Alizee's Career - what went wrong?

[Ali]

Let's face it, I talked to someone from France while in College after Psych. came out and he indicated that she is not popular in France anymore (if at all). I think she got a descent amount of promotion for her Psych album, even heard the promotions about her album when listening to NRJ. With her last album not so much.

Frankly, I thought her Psych album was okay and her last album I disliked. I think the cause of her decline was because of her collaboration with Jeremy and her new set of musicians.

I think her biggest mistake was hooking up with Jeremy (music wise) and her then set of musicians. I would love to see LB get back and assist her b\c I think he knows how to make great music that are hits but that is only a pipe dream. I just hope that her new album is a hit and is a much bigger success than Psych and her last one. If not I think her music career will be slowly going on the way side.

Oh well...at least we will have great memories of her from her heydays. (sighs)

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by lefty12357

Each album Alizée put out sold less than the previous one. It has been a downward trajectory since the first album. MF/LB, Alizée and “Moi, Lolita” converged at one point in time to create the perfect storm. Such things can’t be predetermined with any assurance nor easily repeated. Alizée was very fortunate to be a part of something like “Moi, Lolita” that became so big. But many, many artists see their popularity fall off after an initial big success. That’s the nature of the industry she is in. Even if Alizée did everything that everybody believes to be the right things to do, she may still have lost popularity and sales.

Alizée’s long break, getting married, becoming a mother, leaving MF/LB, lack of a solid promotion for the last 2 albums, canceled concerts, fired managers and a host of other smaller details are also play some part in it. Add to all this that much of France had forgotten about her and didn’t seem interested in hearing from her again. And how many French people got a chance to hear songs from her last 2 albums? The radio stations gave her little to no airtime. So she has also had to deal with a mindset that sees her as a has-been. And during the whole time, the record industry had been slipping as a whole. It is a complex set of circumstances over a decade of time that have determined Alizée's current situation.

Personally, I like Psych and in my opinion PLP is one of the best songs Alizée ever did. But how many people in France ever got to hear it? And it’s really easy with hindsight to say she should have done this or that at a particular juncture, but she and her team didn’t have the luxury of knowing the future.

If the stars align for her and she ends up with the right team, the right songs and arrangements, the right promo and a receptive audience, she can have success again. But that’s a lot of “ifs”. The question in my mind is, how much does she really want success and how much work is she willing to do for it? In the end, I guess I would call Alizée a success if she meets or exceeds the goals she has set for herself. But her idea of success may not meet the threshold of what the average person considers a success for a career in music. Let's just hope it meets the expectations of her record company.

Very good post Lefty, probably the best and most peaceful résumé of what happened in past 12 years.

[Bigdan]

what went wrong ?


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[Taxi Driver Aaron]

Originally Posted by Rev

What thread?

The thread that I'm ignoring.

[mzracing76]

I do believe this, when she was with MF-LB, she was playing a roll. You can see (could see it) within her body language, appearance, and behavior. When really reasearch her past, present, future - you can really tell she is a very shy, quiet, low profile person. Exactly what I have to love about her. She didnt take up music/singing until a late age of 16-20, while performing other interests such as dancing. I look at Alizee as a very well raised kid turned adult, good grades in school, and a person who sang as a hobby and less of for a career. I truely believe she got her degree in Information Technolgy cause she wants a career in that field, and that the music career is a offshoot off that. So, she does not need the Music, Albums, Clout thats goes with being a pop star.

Alizee is most definately the real deal when you her life in total perspective. I love her the way she is, with all her tattoos, and the way she present herself.

Thanks,
MZ

[ALS]

Originally Posted by Ali

I think her biggest mistake was hooking up with Jeremy (music wise) and her then set of musicians.

BINGO we have a winner. Also getting married on a whim at the top of your popularity does help either. Her fans were not happy with her choice of a husband.

This also applies to Music,

Hire a teenage while "he" still knows everything.

[Vike]

I think that the lawsuit that Alizee and Jeremy won against the magazine that invaded their privacy got a big reaction from the French press. They blackballed her ever since. Then there are all the other reasons covered fairly well in these discussions.

If the fans want to know the facts, why don't they create a fund to hire a couple of good investigators to answer a few specific questions that people are guessing at. It might eliminate some of the crazy ideas that are floating around and set the record straight.

[SpanishFan]

No offence, but this is getting a little bit silly... Blaming Jeremy, MF...
Come on, it is a bit lame... Amy Winehouse was doing alcohol, drugs, tattoos and "husband fighting" 24/7, and she was putting music on the shelves...
Michael Jackson was singing like an angel while his father...well...
Freddy Mercury writing music while he was dying...
Not trying to compare her to great artists to make her look small, I just think that when a musician has personal problems, they don't go into a hiatus... they normally make more music and write about that..

So the only thing to blame is her ambition. She put her musical career at least in third position after her daughter and after her marriage. If she had the desire, music would be first thing in her life at the time. She did not feel her career was the most or even the second more important thing back then, and that is very fair and I can understand it, but is was her choice.

[vivealizee]

Agreed.
Her personal problems we know or think to see behind the surface aren't extraordinary, nothing which breaks you.

She is just a typical short time pop artist, there are soooo many of them!

I wouldn't blame MF, because without her she wouldn't have any music career, still MF is a bitch for the lyrics and the dresses she chooses for a 16-year-old, imho.
And jeremy? They loved each other truly I believe and many people divorce and get over it and I don't think he had bad musical influence on her either. She wasn't his savage.

[Karlalizee]

While visiting realitives in Venezuela, I was approached by a modeling agency that offered me a job posing for their website. I told them I didn't want to go totally nude or even topless so I posed in bikinis, lingerie and underwear. The closest I came to topless was handbras (top off but covered with my hands). The job paid well until I was told by the owners that subscriptions were slipping and the only way I could boost sales was to pose nude. When I refused, they suggested I least go topless and I reluctantly agreed. The website owners kept pushing me into go totally nude and I kept refusing. They finally fired me, to which I was thankful since I signed a contract and I was finally freed from them. They still own the website and they still have me as 18 years old. lol

The smartest thing I did was to hire an accountant to handle my money at the beginning of my career. Through investments and CD accounts, I was able to save quite a bit of money. I bought a beauty salon, an apartment complex in Caracas and signed a modeling contract with DarienX. They do shoots for fashion modeling, bikini.com and runway modeling. As I look back, my only regret was to go topless. I am not ashamed of my body but feel I did what I had to do.

Like Alizee, I made decisions. Some good some bad. I went from being one of the most recognized adult website models to a face in the crowd. But that was my choice. I knew at the very beginning that my modeling career would not last so, instead of fighting it, I prepared for it. Today I stay busy between my businesses and modeling. I still fly back home to Texas every chance I get to see freinds and family. I like my life!