AJ wishes to work with MF again

[DrSmith]

Originally Posted by Corsaire

Are you going a bit overboard here, Docteur?

I already admitted that I took this discussion to a level that it wasn't at, and that it's not just about Alizée. I can rant, can't I?

Originally Posted by Corsaire

Docteur, where was it demanded that any woman should be forced to live by any rule set for them?

Oh, lots of places. I assure you. And are you telling me that someone's preference for "modest" women is not influenced by an ages-old standard set for them?

Originally Posted by Corsaire

I believe every single person has the right to reject and dislike whatever they want. No one has demanded that Alizée’s clitoris by excised if she shows her ass. No one has asked that MF be lapidated on the public place or put in prison for her striptease in that video.

No, but it's been implied time and time again. People stating that they would lose all respect for Alizée if she was nude in a video (or because she got tattoos.) Because Alizée represents some kind of "purity" to them, which is a result of patriarchal oppression. That's my point. You don't have to like something, but losing all respect for someone and regarding them as trash is a step too far.

Originally Posted by Corsaire

In the case of MF, I don’t value her work because there is nothing of substance she can offer me. She has built a career based on the controversial nature of her work and, well, to me, she has stopped being controversial and innovative a very long time ago. As for her sexy erotic side, I don’t care for it. Too contrived, too obvious, too childish and silly. So, I just reject her act. Not because she is a woman or because I am sexist. Not because she shows some skin, but simply because I find her uninteresting. And on top of this, I claim the right to share my views on this subject, regardless of “what MF wants to do with her life and her body” and regardless of what any of her fans might think. In the case of Alizée, if she starts to show her ass, I will drop her instantly. Not because she is a woman, not because I am sexist, but simply because this is not the reason why I am following her career. I would also seize to be a fan if she started eating rats or setting farts on fire on stage... even if that is “her choice and her body”.

You're not one of the people calling Mylène or Carla Bruni a slut and a whore, so I'm not talking about you.

[Bigdan]

Originally Posted by DrSmith

You're not one of the people calling Mylène or Carla Bruni a slut and a whore, so I'm not talking about you.

I don't want to take part of this debate, which I see it as too much serious on such a subject for me. I would just say calling Mylène a slut is bad, specially if you really mean it. She called herself a "harlot" in Libertine. And that was just about teasing and fun. And I like her for that.