JAM - did Alizée know?

[TheBarrett]

Leave it a mystery, for it is magic when we, the individual, bring our own representation of each piece that has brought us happiness.

[Amigo!]

^ Nuff said...

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[Tchaikovsky]

Originally Posted by Amigo!

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Thank god! jk

[Rev]

Originally Posted by edgar93

http://www.moi-alizee.us/forums/show...3&postcount=40

Can´t believe this! somebody tell me if it is true!! I´m sure this is not the meaning of JEAM, im sure she had not sing JEAM!!

Originally Posted by edgar93

Someone explain me!! I think i won´t sleep tonight..

Originally Posted by mavsluver41

No one knows, that's the point. I don't know, Ruroshen doesn't know (though his ideas are rather convincing ), not even Alizée knows completely. Only Mylene knows entirely, and in all probability, she interwove several meanings together in order to befuddle us and entice us with ambiguity.

I have been trying unsuccessfully to find an old thread on this topic. In that thread, a girl from France said that Alizée in fact did not know as much as you might think, and had told a younger female relative of hers (who sat next to this girl in class) this. Although there was some debate on this, I found the story to be plausable.

I believe Alizée told the girl this. The only debate in my mind was why. At the time I came up with two possibilities: 1) The girl was naive and Alizée wanted to give her the ability to deny it to her classmates, or 2) she really did not know some of the detail (as in perhaps Mylene didn't tell her the entire meaning).

I leave it to you to decide which.

[Roman]

Originally Posted by Rev

I have been trying unsuccessfully to find an old thread on this topic. In that thread, a girl from France said that Alizée in fact did not know as much as you might think, and had told a younger female relative of hers (who sat next to this girl in class) this. Although there was some debate on this, I found the story to be plausable.

I believe Alizée told the girl this. The only debate in my mind was why. At the time I came up with two possibilities: 1) The girl was naive and Alizée wanted to give her the ability to deny it to her classmates, or 2) she really did not know some of the detail (as in perhaps Mylene didn't tell her the entire meaning).

I leave it to you to decide which.

I certainly remember that discussion. I think some people have tried too hard to find sexual innuendo. Sure, there is some obviously but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Maybe all those unnecessary extra meanings are what Alizée hadn't thought about until someone told her. I would like to have known her back then. Or now. Or anytime.
Hey, ultra sexy, cuter than a button, beautiful voice, innocent in mind and action, happy, confident, hard working, talented, optimistic yet accepting of the world as it is ... what was it that drew me to Alizée?

[dreamer]

This thread is hilarious. Some people take this too seriously (edgar93). What's the big deal if she knew? As has already been pointed out it's just one of many possible interpretations and I'm sure Alizée realized this as well. It's not in-your-face-type vulgarity but subtle, playful innuendo and that's 100% ok in my view.

Oh, ouuiiii! (sorry, couldn't resist)

*Edit*:

http://moi-alizee.us/play/?v=11

Look closely at the guitarists at 2:30 (you'll probably have to download a high quality version to see it). He does that again, in another performance (M6), which leaves two possibilities: He was cocky/didn't care if he was fired or Mylene specifically instructed them to act this way. Now why could that be?

[edgar93]

Whats a cucumber? in spanish I think it is HUEVO, but whatever, isn´t that line referring that she is mmm, alergic to the zuchinnis?

Because in the interview of fun tv, Lucas ask her for the meaning of some lines, and the one of throwing up, its because she is alergic.

[mavsluver41]

Originally Posted by edgar93

Whats a cucumber? in spanish I think it is HUEVO, but whatever, isn´t that line referring that she is mmm, alergic to the zuchinnis?

Right you are, my friend. I inadvertently put cucumber because someone else said cucumber in this thread. Oh, and I just spent two hours stuffing my head with 200 spanish food vocabulary words for a test tomorrow, so I can say with confidence that cucumber is "el pepino" in spanish .

[Ruroshen]

Originally Posted by mavsluver41

Right you are, my friend. I inadvertently put cucumber because someone else said cucumber in this thread.

Sorry, my fault. I always get cucumbers and zucchinis mixed up...but after extensive research (i.e. I watched this video a few times) I can definitively state that it is, in fact, zucchinis.

I'm also no longer certain that the double-clicking is meant to be just an undertone, anymore. "Getting there can be tricky", indeed.

(Man, I feel dirty. Why am I participating in this? )

[Ben]

Edgar93, please try not to double post. If you have more to say but no one else has responded yet, use the EDIT button to amend your last message.

Anyway, this topic comes up now and again. Of course JEAM has a strong theme of masturbation, though it always bothers me when people focus on that to the detriment of the other meanings.

For example, saying one feels like "a goldfish in a bowl" is a way of expressing lack of privacy, often in the celebrity sense. This is another symbolic meaning of the goldfish, especially in the music video

Did Alizée realize all this? I'd like to think so, she's not slow. And if anything her answers on FunTV say to me that she knew exactly why the host was asking, and was playing coy.