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Old 02-24-2014, 05:20 PM
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Alizée & Grégoire already have matching tattoos. awwww



"One love" ... and "one life"... like the O2 song from their freestyle.
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Bigdan showed this screen capture in the DALS thread. Here is her "Let it be" tattoo.
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I thought if she met a "good" man, he might talk some good sense into her, but Gregoire still has that deer in the headlights look in him where he's saying "humadahumada" and it looks like she talked some good sense out of him.
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I thought if she met a "good" man, he might talk some good sense into her, but Gregoire still has that deer in the headlights look in him where he's saying "humadahumada" and it looks like she talked some good sense out of him.
talking some good sense into her in what way? About her tattoos? Or what? If he loves her then he loves her with or without tattoos because he loves the person. They are part of her - if you like them or not. I don't know what you mean. I don't see any "deer in the headlights look". I just see someone who adores the person right next to him. What's wrong with that?
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talking some good sense into her in what way? About her tattoos? Or what? If he loves her then he loves her with or without tattoos because he loves the person. They are part of her - if you like them or not. I don't know what you mean. I don't see any "deer in the headlights look". I just see someone who adores the person right next to him. What's wrong with that?
Wow Jenny!!!!!!!!!!...................Wow!!!!!

Don't you know you are not supposed to poke a sleeping dog? I know you're mainly a member of AF, but you also post here on a regular basis and we all consider you a valuable member, but I'm surprised you don't know my views on her tattoos. In fact, I started a thread so I could discuss openly my views on them so people who didn't want to hear the negative things I had to say about them, would see the name of the thread "Those opposed to her tattoos" and stay out if they so chose.

Because this is an Alizée "fan" forum, does that mean we are supposed to follow her blindly? If we see her make a mistake are we supposed to think "This is Alizée.............she doesn't make mistakes.............it must be me that's wrong?"? No because these are forums for discussion.

Just as you have a right to say something in support of her tats, I have the right to say something opposed. I keep a lot of my opinions in check on the subject, mainly because what's the use? But I viewed this as possibly a major turning point in her tattoos. For some reason, she had enough sense to not turn her left arm into something resembling that thing that's attached to her right shoulder. Now I feel this could be a start of a rash of new bunch of matching tattoos so, I felt I had to say something at this time and I have the right to say something.

I'm concerned about it and I want her to know at least one fan doesn't like it and I did it in what I think was a relatively conservative way, because believe me, I'd really would like to let her know the rest of what I'm thinking inside, if I knew for sure, she plans on throwing that left arm away.

But if you want to discuss this subject further, I suggest we discuss it in that thread I started where there will be no punches pulled.

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If we see her make a mistake
well... and what when YOU make a mistake...? Its easy to show others mistakes, but admit own mistake its impossible... or not?
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well... and what when YOU make a mistake...? Its easy to show others mistakes, but admit own mistake its impossible... or not?
I'm sorry Karin but that lost something in the translation. I think you're trying to say that I think I'm Mister Perfect and I never make mistakes.

I make mistakes all the time; big ones too. If you want, you know I posted some very long posts. I'll post a list of mistakes I've made in here and or a list of mistakes I've made in my life. There's a recent one I made about the chat window.

Getting back to what Jenny said, my views over the years haven't changed. I hate them as much now as I did when she first got that one on her back. We've been over this time and time again and if you're interested in those views, then I suggest you go to that thread I mentioned and you will see it all.

I try to keep negative comments about her tats to a minimum outside of that thread, but it's kind of a new ball game now that Gregoire is involved and there was also the fact that my biggest criticism of her tattoos was that someone struggling for success should not take away from their best assets and of course one of hers was her great beauty. But now she has found success again and now maybe she's happy with that and doesn't care if she has any more, so she might feel she can tattoo away.

So things have changed and I wanted to make a comment on it, so I did.

I'd like to discuss it some more, but if I do, I will do it in that thread.


