 PM
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hi
it's not my fault if you don't want to admit a french invented the first car
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Am 9. Oktober 1890, im Park ein Schloss nahe Paris Clément Ader (49 Jahre) liegt über dem Boden an Bord einer Maschine zu Maschine und Propeller.

Styled Éole, diese Maschine in Form von Fledermäusen ermöglicht es dem Erfinder, französisch, ein Anstieg von 50 Meter ... In einigen Dutzend Zentimetern Höhe.

Die Performance scheint, aber es ist das erste Mal, dass ein Mann erfolgreich zu fliegen an Bord einer Maschine schwerer als Luft und nicht um einen Luftballon (Ballon).

Ingenieur für Eisenbahnen des Midi, Clément Ader hat sein Gerät entwickelt, bei denen der Flug der Flughunde (eine Vielzahl von Fledermäusen). Es hat den Namen "Flugzeug".
huh?
about planes clément ader: éole 1890... wright brothers: flyer 1903 huh?
about cars delamarre deboutteville: 1884... daimler: 1886 huh?
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:41 PM
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For one I was not talking definitely and generally, that's because I've never been there, true. But I can tell you what's in here from your country
You don't have to, I already know.

But look at it this way: the reason that stuff is what we export is because it's what sells. The companies that do it are doing it to make money, which they do when they offer what the most people want to buy. And that means there must be a lot of people in Europe who want to buy

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adolescents suffering from inferiority complex talking their crap hip-hop and jumping like monkeys around looking and behaving unappealing and smoking crap
Right? So who's to blame here?

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But I love american animated movies and some comedies(movies). It's what we get anyways, the showbiz.
Naturally, but the point is everything that gets sent overseas from here is by necessity mass-market. It's not worth it to send something of limited appeal.

Sometimes I wonder if part of the reason we export cultural trash only is because if Europeans actually saw something good, intellectual, and artistic coming out of the U.S. it would cause too much cognitive dissonance. I'm reminded of the fact that Roman writers writing in Greek (which was the literary language in those days) would always make sure to include at least one glaring grammatical or rhetorical mistake, in order to better market the work to Greeks who were convinced no Roman could possibly write perfect Greek.

Anyway, if you're ever over this way, remind me and I'll whip you up some seafood jambalaya and smokey mixed veggies, and serve it with a Pyramid pale ale. We'll put on some vintage rock & roll or cutting-edge jazz, and watch some of the movies that never make it to that side of the pond.
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No racism, or anything bordering it, please. - Cooney


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Anyway, if you're ever over this way, remind me and I'll whip you up some seafood jambalaya and smokey mixed veggies, and serve it with a Pyramid pale ale. We'll put on some vintage rock & roll or cutting-edge jazz, and watch some of the movies that never make it to that side of the pond.
haha...ok, got it!
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Or you can come to Minnesota and I'll serve you some Eelpout and we'll wash it down with some Summit Ale.

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about planes clément ader: éole 1890... wright brothers: flyer 1903 huh?
As far as the airplane goes, I think this is a simple misunderstanding. Clément Ader may have accomplished exactly what you say, but the test of the time was that the airplane had to be maneuverable in order to be considered a successful invention. The Wright Flyer could be controlled by the pilot to climb and descend, and turn left and right with ease. This made the invention useful. To take off and land with no directional control was an accomplishment, but not a very practical one. The Wright Flyer was the first airplane to be controllable and useful. That was the criteria set forth at the time to define what an “airplane” is. I’m defining “the first airplane” accordingly. If you define it as any powered, heavier-than-air craft that can get off the ground, then you could say Clément Ader’s machine was “the first airplane”.

I’m only interested in accuracy here. I don’t care what nation the inventor was from, as I take no pride in accomplishments that I personally had nothing to do with.
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:07 AM
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My biggest impression of France came with the Battle of Yorktown!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Yorktown

"On September 28, 1781, Washington and Rochambeau, along with La Fayette’s troops and 3,000 of de Grasse’s men, arrived at Yorktown."

As seen in the above sentence - taken from the wiki article - France has been a BIG help/influence in and on America for over 200 yrs.

Alizée is the just the newest (and I admit, imho, best) influence!


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All of these cultural claims to being the first at things! Wonderful, wonderful. But you wouldn't have gotten far without me - I invented air. HA!

P.S. I'll probably regret this post.
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:58 PM
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I love spaceballs!
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Old 02-06-2008, 09:17 PM
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I love spaceballs!
Yogurt said this..."Spaceballs 2, the search for more money" I haven't seen a sequel yet. I wish for one though.
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