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Old 08-08-2009, 01:39 AM
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Yeah, I can understand about the flag positions... in a 2D logo format like this I guess it might be more important to deliver on the eye's expectations for the flags to look "right" despite where the hoist is. One more tweak to the French flag would be to darken the red to match the stripes in the US flag; as it it looks slightly pink.

I like the bigger flags but not the supersized so much. On version 4 it looks like the whole thing could still be framed by a circle if you went that far; where the supersized flags push it out to the sides overall so that it would have to be framed by an ellipse.

I still prefer "Alizée America" in a single line. Stacked doesn't necessarily look bad, but "Alizée" looks smaller, but I think it might be an optical illusion. I know Ben mentioned even making "America" bigger, but I like to make sure that Alizée remains prominent.

I like the resized flame; looks good. I also like the outlining in grey, very much; it's a solid compromise. I understand about the color of the 'A'; it does blend rather well with the flame. I'm just concerned that it doesn't blend too well, such that at some distance that the 'A' isn't distinct enough to be seen clearly... Perhaps darkening it a little?
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Old 08-08-2009, 02:07 AM
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If you upsize the word "America" a bit, you can bring it up closer to "Alizée". That's what I did in my little logo, and I think it looks better that way.
Cool, thanks. I think I'm with CF in that I prefer the way it looks with "Alizée America" written side-by-side, but I'll give it a try.

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You know Ruro, just my cent but I think you should add a ball-topper on the other side of the poles as well. The cut off line effect really doesn't seem too, well you know, there's just something missing over there.
Yeah, I know what you're saying. For the first few takes, I went to the trouble of rounding off the masts, but I've gotten lazy with these last few. I dunno if I'll add another ball on the bottom--I'm not sure I like the look of them on the top, honestly--but I'll definitely throw something on down there to make them look "finished".

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I'd ask for a little ripple-depth on the flags, but i'm not sure how that would turn out, so I guess it's all good no matter what.
I don't know that my meager Photoshop skills are up to it, but I can try it and see how it works. Don't hold your breath, though!

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One more tweak to the French flag would be to darken the red to match the stripes in the US flag; as it it looks slightly pink.
Hmm, hadn't considered that, but I see what you mean. I'll fix it on the next pass.

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I like the bigger flags but not the supersized so much. On version 4 it looks like the whole thing could still be framed by a circle if you went that far; where the supersized flags push it out to the sides overall so that it would have to be framed by an ellipse.
OK, that's one vote for the flag-size in version 4. I could go either way, myself. Anyone else have a vote before I start work on the next pass tomorrow?

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I like the resized flame; looks good. I also like the outlining in grey, very much; it's a solid compromise. I understand about the color of the 'A'; it does blend rather well with the flame. I'm just concerned that it doesn't blend too well, such that at some distance that the 'A' isn't distinct enough to be seen clearly... Perhaps darkening it a little?
Another really good point I hadn't even considered. I'll try a couple of different colour combinations on the next pass.

Thanks for all your input, guys. This is fun!
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Old 08-08-2009, 02:10 AM
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OK, that's one vote for the flag-size in version 4. I could go either way, myself. Anyone else have a vote before I start work on the next pass tomorrow?
I like both. Just looking at it I like the larger flags more, but then I get CFH's point about fitting the design in a circle. So I guess it would depend what we're using this for. I'd say go with #4 for now.
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Old 08-08-2009, 02:33 AM
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I like both. Just looking at it I like the larger flags more, but then I get CFH's point about fitting the design in a circle. So I guess it would depend what we're using this for. I'd say go with #4 for now.
Well, I can actually keep updating both without too much trouble, honestly. It feels like we've got the basic design down now, and it's all going to be fiddly bits from this point on.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't see a practical application for this (*cough*T-shirts!*cough*), but I honestly did start this just because I thought CFH's description was really cool, and I wanted to see if it could work visually. I just love the symbolism of it. The Liberty torch especially is a touch of genius.

Wish I could work a maple leaf in there, too...but enh, you work with whatcha got.
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Old 08-08-2009, 02:34 AM
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Well, I can actually keep updating both without too much trouble, honestly. It feels like we've got the basic design down now, and it's all going to be fiddly bits from this point on.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't see a practical application for this (*cough*T-shirts!*cough*), but I honestly did start this just because I thought CFH's description was really cool, and I wanted to see if it could work visually. I just love the symbolism of it. The Liberty torch especially is a touch of genius.

Wish I could work a maple leaf in there, too...but enh, you work with whatcha got.
Hey you know, you're a smart-aleck, you can screw one in the block somehow.
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Old 08-08-2009, 03:16 AM
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Wish I could work a maple leaf in there, too...but enh, you work with whatcha got.
Well the way I see it, you have a couple of options:
1) You can do another variation with a Canadian flag instead of the USA one.

2) You can turn the balls on top of the flagpoles you don't like that much in small black maple leaves (or maybe even read ones outlined in black).


There's also a very much more complicated tack you can take, but you might take that on as a separate project after you feel you're done with this one...

You can imagine a Mexican eagle, wings outstretched, over all clutching a pair of maple leaves. Also, dolphins (Alizée's favorite) supporting (rather in the positions of the lions in the Queen "crest") and also the traditional title given to the heir apparent to the throne of France (). Anyway just an idea for continuation of this project (but really a separate one)
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