Here's the link to that thread by the way.

http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/show...?t=7272&page=7

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wow. next time I better don't say anything.

just for info - I don't like (most) or her tattoos as well, I mean the first tattoos like Tinkerbell on her back or the one on her ankle or the little Annily or the tattoo with Jeremy's name... these were okay, also because they seem to have a meaning (except the little lizard perhaps) and then she started covering her arm with random cartoon characters. I don't like that. And I started getting annoyed and was like "oh no another?" but now I don't really care anymore. She enjoys having tattoos? Ok. I don't really like them. I don't like tattoos very much in general because I always think 'it looks nice now but how will it look in 20 years?' So I don't like them but she does. That doesn't make her a worse person. I know she isn't perfect but who is perfect? No one.

And the "I don't think any of the personality traits she presented in her early years were real." Well. Performing in "Pour Laurette" and animating people to donate their blood plates was totally not part of her caring nature she showed several times, for example participating @ Les Enfoirés over the last years, being patron for an organisation who wants to help a fatally ill kid and other things. Of course not. Oh and of course she's totally not the shy girl she always claimed to be, the girl who said several times that "Lolita" is just a part she's playing, the same girl who cried during DALS because she coudn't even believe that she could win, the girl people picked on because of her glasses when she was little.

Of course the Alizée from 10 years ago is slightly different from the Alizée now. Mylene Farmer had a big impact during Alizée's early years after all. Of course she had to play the Lolita role. But I still see a lot of this girl in the woman Alizée is now. And seriously. When you look back at the time when you guys were younger.. are you 100 % the same? I doubt it. We all change a bit over the years, we make decisions that define us, we make choices. But IMHO the core is still the same. And I personally think that Alizée wanted to have tattoos for a long time but she wasn't allowed to have them. Cute little girl with Lolita imagine but with ugly tattoos on her arm? Nooooooooo... I doubt that Mylene would have been to happy about this. But looking at the mass of tattoos we got after she split up with Jérémy it's clear that she wanted these for a long(ish) time, she said that in her family there are several fans of tattoos so why shouldn't she like them as well? She simply postponed it and got them later. Would have it made her a worse person if she would have got these tattoos in 2003? No. So why does it change anything now?

And... Even if Grégoire was besotted with Alizée since he was 14 he shortly will have realised that the girl he met is not the Lolita he was crazy about. So he fell in love with the person and not with that far-way-person from when he was a teenager. Also there are always two people in a relationship. But yeah we can judge about this in a few months when both are busy with their own stuff. oh yeah and of course he wants to impress her but that doesn't have to mean that he only did that tattoo thing because of that.

Anyway... I don't like most of tattoos, I don't think Alizée is making every time the best decision but I don't see why I should get annoyed and moan about it every time she gets a new one? I'm past that stage. I accept what she's doing, I don't have to like it (even if I personally think the partner-tattoo idea was cute because it actually has a meaning), I can even hate it but who would care? Alizée? No. So why bother? There are more important things to worry about than her tattoos.
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I thought if she met a "good" man, he might talk some good sense into her, but Gregoire still has that deer in the headlights look in him where he's saying "humadahumada" and it looks like she talked some good sense out of him.
I agree.

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One of the reasons I've been able to get over being so crazy about her over the years has been those ugly tattoos. I absolutely despise tattoos and they definitely ruin her look. Tattoos cover up her best features, and they just look like graffiti on human skin to me. Scruff, maybe it's not possible to "talk sense" into her. Maybe this is just who Alizée is. I don't think any of the personality traits she presented in her early years were real. And if they were, I don't think that's who she is anymore anyway. It's fine, I've moved on. I'll miss the way I used to feel about her, but you can't change people.
It was us, who misinterpreted what she showed back then as her personality traits. She played her role. Not that this makes her some sort of a bad person... perhaps she is a subset of what we would like to think she is, but she is also much more than that, which includes also things that we don't want her to be. However, such conclusions were made many times on this forum.

And Jenny, I believe Scruffy is right.
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Jenny you are from a different generation who sees tattoos as art, when older guys see a woman with Tattoo's plastered all over her body it can be a real turn off. I'm like Scruffydog I love the woman hate the Tattoo's.

It is well known the Gregoire was crazy about Alizée since he was fourteen years of age. Yes, he's one hundred percent into her and I'm betting the tattoo he got on his arm was to make her happy not him. Guys will do some really stooped stuff to impress a girl they like, it's in our nature.

Lets wait and see if this long distance relationship lasts through the summer before we assume they in it for the long term.
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