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02-18-2019, 02:29 AM
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Alizee's physical coordination: a major part of her x-factor
Alizee's physical coordination is remarkable.
You can see it in the way Alizee walks. Here she is walking across the stage at the end of Ella Ella L'a: https://youtu.be/8jlYB5ielJ8?t=208 (To see how graceful and well-coordinated she is, I recommend watching it at 1/2 speed.) You can see how gracefully she puts one foot in front of the other. Alizee's head doesn't bob as she walks-- its like she's on rails. Also notice the steps at the edge of stage--- she looks down at them prior to reaching the steps-- but when she is going down the steps she is looking straight ahead, not looking down at her feet. Also, just prior to going down the steps she turns her head and looks to the left for a few seconds and then looks straight ahead again--- without interrupting her walking. I can't imagine a woman walking more gracefully than this. I think Alizee's physical coordination is a significant part of her x-factor, and its not just the dancing, its evident in everything she does-- walking, gesturing, etc. I think its evident in Scruffy's autograph video and its evident in that video of her BBQ'ing in her backyard. There is a graceful precision to all of Alizee's physical actions--- it gives her a "presence", for lack of a better term. This "presence" thing is elusive--- it took me awhile to figure out what it is. I was thinking at first that it was some kind of personality trait--- but that's not it. Although Alizee's personality is delightful and very feminine, it is her motor reflexes-- rather than her personality-- which give Alizee her "presence". Once again, a good example of "presence" is the way she walks across the stage at the end of Ella Ella L'a--- what we are seeing is motor reflexes, not personality. (Well, that's the "theory". Let me know what you think.) Last edited by Mr Coucou; 02-18-2019 at 03:24 AM.. 
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02-18-2019, 03:36 AM
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You look at this video where's she's passing the time by bouncing the ball off the wall during the filming of J'en ai marre. She looks well coordinated. Someone not well coordinated would have used 2 hands, but she used one. You add to that she was into kick boxing. I'll bet she was into other sports too and I kind of wonder if she might have been a tomboy? So maybe it's her sports type of coordination, combined with the grace of her dancing that made her dancing when she became a star so special and unique? I look at this moment here and wonder if this guy's life was in great peril? Alizée was the star, trying to relieve long moments of boredom and somehow he got the ball and started playing with it. Someone needed to have a long talk with this guy. https://youtu.be/UfaQJsQXG-0?t=20 peril.jpg peril 2.jpg
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02-18-2019, 04:11 AM
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Hahah, she looks so cute on the second picture. A bit like Arale.
Looking at all the comments from 8 years ago, feels like it was a century ago. I wonder where all these people went, it's kinda sad. Last edited by eru777; 02-18-2019 at 04:14 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doubleposts
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02-18-2019, 07:03 AM
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02-18-2019, 07:52 AM
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 In the Ella Elle L'a video, right at 3:29, Alizee has a slight down gaze and seems to be judging the stair 3-4 feet beforehand, then she lifts up and looks to the left and does not have to look down again while stepping down. That is confidence. After reading viewing it, I had to go to La Isla Bonita, where Alizee makes her entrance. Everybody has watched it (most of us over and over and over again). Here she is bumping her hips out as she walks out singing, down two stairs, and finally to the mic stand. Granted, she had to look down twice to navigate those stairs, but it looks more like a natural blinking of the eyelids. If you look at the top of her head, it is at a very steady height, even though she is glancing around along with moving forward. Very graceful. Best effect is with sound off. https://youtu.be/xq-aTe77bkA?t=20 I wonder if she had practiced walking around with a book on her head to help her with posture and graceful walking?
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02-19-2019, 04:50 AM
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And the way she's able to "see" the steps in front of her without actually looking at them--- I don't think something like that can be learned. I would suspect that Alizee's physical coordination and her visualization ability are interconnected, like two sides of the same coin.
