[Official] Alizée's Facebook

[Jake04]

They're all in the millions which is understandable since all are americans. Alizee's numbers nonetheless is remarkable not only because she's a foreigner but because she's not very active at all. Compared to other french singers like Jenifer, Nolwenn, Zaz and others who just held a series of concerts or released an album, Alizee's doing great.

[ALS]

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777

Does anyone have any numbers for U.S. singers like Madonna, Beyonce, Lady Gaga?

Madonna 6,271,681
Beyonce 28,345,857
Lady Gaga 43,962,428
Britney Spears 14,492,089

BTW Britney Spears is performing at Palais Omnisport de Bercy Paris on Oct 6th and at Le Galaxie Amnéville, France on Oct 5th. Via her Facebook Page.

[Scruffydog777]

[QUOTE=Jake04;209433]I'm quoting myself here. I just want to "update" the numbers above:
Alizee = 300,350 (+45,000 in 4 months)
Jenifer = 86,300 (+14,000)
Amel = 162,000 (+63,000)
Nolwenn= 43,000 (+7,000)
Natasha= 2,200 (-9,000) I might have looked at her community page which has now 11,000 likes.
Claire = 7,900 (+900)
Mylene= 342,500 (+26,000)

Originally Posted by ALS

Madonna 6,271,681
Beyonce 28,345,857
Lady Gaga 43,962,428
Britney Spears 14,492,089

The numbers just don't seem to make sense. Given the population of the U.S. is about 5 times that of France, why is there such a wide disparity? If you add up all the followers of the French singers, including Alizee, it doesn't add up to a million where Lady Gaga has over 43 million herself. I guess the majority of it is because English is spoken in many more countries than French.

But I think a lot of it might have to do with differences in our culture. In France, with a population of over 60 million, you'd think the French singers listed would have a lot more followers. Are they not as technologicly ahead as we are with our ipads and iphones and tweets and so on, or is it they're just not into things such as Facebook?

[ALS]

Remember who was number 1 with the French FHM magazine poll on hot women?

Megan Fox
Alizée number two

FHM magazine.fr/

It's just that English singers have a major advantage over singers that only perform singing only in their non English native language.

The German band the Scorpions would never have made it big had they only performed singing in German.

Alizée's market is limited to probably less than 250 million possible fans while an artist that performs in English has a market of one to two billion or more possible fans. Remember most non English speaking people around the world take English in school as a second language.

[Jake04]

I agree. A lot of non-speaking countries are quite familiar with the english language, thanks mainly to Hollywood. Unfortunately for French singers, their markets are mostly limited to french-speaking countries such as Canada, Belgium, Switzerland, etc. There are few exceptions of course such as Alizee and K-Pop (which is very popular in Japan even though their language is dfferent).

[Taxi Driver Aaron]

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777

...I think a lot of it might have to do with differences in our culture. In France, with a population of over 60 million, you'd think the French singers listed would have a lot more followers. Are they not as technologicly ahead as we are with our ipads and iphones and tweets and so on, or is it they're just not into things such as Facebook?

If you think about it, Mylène Farmer is one of most successful musicians in France and she's not doing so well herself compared to American's; and she is a French Canadian musician. So I don't think culture has too much to do with it.

I believe that part of the reason, not all, but at least some of the reason, is the label company for a lack of networking, promoting, control and expansion of their successful artists. In this case Polydor Records.

Take Rihanna for an example... Rihanna grew up on the tiny island, Barbados, and was discovered by Evan Rogers, an American song writer that brought her over to America at age 16. She auditioned for Jay-Z to get signed to Def Jam Records and became famous when she got promoted by the record label and became a house-hold name across many nations. She went from a different culture, a different country, and a no-name to being famous.

I predict that Alizée will get more promotion and recognition through Jive Epic ... That is the record label of music producer, Clive Davis, who is known for bringing in new talent as no names and making them well known.. such as Alicia Keys.

Anyway.. as I said, I think that the record label is, at least, part of the reason.

Edit:

Originally Posted by ALS

The German band the Scorpions would never have made it big had they only performed singing in German.

Alizée's market is limited to probably less than 250 million possible fans while an artist that performs in English has a market of one to two billion or more possible fans. Remember most non English speaking people around the world take English in school as a second language.

I respectfully disagree...

I believe it is a promoting and networking issue and America and the UK have the advantage over other countries in networking and promoting throughout the rest of the world.

The English-speaking community is becoming more of a diverse world with diverse cultures. If Alizee were to perform a concert at the Paris Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, singing in French, she would do just as well as if she were to show up and sing in English... In either case, her name would get out and she would gain more fans simply by performing in Las Vegas.... hell, if blue man group and bang on drums for an hour and sustain a captive audience, I am pretty sure a talented French musician would to quite well! I mean, heck, Terry Fader went from being a no name to obtaining 10-year contract singing through puppets after America got to know him... need I say more? I believe promotion and networking is important.. getting the name out... the talent takes care of itself.

If language was an issue then China would have more well known people than any other country and everyone would be trying to learn Mandarin because they have a market that is about the same size of the world's English speakers. In fact, it is actually Mandarin speakers that have more than a billion native speakers compared to English which still has less than 350 million.... you'd think a talented native singer in China would be be an instant star.

In any event.. the world is a really big place... with that said, I'm pretty sure there are still millions of people who have never heard of Lady Gaga, Modonna, and even Michael Jackson or Elvis Presley.... which again, is the reason I believe that networking is essential...

If a record label promoted Alizee the same way that religion promotes their beliefs, Alizée, or anyone for that matter, could be more successful than that of Michael Jackson based on sure popularity alone.

[WhiteFeather]

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777

But I think a lot of it might have to do with differences in our culture. In France, with a population of over 60 million, you'd think the French singers listed would have a lot more followers. Are they not as technologicly ahead as we are with our ipads and iphones and tweets and so on, or is it they're just not into things such as Facebook?

I don't think it is a matter of technology. I believe that, unfortunately, they just don't care about her as much as they did in the past (as shown by her sales on the last two albums). Had Facebook been around in 2000, I'm sure she would have way more "likes".

[Jake04]

We know that Alizee herself owns several apple products.


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[User22]

Alizée has such class, and great taste in products...

RIP Steve

[Taxi Driver Aaron]

yeah... Alizée has good taste... in fact, Alizée has good everything. When god made Alizée he was showing off!!!!!