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Old 11-18-2012, 04:25 PM
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I think it would be amazing if Alizée did a cover of this.. she might be an angel to many of us but she's still human after all.
This is another aspect of fandomness that I'm dealing with. Yes, she's a human like everyone else. I know that, and I try to remember that. But sometimes (often) when I'm not paying attention I find that I forget. I'm having trouble coming up with a description for it. I suppose it's just that phenomenon that can happen when a celebrity affects a person. And it's new to me. It's somewhat ironic, because I've given more than one friend a hard time when they do similar things. I've always thought I had an open mind but I keep finding how much of what people do and think depends on viewpoints and experiences. In fact, I've re-evaluated so many conclusions about the world and life "because" of Alizée. I'd better stop now before this gets any weirder.
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This is another aspect of fandomness that I'm dealing with. Yes, she's a human like everyone else. I know that, and I try to remember that. But sometimes (often) when I'm not paying attention I find that I forget. I'm having trouble coming up with a description for it. I suppose it's just that phenomenon that can happen when a celebrity affects a person. And it's new to me. It's somewhat ironic, because I've given more than one friend a hard time when they do similar things. I've always thought I had an open mind but I keep finding how much of what people do and think depends on viewpoints and experiences. In fact, I've re-evaluated so many conclusions about the world and life "because" of Alizée. I'd better stop now before this gets any weirder.
One tip, don't let yourself get dragged in too deep. It could cause implications in your future life. Just keep it in moderation, as a hobby.

If you do feel you're getting dragged in too deep, delete everything (or store it on a harddrive, and place it somewhere out of sight, if you think deleting the harddrive is too severe) that is related to Alizée.

The person who came up with "Out of sight, out of mind" has a good point.

PS: The first few weeks (maybe even months) might be hard, but it will help you in the long run.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:20 PM
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One tip, don't let yourself get dragged in too deep. It could cause implications in your future life. Just keep it in moderation, as a hobby.
Ooops, Well, once again I jumbled things up and was vague in a post. Sometimes while I'm driving or busy at work I'll think up a wonderful post that flows and is concise, then when I get some time to log in to the forum I can't recreate the brilliance. Many times I don't try but I was inspired today by Un-rêve's post.

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I suppose it's just that phenomenon that can happen when a celebrity affects a person. ... It's somewhat ironic, because I've given more than one friend a hard time when they do similar things.
And was thinking about something like how professional sports players become legends and heros and such, and how fans talk of their favorite teams as 'us' and 'we'. The athlete becomes more that just a human to some. I'm not into any kind of sports so when people around me discuss recent games and almost take things personally I'd give them a hard time. But I understand that now and have become (slightly) more sympathetic.

I've got this trait where I tend to over analyze and if I'm not talking I'm thinking. And when I am talking I don't think. My boss heard the term once 'analysis paralysis' and now he applies it to me often. It's ok, that's what happens. Without getting into too many details, for years I've wasted a lot of free time fighting myself. I've yet to figure out how my discovery of Alizée nearly seven months ago put an immediate end to that, and in fact I've stopped 'thinking' about that. But all that stopped and I'm perfectly fine being who I am, who I've always been, and I'm grateful to her for that. Something for which she did nothing more than just be herself.

I decided I needed to pay her back so I bought a copy of each of the albums, and En Concert CD and the DVD, and I've got most of the Les Enfoires DVDs from the years she participated. I try to keep active on the forum to keep topics going so we don't forget her. And I try to keep an open mind about the things she does and wish her the best. That's all. Really, that's it.

And I worry that when it ends (all of my distractions always end) things will go back to the old ways for me so I'm trying to keep all this relevant and interesting to hold off the inevitable. When I first joined here more than one person said things like 'enjoy your time here' and I realize that many people have come and gone before me.

I probably should have just edited my earlier post and left all this out. But I was envisioning the AAm intervention team coordinating behind the scenes!

