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[garçoncanadien]

yes i agree with espire. baiser had an innocent meaning back in the day (as in 1700s) but now don't say it on the street unless you know the other person veerryyyy well

[Roman]

Originally Posted by garçoncanadien

yes i agree with espire. baiser had an innocent meaning back in the day (as in 1700s) but now don't say it on the street unless you know the other person veerryyyy well

Oh, man, I just know I'm gonna screw that up one of these days.

[CFHollister]

Originally Posted by garçoncanadien

yes i agree with espire. baiser had an innocent meaning back in the day (as in 1700s) but now don't say it on the street unless you know the other person veerryyyy well

But I can't help but be reminded of this line:
"Mais las baisers d'Alizée sont de vraies gourmandises"
(I truer sentence may never have ben spoken... sung... whatever.)

So is this kind of usage something that should be treated so carefully?

[LiquidC]

Originally Posted by CFHollister

But I can't help but be reminded of this line:
"Mais les baisers d'Alizée sont de vraies gourmandises"
(I truer sentence may never have ben spoken... sung... whatever.)

So is this kind of usage something that should be treated so carefully?

Its means "but Alizée's kisses are real candy"

If you try to replace it by its nasty meanining it would sound something like this:
"But Alizée's f**ks are real candy" wich as you can see makes no sense so there's no danger in puting it in this phrase.

edit:
"Un baiser" is a kiss, so its a noun like a city, a person or a book.
Baiser is a verb wich is used as f**k.

You can see here that if you put "les" or "un" infront of baiser it becomes a noun making it take the meaning of kiss.

[fsquared]

Originally Posted by LiquidC

Its means "but Alizée's kisses are real candy"

If you try to replace it by its nasty meanining it would sound something like this:
"But Alizée's f**ks are real candy" wich as you can see makes no sense so there's no danger in puting it in this phrase.

I'm of course not a native speaker, but my impression was that 1. gourmandises were not quite "candy" but rather "delicacies that one could over-indulge in", which could presumably apply to bother meanings, and 2. gourmandises is actually also French slang for "fellatio", in which case it could sound really quite sexual.

EDIT: Wow, off-topic again! Whoo hoo.

Originally Posted by espire

When using kiss as a verb, embrasser is usually the better choice. A more friendly or loving kiss (rather than a sexual one) can be a bisou.

You see "gros bisous" a lot on the MySpace comments that fly around.

[LiquidC]

Originally Posted by fsquared

I'm of course not a native speaker, but my impression was that 1. gourmandises were not quite "candy" but rather "delicacies that one could over-indulge in", which could presumably apply to bother meanings, and 2. gourmandises is actually also French slang for "fellatio", in which case it could sound really quite sexual.

Yeah I know its not candy I just couldn't find the right word for it.

I don't know if gourmandise is slang for fellatio, maybe its just used like this in France but I never heard this in Quebec.

[Roman]

Well, thanks for the info people, but on that song I'm back to thinking it's another one of those situations where if you want to make it out to be something sexual it's easy to do, but that's kind of on you. Ok, I don't just mean that. Obviously the video/song is sexual, but I mean to take that particular meaning. There's a difference between saying that one could use a word in a particular way and that being the "normal" usage of the word. If I say I am going to do somebody, it could mean have sex with them. If I'm in an episode of the Sopranos, it probably means I'm going to kill them. It is probably clear to everyone what I'm talking about in the context, unlike the song Gourmandises which is obviously not clearly talking about anything other than just kisses. But, you know Mylène, she certainly has double meanings in a lot of lyrics, but also can't be accused of being vulgar without argument; so...

[Edcognito]

Heh, I understand how this conversation got here, but I think the only thing thats important is this:

"Mais les baisers d'Alizée sont de vraies gourmandises"

Overindulged or not...


Ed

[garçoncanadien]

lets put it this way:
"les baisers d'Alizée sont de vraies gourmandises"
is a sentence that evokes some pretty hot temptations for francophones ... i will leave it at that

[DirtyACE]

Originally Posted by garçoncanadien

lets put it this way:
"les baisers d'Alizée sont de vraies gourmandises"
is a sentence that evokes some pretty hot temptations for francophones ... i will leave it at that

Not only in franchophones

I will leave it at that