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Old 06-14-2007, 10:51 AM
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i had no problems with your first post, it was pretty insightful actually. anyways welcome!
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:55 AM
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It would seem that some, for all good intentions, have their own idea of what life should be for Alizée and to differ outside of that perfectly framed picture is, somehow, to impart her harm..
We faithful, each in his or her own way, have created the Alizée we believe to exist. Some of what we create is based on, and to a certain extent substantiated by, what we see and hear of Alizée. To that extent, our creation is aligned with truth...the true Alizée. However, there can be no doubt some (in many cases, most) of our creation is not the true reality, although we go through life believing otherwise. We build a comforting vision of our Lili....it makes us feel good. Feel good about Alizée. But most importantly, and this is denied by many, feel good about ourselves.

As such, our "good intentions" are not tailored to our concern that a different reality might somehow impart her harm, but are framed in a manner to shield our vision of Lili from being shattered by a reality that does not conform to that vision.

In a nutshell, my vision of Alizée is comforting to me. I have no illusions that the reality will shatter some (or many) of those visions. Even with that knowledge, I prefer to live in the comfort of my illusion (some might call it fantasy) than to face the reality. Or, given I ever get a chance to face reality, at least temper it to the point of it being bearable when it smacks me in the face.
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Old 06-14-2007, 03:45 PM
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Than you, Heyamigo. And thank you everyone. You all are good posters

To Ogre:

Your statements make my point. I would go on to say that fantasy is fair exchange for creating a celebrity of someone, especially those who rise to the magnitude that she has. And if we can all feel good about mutual exchage, that is a good thing. As far as universal energy is concerned, I am not sure if it is fair to limit them there, however.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:04 PM
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My prediction for Alizée.


First post. And It is sure to be a fire starter.


I may not be as passionate a fan as many of you, because I have just discovered Alizée this year, even though I have heard her music long before and enjoyed it, it was a case of not knowing who the artist was.

She is quite mesmerizing, to be sure, with a mystical alure. The karmic vibrations that I have picked up from her seem to be correct from what I have briefly learned. I knew she was intently ready for marriage and a commitment even before I knew that she was married. I knew that that she would first have a female child even before I knew she had a child. The culmination of who she was for a long time. A very sacred and nurtured part of her inner being.

I knew that she was a very passionate, jealous, possessive, and demanding person who demands devotion and attentiveness in a mate before I saw her interviewed on her families boat describing herself exactly that way. It takes guts to put yourself in a, somewhat, dubious light. But she is straight forward and speaks her true mind and she makes no apologies for this. No one has told me....I just knew.

By now you are likely saying that this guy ( myself ) must be slightly off center (if not more so) ..... LOL . All I can tell you is ... I pick up vibes, sometimes when I least expect them, and if the opportunity to verify these vibes present themselves to me ... I often discover that they are correct. I have frightened many people with this, telling them things about themselves at random. Some told me that I was not even remotely close in revealing things about them, only to return later to confess that I was "dead on".

So, this is the premise for my prediction. A random energy that I don't quite understand myself, but has proven in, my experiences, to have surprising depth in various ways. So here it is, the prediction....

Alizée's album will have mixed results, though her celebrity will fair well because of her loving fan base. The album has been a struggle to merge the old with the new, the past with the present, if you will. And that is not just choice in music style, but also redefining herself as an individual (personally speaking) and an entertainer (theatrically speaking).

This, of course, is to be expected after marriage, motherhood and time off, just not necessarily so easy on a public pedestal. Each thing has its own set of nuances for her. Emotionally speaking, ( in regards to personal rewards) in light of pressure and expectations, her re-emergence will prove to be a slightly up and down experience for her , but she will not unravel.

Now The big part. Alizée is a devotedly passionate and loving partner by her very nature, but her marriage will be short lived, no more than two or three years more. Alizée, however, will be resolved and unshaken. The parting will be an amicable one with no regrets on either side to the marriage or the parting of mutual ways. A little sadness is to be expected, but they will move on with gusto, not reckless abandon, and they will remain friends and share involvement in their daughters life.

