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Old 02-22-2012, 04:09 PM
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I guess we can't officially refer to Alizée as Mademoiselle Alizée anymore.

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Au revoir, Mademoiselle! France bans word for 'Miss' from official documents because it suggests a woman is 'available'

Term for 'maiden name' also ditched because of 'connotations of virginity'
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I think we can call Alizée as Mademoiselle Alizée until end of everything.

She's been mademoiselle and will be forever, even France decides to delete all of those titles..
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I guess women do not have any say so in this matter!
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I guess women do not have any say so in this matter!
That's exactly who had a say in the matter.

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The nationwide changes come after two towns, in Britanny and Normandy banned the term 'mademoiselle' two months ago after pressure from a local women's groups.
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Dare Feminism spokeswoman Julie Muret said: 'Contrary to popular belief, it is not flattering to tell a woman she's available, particularly in a professional context.
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Ms Bachelot said: 'It is an invasion of privacy to ask a woman to identify herself as single or married.

'We don't ask men to do the same thing. All we want is complete equality on how we treat the sexes on official government forms.'
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So it was the extreme feminists that had a say-so. I don't know how women do things in France, but somehow I feel that they may be poorly represented in this matter.
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I guess we can't officially refer to Alizée as Mademoiselle Alizée anymore.



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but only in "official" communication (banks, judgment,...) so in public its still ok... but still its stupid idea
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I don't have a problem with feminists when they are actually fighting for equality in countries where women are denied basic human rights. But when they nitpick over the most asinine issues, in countries where they are already treated like equals, that's when I have a problem.
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I don't have a problem with feminists when they are actually fighting for equality in countries where women are denied basic human rights. But when they nitpick over the most asinine issues, in countries where they are already treated like equals, that's when I have a problem.
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I don't have a problem with feminists when they are actually fighting for equality in countries where women are denied basic human rights. But when they nitpick over the most asinine issues, in countries where they are already treated like equals, that's when I have a problem.
Making a distinction between married and unmarried women on legal documents is an artifact from a time when women legally didn't have as many rights as men. That should be removed. Why do you have a problem with this? You're making it an issue. When someone suggests this should be taken off of legal documents, your response should be "yeah, take it off, IDGAF" not "this is a stupid idea."

Men and women might have the same legal rights, but there's isn't full social equality. If you think there's no more progress to be made then you're mistaken.

This issue is an example of that. Removing a simple checkbox from legal documents won't hurt anyone; it's in the interest of equality, and it will only serve to make some people feel better, yet you feel you have the right to say "No. Don't do it. You already have all the rights you deserve." …FOR NO REASON. No reason other than to preserve an antiquated tradition, or just to prevent them from getting what they want.

Why would you have a problem with this? Why? Talk about nitpicking over asinine issues. Something's going to change, it's not going to hurt anyone or affect YOU in any way whatsoever, so just deal with it.
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