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02-19-2019, 06:18 PM
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Oh dear,
   I "love you guys to bits", have infinite respect for you, but maaaaaan, sometimes you waaayyy "overthink" things. What has Alizée wanted to be, and indeed has been, from a very early age??  A "dancer"... That kind of thing really does NOT just "happen". It requires "intense" and "prolonged" "practice" and "repetition". How do I know, well I dated a hugely successful dancer for about 2 years, and this idea was her "mantra". And if you look at the things that I was involved with throughout my career, similar concepts applied. Call it "Advanced Tactical Movement", in my case. Imagine "practicing" and "rehearsing" dancing, and dance steps for around of maybe at least 4 or 5 hours a day, maybe as much as eight or 9 hours, maybe every day, or every other day. You practice your steps in "slow motion", "normal speed", and if necessary in "double time".  They become "second nature" to you. You know instinctively how far a certain "dance step" is going to take you, you know "how many" of a certain step are going to take "you how" far, and if you need to "ad lib" and vary your "step" to "fit" a certain distance. When you go to a new "venue" you just don't get out there and perform, you have to "rehearse" and "plan" intensively, both before, and after, you get there. That stage is "mapped out", and trust me, she has it "down pat" where she has to be, and when she has to be there. Distances are "known", "steps" and "moves" required are "known quantities" Grace, becomes "second nature.  Being a good "dancer" is kind of like being a "Swan", for, "above" the "surface", everything is "beautiful", "breathtaking" and "serene", but "under the surface", well, its pretty damn "frenetic" down there, a lot of things happening at the same time, and none of them by accident. Her "motor reflexes" are excellent, her "spacial awareness" is excellent, as is her "innate" ability to think and act "on the fly". Add the things above to "training" and "rehearsal" and you have got the absolutely "spellbinding" "artiste" that is Alizée. Wonders like that DO NOT just happen by native "skills" and/or "hardwired" ability. Her "X-Factor"... You may, or may not, "understand" this one... "Innate Spirituality"... She's actually a very "spiritual" young lady... If you have the "eyes to see it", then she is a "wonderful", "complex", "rather compelling", "healing light" in the "darkness", and you "understand"... If you don't have the "eyes to see it", then she is just "hella" compelling for some reason, and you are probably thinking "What you talkin' 'bout Willis"... But it is there, and does exist... A very "complex", very "special", pretty damn wonderful person, is Alizée... Last edited by RedRafe; 02-21-2019 at 02:29 AM..
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02-19-2019, 08:11 PM
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It spills into my personal time as well, which can work against me. However, my favorite subject to "overthink" is Alizee. Quote:
Alizee's early dancing while performing had her feet kicking out like she did in live versions of Moi Lolita but also saw her doing it in some other songs. When she was 17, she reached a different level. Alizee performed Gourmandises on Graines de Star a few months after her 17th birthday. She has always looked confident on stage, but here she OD's on confidence. Plus, it contains many of her signature face scrunches, and that head and eye move at 1:36 is simply amazing. I only remember her doing it one other time in a video, and that was when she was performing a song off her album "5".There are about three or four versions of this video and all are not good quality, but AIFC put out a version several years ago that seems less fuzzy than the others. Her personality while performing... is it even possible to practice this?
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02-19-2019, 09:53 PM
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Oh dear... Is it possible to practice the personality thing? Well, you kind of know my background... From the perspective of my "disciplines", yeps, it is, unfortunately, but "conditionally". The "Alizée" "personna/role" was a "concept" that was "mastercrafted" by a pair of "consummate experts" in their field, to fulfill a specific "function", and "address" a specific "niche" in the "Pop world". To start off with, she was probably totally "prompted" and "coached", in "all" and "every" aspect of this "role", but then after quite a while, she made the whole "thing" more 'hers", and then we see more of something approaching the "real" Alizée. So, initially, this was a wonderfully 'conceived", wonderfully "packaged", wonderfully "executed", "concept" product, "animated" and given "life" by a French teenager called Alizée. Only later, when she was "established" was she allowed to develop it to where it was actually anything nearing her own personality. Then we get to see the real Alizée... I know it sounds a bit "weird" and "draconian", but that is "showbiz" for you. Nothing about it is "real"... Edit: The "manufactured role" thing can be actually quite "scary"... I had a colleague, who was a very "specialized" psychologist, and, after "profiling" you, she could be "anyone" female, that she "had" to be. Now, I will admit, she WAS a "Spook"... After that profile, this "girl" knew "exactly", "exquisitely", "where you lived", and you were left "utterly defenseless", for she knew EXACTLY what you wanted, needed and required. To a "T". We were very good "friends", and "dated" for a while, and we had this "game" going... It was called "Seduce me", and "maaaannn, that were fun", it really was. It was a case of "grab a Beer and some Chips", and wait and see what was going to "happen next". Now, it never worked on me, for I was looking for it, (yeah, right, we'll say that), but she could be any one of say a hundred different personas, every one of them "appealing" in some aspect, some of them downright damn "Kryptonite", that would leave you "in a sweat" and with a "very dry mouth". She was a consummate artiste, "of the first water". The best. A great friend, and a "stunningly good" tutor. Hard to date someone when you don't really know who the hell they really are, or are not... That sort of knocked the "shiny" off of the whole thing, and was effectively the "kiss of death" for that relationship. Last edited by RedRafe; 02-19-2019 at 09:53 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doubleposts
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02-20-2019, 03:07 AM
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Would it be fairly simple, as in the case of many celebrities? Or would it prove to be extraordinarily difficult? Its an interesting question. Last edited by Mr Coucou; 02-20-2019 at 05:24 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doubleposts
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