Go Back   Alizée America Forum > Other Subjects > Off Topic

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 10-07-2007, 01:05 AM
Matrix's Avatar
Matrix Matrix is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Las Vegas, USA
Posts: 731
Matrix is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnywash View Post

Most French understand English very well but refuse to speak it. It's not their language, shy should they.
Most americans speak spanish but refuse to speak it, why should they? That's for anyone living in the southwest USA, that's the entire southwestern united states and anyone who enters a Walmart, lol

I see the french get disgusted with other languages spoken in their country as we americans do, ROFL
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-07-2007, 01:18 AM
Capn's Avatar
Capn Capn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New York, New York
Age: 34
Posts: 466
Capn is on a distinguished road
Default

I could care less if you speak your native language in America just don't expect me to reply I ONLY speak English I was not saying that French that don't speak English should try to speak I was saying if they speak it and I don't speak French at all they could try to help me out.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-07-2007, 01:57 AM
Fish's Avatar
Fish Fish is offline
euuuhhhhh
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SC
Age: 34
Posts: 907
Fish is on a distinguished road
Default

What most people fail to realize is that our citizens are a lot alike. Just like I won't even bother with somebody who comes up and tries to instigate a conversation in Spanish without so much an "hablas espanol," a Frenchman won't converse in English if you don't try to speak in French.

Its a 60 year old article, but so much of that still holds true today. I think I'll spread it around a bit.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-07-2007, 04:06 AM
Rev's Avatar
Rev Rev is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Floating on the web.
Posts: 2,850
Rev is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Capn View Post
I could care less if you speak your native language in America just don't expect me to reply I ONLY speak English I was not saying that French that don't speak English should try to speak I was saying if they speak it and I don't speak French at all they could try to help me out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish View Post
What most people fail to realize is that our citizens are a lot alike. Just like I won't even bother with somebody who comes up and tries to instigate a conversation in Spanish without so much an "hablas espanol," a Frenchman won't converse in English if you don't try to speak in French.

Its a 60 year old article, but so much of that still holds true today. I think I'll spread it around a bit.
I have always been more than willing to try to help someone visiting the USA, who does not speak English, with whatever limited language skills I have (as long as they are not rude - and they almost never are). I am proud of this country, and am delighted that they chose to visit it. At that moment, I am America to them, and I want them to see us in our best light.

I have also been in France several times. The issue of whether they are willing to speak English or not seems to be generational to some extent. Those from the World War 2 era and after were much less willing to than those in their teens and twenties. I also noticed that the French, in general, have become more willing over the yers to speak English than they used to be.

Last edited by Rev; 10-07-2007 at 04:08 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-07-2007, 05:28 AM
WindReaver's Avatar
WindReaver WindReaver is offline
Ultimate Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 172
WindReaver is on a distinguished road
Default

There is a huge difference between somebody that lives here and does not bother to learn English and somebody that is just visiting that does not know English.

If you live here and only speak Spanish then you are just being lazy. I would not expect somebody that just got off a boat from Spain or Brazil to know English. I would not expect them to learn an entire language just for a holiday visit, and I would help them out however I could.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-07-2007, 06:29 AM
Piblokto's Avatar
Piblokto Piblokto is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: 5th floor...
Posts: 239
Piblokto is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnywash View Post
Most French understand English very well but refuse to speak it. It's not their language, shy should they.
This is a real cliché. The truth is that most of the people here don't speak any foreign language at all. But it's true that saying the magic words like "please sir (or madame), do you speak english" before adressing somebody will help a lot. If the answer is "non", it's just because this person doesn't, not because he (or she) refuses.
In my case, if I know a few words of english, it's only because -long time ago- I wanted to know what was in the Beatles songs. Isn't it what Alzée did to some of you who became interested in learning french ?

And thank you Windreaver for posting this very interesting army booklet, although it's 60 years old, many things in it are still valid now...
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-07-2007, 02:37 PM
WindReaver's Avatar
WindReaver WindReaver is offline
Ultimate Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 172
WindReaver is on a distinguished road
Default

You're welcome. =)

I thought it a nice glimpse into life in France in the 1940's.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-07-2007, 03:58 PM
Edcognito's Avatar
Edcognito Edcognito is offline
Don't speak French :(
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: In the wilds of upstate NY.
Age: 63
Posts: 1,367
Edcognito is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnywash View Post
The French gave us Alizee, so I love them.

Also, don't judge all the French by the people in Paris. It's like saying all Americans are like New Yorkers.

I can't wait to return to the City of Lights and this time I'll be looking for Alizee.

?

Whats wrong with New York? We're friendly people too! Some of us even like ( ) Alizée!

Ed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Capn View Post
I could care less if you speak your native language in America just don't expect me to reply I ONLY speak English I was not saying that French that don't speak English should try to speak I was saying if they speak it and I don't speak French at all they could try to help me out.

DUDE! Use a comma, a period, ANYTHING!

DOWN WITH RUN ON SENTENCES!




Ed
__________________

"Most men serve the state thus: Not as men mainly, but as machines . . . "
Henry David Thoreau
Civil Disobedience

Last edited by CFHollister; 10-07-2007 at 04:04 PM.. Reason: merged
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10-07-2007, 04:08 PM
CFHollister's Avatar
CFHollister CFHollister is offline
Fan d'Alizée (pour toujour)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Buckley, WA (USA)
Age: 42
Posts: 2,345
CFHollister is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edcognito View Post
DUDE! Use a comma, a period, ANYTHING!

DOWN WITH RUN ON SENTENCES!




Ed
Tell me about it Guess what it's like for a teacher like me to look at that. Although, at least he's using capitalizationm, decent grammar, and standard spelling. It's when people throw all of those out the window that I start fighting the urge to scratch out my eyes.
__________________
C'est ta faute... mais on t'aime quand même, Alizée!
Tu m'as pris dès le premier "moi."
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 10-07-2007, 04:15 PM
Capn's Avatar
Capn Capn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New York, New York
Age: 34
Posts: 466
Capn is on a distinguished road
Default

Sorry I never enjoyed using punctuation I tend to mess it up. I will try a little more if it is that important to you. As for New Yorkers I am a New Yorker, I live in the city and whenever I leave the city, I usually find people ridiculously nice. lol (forgive me if I made any grammatical mistakes I never was too fond of it so I never bothered learning it properly)
__________________

Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:55 AM.