Anthony's Analyses of Alizée's songs

[Deepwaters]

I wouldn't put it that way, Espire. It's not necessary to decide between the two, because both are true. On one level, the song is about a bubble bath with a goldfish. On another, it's about masturbating in the bath. On both levels, it's about creating a pleasant environment and insulating oneself from troubles.

The dance is the same. It has the suggestive hand movements, including some I didn't mention like the ones where she seems to be stroking her body all over, but if you look at the same movements a different way, the suggestion is of fish fin movement, and in the bridge portion you can see her hands forming a fish tail.

[espire]

That's exactly what I meant, but I didn't say it right. I apologize. What I mean is that there are two distinct extreme interpretations, and a person has to choose where between the two, choosing how close to each one they are.

[lefty12357]

I should have also mentioned in my post that one should read aFrenchie's comments later on in the thread I referenced. It clears up a few things that one might not know having not lived in France:

aFrenchie's comments:

There's a children song in France that NOT ONE French child has missed and that is called "Colchiques dans les prés" ("Autumn crocus in the meadows"). Farmer obviously uses that song as a reference (she would hate that old tune now? ) and that would give in English: "In the meadows, (I'm fed up with) Autumn crocus"! Eh? why that when you don't know the old children song?

Quickly: "2 balles" has nothing to do with bullets, but your "worthless" idea is good though (see in the link above about this expression)

It was also pointed out that the French never use "2 balles" in reference to the male genitalia as did the person doing this analysis.

[Zack -Alizee Lover-]

Originally Posted by espire

Wow, Alizée really does have her hands way closer on Eurobest! Any closer, and they'd be in her pants! Mystery solved.

She was doing that because she knew Jérémy was watching her

Please, accept ♪JEAM♪ for what it is,a cool song and not some kind of perv story.

[kdn]

Originally Posted by Zack -Alizee Lover-

accept ♪JEAM♪ for what it is,a cool song

I agree with Zack. And what it is is depend on the audience.

My question is How old are the song's target audience? If they are 13-14 yrs old kids, then the (extreme) analysis of JEAM is false and the guy who wrote it is a sick bastard.



BTW, thanks garcon for clear it out for Anthony.

[Deepwaters]

Originally Posted by kdn

My question is How old are the song's target audience? If they are 13-14 yrs old kids, then the (extreme) analysis of JEAM is false and the guy who wrote it is a sick bastard.

How about if the target audience is BOTH 13-14 year olds, AND older, adult people? One meaning for the kids, another for the adults. In which case, neither interpretation is false, both are true.

I'm quite certain that's the case. (I'm also certain that plenty of 13-14 year olds can appreciate the adult version, too. Perhaps not 9-10 year olds.)

Let me ask this, though. Setting aside the question of whether it's an appropriate thing for preteens, what is there about the "adult" interpretation of J'en Ai Marre that is disturbing? Seriously, what? Why does Zack consider it a "perv story"?

Is this an unusual, twisted, or perverted form of sexuality? Hardly; it's something everyone has done from time to time (although perhaps not in the bubble-bath). Is it brutal, violent, cruel, or indicative of the ugly side of human nature? Not in the least. Is there anything nonconsensual going on? Is anyone getting hurt, either physically or emotionally? Again, no. About the worst you can say about it is that, compared to real sexuality in a relationship, it's trivial and not deeply satisfying. But in the context of creating a bubble to escape from all those obnoxious things on the list, so what?

[kdn]

This is from wiki (again):

Originally Posted by wiki

A target audience is the primary group of people that something is aimed at appealing to.

So who is JEAM's target audience?

[espire]

Pop music's target audience is everybody. Pop stands for popular, doncha know.

[Zack -Alizee Lover-]

Originally Posted by espire

Pop music's target audience is everybody. Pop stands for popular, doncha know.

Yeh and Rock stands for Rocket.

[Deepwaters]

Originally Posted by espire

Pop music's target audience is everybody. Pop stands for popular, doncha know.

Agreed.

You know, I love just about every song Alizée has ever sung, and I'm a long way from 13 years old. (Never mind just how long. ) Not just in terms of sexuality, but also in other ways, philosophical meanings, hints of mysticism, historical reflection, personal trajedy, ideas of freedom, maturation, responsibility, these are not just bubble-gum kiddie songs.

I would also recommend getting used to the idea of her singing primarily for an adult audience, which I think will be the case from now on.