Alizée will go through some spiritual changes and by the time she is married again, no more than three to four years later, it will be for keeps. She will have found her personal destiny. With her natural grit, she will align herself securely to it in clarity and inner resolve. Inside, she is aware of her personal evolution. These are the spiritual stirrings of her inner self which speak to every inch of her being. They speak to her like a secret friend. They have been with her all her life, though she has only hinted to this. When she is quiet or seemingly musing she is, most likely, in session with them. They give her harmony and balance.


Hints of all these things are already in motion behind the scenes, but, as you know, time

will have to tell its own story.


That's it. Let the flood gates open !!

i laughed.
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Old 06-14-2007, 09:38 PM
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I would go on to say that fantasy is fair exchange for creating a celebrity of someone, especially those who rise to the magnitude that she has.
Yep, my only fear is Alizée will get stupid and go "political". I've lost respect for so many entertainers over the past few years....entertainers that I once really respected and enjoyed. They sell out for a cause they know little or nothing about to score political points....or whatever. And the bubble is busted. I still listen to a few, but the magic is gone.

A beautiful, cultured, loving, caring Alizée is magic. A political activist Alizée will be just another in a long line of talented singers who trade their soul for political purposes....the magic is lost.
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:11 PM
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I seriously doubt she's going to become a political activist. She just doesn't have that gene of stupidity that those such as the Dixie Chicks have. She's gonna return and blow our minds. That's her job.

In other news, 150 posts! Sorry Jess, beat you
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We faithful, each in his or her own way, have created the Alizée we believe to exist. Some of what we create is based on, and to a certain extent substantiated by, what we see and hear of Alizée. To that extent, our creation is aligned with truth...the true Alizée. However, there can be no doubt some (in many cases, most) of our creation is not the true reality, although we go through life believing otherwise. We build a comforting vision of our Lili....it makes us feel good. Feel good about Alizée. But most importantly, and this is denied by many, feel good about ourselves.

As such, our "good intentions" are not tailored to our concern that a different reality might somehow impart her harm, but are framed in a manner to shield our vision of Lili from being shattered by a reality that does not conform to that vision.

In a nutshell, my vision of Alizée is comforting to me. I have no illusions that the reality will shatter some (or many) of those visions. Even with that knowledge, I prefer to live in the comfort of my illusion (some might call it fantasy) than to face the reality. Or, given I ever get a chance to face reality, at least temper it to the point of it being bearable when it smacks me in the face.
You know, there is a lot of things that I would like to say about this thread, but I will limit myself to say that I agree with Ogre right here. I personally do not wish to hear anything negative about Alizée, true or false. That is why I avoid other forums or chats like in google or youtube. This is my happy place..... Obviously I have no authority here, so this is just my opinion....
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:51 PM
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Oh, for crying out loud, folks.

She can't get a divorce because that would make her less than perfect. She can't be politically active because she might take positions you disagree with.

Cut the girl some slack, would you? She's a real person, not something out of a fairy tale. A good person, in my opinion, smart, talented, kind-hearted . . . but a real person. Real people don't always make perfect choices and sometimes they have to correct them. Real people, and the citizens of republics, hold political positions and express them by voting and political activism. It's not just absurd to expect Alizée to be an exception to that, it's unfair.

And I say that knowing nothing about where her politics lie. For all I know, if we were friends we might argue heatedly. But that's cool. I have friends like that. We're still friends, even though they vote wrong.

She doesn't need to be put on some kind of artificial pedestal, because she's amazing enough flaws and all.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:17 PM
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Well said, Deepwaters. How could we deny Alizée her rights and freedom of speech, those same rights that every one of us has and holds dear and would never give up?

I doubt she will be overtly political when she returns, but she has the right if she so chooses.
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:00 AM
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I seriously doubt that you guys are on the same page..... No one here is seriously saying that Alizée is divine or inhuman. Or seriously denying her the right to vote, or voice her opinion. Even when someone here might say she is perfect, they don't actually mean it literally. Unless of course we have a demented fanatic Alizée stalker in our forum. It is an expression of our love and respect to her, and yes we jokingly say a lot of stupid things, but. Anyone who thinks that the people expressing these thoughts are seriously placing her on some kind of artificial pedestal is an idiot (for not understanding).
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