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Old 02-14-2021, 06:08 PM
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Alizee sure does know how to fancy up a Christmas meal, doesn't she?
Her cooking skills have always amazed me. Not because she seems really good at that but because she looks so "normal"; it's as looking at a random woman doing ordinary things. Her normality highlights her uniqueness, if that makes sense.
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Old 02-15-2021, 11:54 AM
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Her cooking skills have always amazed me. Not because she seems really good at that but because she looks so "normal"; it's as looking at a random woman doing ordinary things. Her normality highlights her uniqueness, if that makes sense.
Yes, it makes sense. We have had a discussion on the forum in the past where if Mylene never watched that program and discovered Alizee, what would Alizee be doing today? She comes from a normal, middle-class family who probably had somewhat traditional values. She might have learned how to cook some basic things early in life. But she has taken her culinary skills to an advanced level as a celebrity, and I like that. It reminds me that she remains grounded.
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Old 02-15-2021, 02:24 PM
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We have had a discussion on the forum in the past where if Mylene never watched that program and discovered Alizee
I don’t know where that legend comes from that Mylene watched a TV show and discovered Alizee.
Probably because of bad translations. I heard the same thing somewhere and was of that opinion until I was working on translating some interviews.
In fact, Alizee heard about the casting and sent a video of her performance from "Graines de star"

http://youtu.be/WyZCaSj-qvU?t=174
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Old 02-16-2021, 12:28 AM
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I don’t know where that legend comes from that Mylene watched a TV show and discovered Alizee.
That comes from french Wiki.

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So trying to get this story straight;

I believe Mylene did discover Alizée while channel surfing.

Question is how did Alizée learn of the casting for ML?

From what I've seen, I'd have to think she found out about it when she was called by LB who invited her to send a disc? In the Grained de Star video, she said (Google translation) "I sent my model, then I went up.....".

One other question that might be a part of the puzzle is did Mylene see Alizée in the first GDS show that was televised or the second? I'm fairly certain the competition in Corsica wasn't televised.

So sending the disc was quickly followed by the visit to Paris where she auditioned and the rest is history.

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Old 02-16-2021, 10:50 AM
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I think this article is of interest. Here is a quote from it:

Q: "...To the point of, I believe, signing yourself up, last November, for the competition organized by the M6 show "Graines de stars"?
A: "Yes, that's it. Actually, my friends and I did it just for fun. Without thinking that we were going to be picked. I just wanted to try my luck only in the dance category, but my friend also signed me up for the list of singers, and that's where I was selected."


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ALIZEE: "I dream of having as much success as Mylène Farmer!"

You have to believe that certain good fairies hover longer over certain cradles. Alizée, in any case, is a very lucky young Corsican! She's barely 16, and already everything is smiling on her. The proof, her first single: "Moi... Lolita", written by Mylène Farmer and Laurent Boutonnat (234) is in the lead at the top. Not bad, huh?

Your single was released in the month of July and three weeks later, you're already on top... It was urgent that we get to know you. Tell us a little about who you are...
A: I was born in Ajaccio, in Corsica, on August 21, 1984, and I lived there with my parents and Johann, my ten-year-old brother. I still live there and I love this island...

I often wonder what people do to get into show business. It's such a closed profession... Are your parents artists?
A: Not at all! (smiles) Not them, nor anyone else in my family. My mom is a shopkeeper and my dad works in computers. No, my history is a combination of circumstances, of real luck.

How did it all begin?
A: When I was 5 years old, my parents signed me up for a modern dance class and, up until I recorded this disc, I dreamed of becoming a dance teacher. And then, because I'm extremely shy, when the singing and theater classes opened up in this same school, I signed up to give myself more confidence. For three years, on top of my studies (at the beginning of the year, I'll be in "première"), I followed this instruction and I liked it a lot.

To the point of, I believe, signing yourself up, last November, for the competition organized by the M6 show "Graines de stars"?
A: Yes, that's it. Actually, my friends and I did it just for fun. Without thinking that we were going to be picked. I just wanted to try my luck only in the dance category, but my friend also signed me up for the list of singers, and that's where I was selected.

Was it difficult?
A: No, not too difficult. But very very long. We were called at 5:00 in the afternoon and I went as the last one at 3:00 in the morning. I was really sleepy and I almost gave up to go find my bed as quickly as possible. It was my mom who told me: "As long as it takes, let's stay until the end."

It seems she did well...!
A: Yes, since I was selected to participate in the show in Paris. I had to sing in front of Patrick Bruel, whom I adore, and that wasn't easy...There, my shyness really hit me, but, he showed himself to be very kind and reassuring with me! (smiles)

Are you superstitious? Do you have any good-luck charms with you?
A: Oh! Yes I have lots! I'm never without the chain and pendant that my dance teacher gave me. I also have a subway ticket from New York and all sorts of bracelets.