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Ooops, Well, once again I jumbled things up and was vague in a post. Sometimes while I'm driving or busy at work I'll think up a wonderful post that flows and is concise, then when I get some time to log in to the forum I can't recreate the brilliance. Many times I don't try but I was inspired today by Un-rêve's post.

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It's just a general tip I like to give people, it's not directed towards you personally
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The hardest part of being her fan is getting disappointed very often in these last years, crying over cancelled concerts and missed autograph sessions (because your mother told you quite angrily that she would prefer that you'd spend your holiday with her instead of doing another road trip to France and later your realise that this was one of the worst decisions in your life) and end up heartbroken and you still love her so much that even if it wasn't a easy life for Alizée fans since the cancelled Grand Rex concert you would never let her down because she made your life so much better and because of her you met great people and did trips to France you never even thought you would ever do. And what ever is going to happen and even if you sometimes think "Come on Alizée sort your stuff out you can do better" you'd always get angry if someone says "Why don't you just stop being her fan" because people just don't understand.

I kinda lost track what I wanted to say but I'll post it anyway. Bye.
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It's just a general tip I like to give people, it's not directed towards you personally
And a fine tip it is!

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I kinda lost track what I wanted to say but I'll post it anyway. Bye.
That happens to me all the time. Sometimes I just log out and don't even post what I had planned to.

I think that many aspects of being a fan can be very personal things, and vary greatly from one fan to another. One thing that Jenny's post reminds me of is something I had thought about once. Since I just recently discovered Alizée I missed out on years of the good times, and some of the not always so good times. But then again I got four albums, all the videos on Youtube, and the new single all at one time. I never had to wait for delayed releases (I'm waiting now though!) or any of the frustrations that so many other fans have had to deal with. I think I'd have rather known about her long ago and been able to enjoy the gift I got from her instead of being overloaded all at once and arriving late. But the past is over. The future is promising. Enough for now...
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:13 AM
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And a fine tip it is!

That happens to me all the time. Sometimes I just log out and don't even post what I had planned to.
That happens to me so often, its disturbing... sometimes I catch myself mulling various things around in my head, mostly about what kind of a fan of Alizée I´ve become and how this fandomness is affecting my life, but when I come around to post such stuff (which is often totally incomprehensible to everyone but me) online, I find myself thinking about how nobody will understand me or how I don`t want my personal thoughts to be posted online, and then I end up posting nothing...

The problem with this is the fact that in my real life, I have nobody to share my thoughts on Alizée with, as everyone who knows about her existence thinks of her only as a slut (because of the JEAM dance) or doesn`t understand what I find so attractive in her, but when I want to explain myself I end up being rejected (they say that I think too much and then walk away). In the end, I keep everything to myself, which is the worst possible thing to do, as emotions and thoughts just pile up ...

I think I would`ve been totally happy if I knew some other (real) Alizée fans outside forums (in real life), but since this is not the case, I am forced to be alone and ignored in this aspect of my life... Which is a pity, when I think about how much influence Alizée (with MF and LB) had on my personal development (since I first heard ML back in 2001, when I was only 10 years old) and how I have derived great things I from my understanding of Alizée (some of which I posted on AF, but might consider reposting it also here (on AAm) should the opportunity arise).

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I think that many aspects of being a fan can be very personal things, and vary greatly from one fan to another. One thing that Jenny's post reminds me of is something I had thought about once. Since I just recently discovered Alizée I missed out on years of the good times, and some of the not always so good times. But then again I got four albums, all the videos on Youtube, and the new single all at one time. I never had to wait for delayed releases (I'm waiting now though!) or any of the frustrations that so many other fans have had to deal with. I think I'd have rather known about her long ago and been able to enjoy the gift I got from her instead of being overloaded all at once and arriving late. But the past is over. The future is promising. Enough for now...
Ray4AJ, my experience and thoughts totally match what you have written -> copy&paste!
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