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10-11-2010, 07:49 PM
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Mes Fantomes Hidden Message? - Discuss
So anyways after a tiny chat convo about how Aaron wanted me to play Mes Fantomes I replied...
OK ill do MF, this then set off a whole bunch of wheels and thought processes. MF = Mes Fantomes MF = Mylene Farmer So thats what got me rolling. It started off with a Mes Fantomes..My Phantomes or My Ghosts, I then related it to how Myelene is now like a phantom haunting her now. People want Alizee to get back together with her but it won't happen and Alizee is trying to get this out of her head but its stuck there like a phantom. Along with this Mes Fantomes writes about mistakes made previously, whether they relate to her or not is unknown but for this discussions sake I believed them to be directly related to her life. She makes a lot of references towards a mistake in the past: Oh mes erreurs, mes faux-fuyants, mes cousus blanc[s] 2, mes histoires, mes calvaires Oh my errors, my false-perspectives, my white lies, my history, my sufferings She makes a direct statement to an error in a long time ago. Her history...hmmm another subtle reference or just a coincidence once again Im assuming it to be about MF (Mylene) but what you pick is up to you. Then we get this little Gem over here: Oh mon enfant, mon diamant noir, mon solitaire, mon petit, ma prière Oh my child, my black diamond, my recluse / solitaire [diamond], my little [one], my prayer / plea / entreaty Now you can take Ma Priere as just being My Prayer ORRRRR...in 1999 Ma Priere was the song Alizee preformed that first caught the attention of MF and LB....hmmm interesting Also Oh mes amours, nos jeux troublants, tes yeux brûlants, mes larmes Oh my loves, our confusing games, your fiery eyes / glances, my tears, my miracles Your Fiery eyes could pertain to the authoritive figure that MF had on her career, her style of music, her preformances, how she danced etc. Maybe forced into a few things without admitting to not wanting to do them? Now once again this is all speculation but after Alizee left MF people have said that she would never be the same and she lost a lot of fans. In a way MF is still overshadowing her career but not really in a positive way, more of an image from the fans that she could have kept her popularity and so on. Also, she is seen now as the person who left MF after having success by many, look on youtube many comments are about What Happened to her after she left etc... So in a way Mylene Farmer is like a phantom to Alizee, because what is a phantom? Its an invisible thing that follows you, haunts you, stays with you, it is not physical but you know its there. Like that Lolita image she had, it still follows her as people want her to return back to it. So in the end, I believe that Mes Fantomes was written about Mylene Farmer and her career during that phase, but then again I Might be wrong. And if there is another thread like this I apologize.. Thoughts?, Agree? Disagree? More points to offer?
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10-11-2010, 08:36 PM
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I don't think she has this strong of negative feelings, but I know she has some since she hates people on facebook calling her a lolita and talking about how they like her JEAM video so much. She wants everyone to appreciate not only her older works, but her newer ones too, since that's how she makes money for her family. But yah....she definitely is grateful...
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10-11-2010, 08:42 PM
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hum...
 Sorry but this is pure speculations. And don't fit at all. By the way " nos jeux troublants " don't mean " confusing games" but " teasing games" in an erotic way... so ? 
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10-11-2010, 08:46 PM
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I hadn't noticed the MF before in Mes fantômes. Interesting, but likely a coincidence.
A lot of the lyrics obviously refer to times after she broke up with MF/LB rather than before.
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10-11-2010, 08:57 PM
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Well yea I wasnt sure if it was coincidence or not thats why I asked for discussion
 and about the translations I pullde em from the Alizee Reflections page so take it up with them.. Well thanks for clearing it up sometimes I draw strange conclusions up :S seemed believable at the time :O
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10-11-2010, 10:51 PM
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10-11-2010, 11:20 PM
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