When you learned that you had won, what did you feel?
A: I was crazy with joy, of course. And then, I thought my little life was going to go back to normal in Corsica.

But it didn't happen quite like that!
A: Friends of my parents who lived in Paris heard talk of an audition. A producer was looking for a young singer. I sent my photo spread and the cassette from Graines de stars. It was only when I arrived at the studio, where I had to do the audition, that I discovered that it was Laurent Boutonnat. I couldn't believe my eyes!

And how was your first meeting with Mylène Farmer? Is she as mysterious as people say?
A: No, not at all. She's someone very simple and very easy-going. Things went well right away between us.

It's the first time that this shock duo has written for someone else; do you know why they chose you?
A: I don't know, and I admit that I wouldn't dare ask them about it.

How would you introduce yourself to our readers who are discovering you today?
A: I would say that I love my little brother (who himself dreams of becoming a football player), the beach and the animals. I have a lot of them: cats, dogs, hamsters, goldfish, but now, we live in an apartment, and this wouldn't be a life for them. When I have time, I hurry and go shopping. And playing supermodel and trying a bunch of things in front of my mirror, I love that! On the other hand, I hate lies and hypocrisy.

In what state of mind do you find yourself now?
A: Frankly, I know that I have a huge amount of luck, but I haven't really realized what has happened to me. I'm living a true fairy tale. Even when someone asks for my autograph, I have trouble believing it's me that they're addressing. In any case, one thing's for sure: now, I only have one dream, to become a singer with a career as prestigious as Mylène's!

[Mini Infos]: In 1995, Alizée participated in a contest for AOM. This was a contest to color the drawing of an airplane. Her sketch was chosen and an airplane (a real one, this time) carried her name and colors. She also won a trip to the Maldives. Lucky girl, we say!
Alizée is her real name, chosen by her parents who loved windboarding, and therefore the wind...
She only has one secret: her family name that she prefers to keep quiet from the press.

Translated by Backinblack

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In this video, at the 3:07 mark explains it best


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Old 02-16-2021, 11:38 AM
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Question is how did Alizée learn of the casting for ML?
It doesn’t really matter as much how Mylene discovered Alizee but in the absence of other content it’s fun to explore.
I don’t know exactly in which interview Alizee said she heard from a friend in Paris about the contest and had nothing to send but recordings from the GDS so she sent them to that contest.

She also said that she did not know that it was LB and MF, which is very strange if they watched Alizee on television and asked her to send her materials or I was missing something.

I'll try to find that interview maybe Alex can understand more precisely what it's about.

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I found.
English CC has been added so you can watch.
The story begins at 3:30 in the video.


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There are too many inconsistencies in the official version.

Cnspiracy version: She is the daughter of Laurent and Mylene.

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I'll try to find that interview maybe Alex can understand more precisely what it's about.
I have friends who live in Paris and have heard of the producer. An anonymous producer who was looking for a performer. They convinced me to send the material. And since I didn't have any tapes, since I never recorded my singing, the only thing I could send was my performance at the Grained de Star. Later I found out that this producer was Laurent Boutonnat. When I met Laurent, I had no idea who he was. He showed me the song and told me that Mylene had written the lyrics.

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It doesn’t really matter as much how Mylene discovered Alizee but in the absence of other content it’s fun to explore.
I don’t know exactly in which interview Alizee said she heard from a friend in Paris about the contest and had nothing to send but recordings from the GDS so she sent them to that contest.

She also said that she did not know that it was LB and MF, which is very strange if they watched Alizee on television and asked her to send her materials or I was missing something.

I'll try to find that interview maybe Alex can understand more precisely what it's about.

Edit:

I found.
English CC has been added so you can watch.
The story begins at 3:30 in the video.

Hey joebanana:
I guess this is kind of obvious but when you add Croatian subtitles to a video, when someone clicks and switches the captions to English, it translates your subtitles to English? I'm not sure what you did with this. Looks like you embedded Croatian subtitles which I sometimes do.

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Old 02-16-2021, 10:01 PM
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Hey joebanana:
I guess this is kind of obvious but when you add Croatian subtitles to a video, when someone clicks and switches the captions to English, it translates your subtitles to English? I'm not sure what you did with this. Looks like you embedded Croatian subtitles which I sometimes do.
A lot of Croats speak English so no special subtitles are actually needed.
I embedded these subtitles into the video just for the extra sense of comfort while watching the video (The best example of this is swearing which always sounds more "juicy" in your natural language).
Later, when I uploaded the video, I changed my mind because it limits the possibility for most people who do not speak Croatian to watch the video and the only option I had was to upload English subtitles (Which are not mine) to YouTube.
There are now 3 possibilities

Watch the video with embedded Croatian subtitles.
Turn on English CC on YT (Not perfect but I think it's watchable).
Or if it's too distracting to watch with embedded croatian subtitles try to find another video on YT with English subtitles.
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