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Old 01-04-2020, 02:49 AM
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The price for dance lessons at Gregoire and Alizee's studio is quite reasonable. From what I see in videos taken in the studio, Gregoire is the main teacher and Alizee seems to help out mostly in the front. I did see a few videos of other teachers in the summer program, but I imagine the two of them are around, so you might want to request Gregoire.

For a big fan, if you happen to be in Europe anyway, stopping by to take a few lessons might be a good idea. Beats just asking for an autograph. For the price of a few private lessons over a few days, you would actually personally know them.

Private Lesson - 36 €
Trial Lesson - 10 €
2 Lessons per week for a year - 266 €

http://www.danselyonnet.fr/tarifs.php
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The price for dance lessons at Gregoire and Alizee's studio is quite reasonable. From what I see in videos taken in the studio, Gregoire is the main teacher and Alizee seems to help out mostly in the front. I did see a few videos of other teachers in the summer program, but I imagine the two of them are around, so you might want to request Gregoire.

For a big fan, if you happen to be in Europe anyway, stopping by to take a few lessons might be a good idea. Beats just asking for an autograph. For the price of a few private lessons over a few days, you would actually personally know them.

Private Lesson - 36 €
Trial Lesson - 10 €
2 Lessons per week for a year - 266 €

http://www.danselyonnet.fr/tarifs.php
Good info to know zingy! I'll have to make sure I bring my credit card with me next time I go.
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Old 01-04-2020, 09:33 AM
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Good info to know zingy! I'll have to make sure I bring my credit card with me next time I go.
This is actually a common technique of social climbers. Find an interest of a celebrity or nobleman/old money and use that to know the person. That is one of the reasons charities try to get famous patrons. If a celebrity has an interest in saving the red tailed snail darter of Cucamonga, he would do expensive fundraisers, and the social climbers would buy the tickets for access. They would also know to discuss the snail darter or whatever else interested the celebrity.

Lady (NOT Princess!) Diana raised many, many millions for charity with this method. She was the ultimate person "to know."

Social climbing is a skill, one that women are the best at. There are many books written about it. Can't push too hard, need to do it just right.

Social climbing can be an expensive hobby, but "I know" (quotes intentional, this is about "who you know") social climbers that actually became friends of celebrities and old money people, as in even getting invited to their houses for dinner.


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Old 01-04-2020, 11:07 AM
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This is actually a common technique of social climbers. Find an interest of a celebrity or nobleman/old money and use that to know the person. That is one of the reasons charities try to get famous patrons. If a celebrity has an interest in saving the red tailed snail darter of Cucamonga, he would do expensive fundraisers, and the social climbers would buy the tickets for access. They would also know to discuss the snail darter or whatever else interested the celebrity.

Lady (NOT Princess!) Diana raised many, many millions for charity with this method. She was the ultimate person "to know."

Social climbing is a skill, one that women are the best at. There are many books written about it. Can't push too hard, need to do it just right.

Social climbing can be an expensive hobby, but "I know" (quotes intentional, this is about "who you know") social climbers that actually became friends of celebrities and old money people, as in even getting invited to their houses for dinner.

I think this is a subject that Bamagirl may know a few things about but she's on a trip and might not be able to respond for a few days.
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Old 06-02-2020, 08:02 PM
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I think this is a subject that Bamagirl may know a few things about but she's on a trip and might not be able to respond for a few days.
I have not read that particular book but it looks interesting. I do happen to have some experience, from several different perspectives, with the phenomenon of social climbing.

It is most definitely true that social climbers will adjust their habits, hang-outs and priorities to fit the particular venue they are attempting to enter or to get close to a particular individual. It is often becoming party of a celebrity’s inner circle that is the goal, but it can also be a private person--a very wealthy or influential business person, for example, or a member of a private club they wish to join or someone on the board of directors of a company they wish to do business with. That is a mixture of social climbing with business. Sometimes it can be hard to distinguish between the two.

The whole idea is to become close to a particular person, or part of a social sphere, that one does not automatically have access to. This happens a lot in some societies where "family background" is more important to certain members of the society than money or fame or talent. In that case, social climbers who wish to be accepted will marry into a particular family or attempt to join a college fraternity or sorority whose members are people they wish to be accepted by, or join a church or club or charitable committee that their target group or person is part of or sponsors.

Most celebrities are well aware of social climbers and, while many ultimately accept some as friends, they also never forget that, but for their position or bloodline or wealth or fame, that person would not be interested in them. Using Diane, the Princess of Wales as an example again: one of her great tragedies was not knowing who she could trust--who was really a friend who cared about her, and who just wanted to bask in her reflected glory, so to speak. This is why members of the royal family rely on close friends from childhood and often do not have, as true confidants, many others they meet in later years.

But that is not to say celebrities don't get something in return--often this is exactly what they have been seeking (though not desiring it to the exclusion of other types of relationships, of course). Many of them--especially the more philanthropic-minded-- enjoy the ability to influence people...to help them...to make a difference in their lives. Many of them genuinely and honestly appreciate their fans and admirers and understand that, but for those fans, they would not have achieved their successful positions.

People who rise to fame later in life often wisely cling to their early, legitimate friends and--though developing many other friendships and relationships through life--never completely let their guards down with anyone who didn't “know them when," as the saying goes.

This is one reason so many celebrities and other public figures (such as powerful politicians or leaders of industry or the children of the very rich) often seem to be so clueless about the world. They are surrounded by sycophants who tell them only what they want to hear and, after awhile, the bubble they live in becomes all they know and the usual checks and balances of normal life and relationships don't exist.

It happens to people who are wealthy, as well--even if they are not at all famous. They can be bitterly disappointed to realize, if they lose their wealth, that many of the people they considered friends were just hangers-on.

I think that is why many celebrities, like Alizeé, wisely cling to their privacy. They might truly value their fans--might truly enjoy mingling with them and associating with them and, sometimes, becoming genuine friends with some of them. I would actually be surprised if Alizeé has not made friends with fans along the way. But they also know how easy it can be to get carried out of a world of normalcy into that fake world. So, they protect their private lives from too many social climbers and too many yes-men.
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This is actually a common technique of social climbers. Find an interest of a celebrity or nobleman/old money and use that to know the person. That is one of the reasons charities try to get famous patrons. If a celebrity has an interest in saving the red tailed snail darter of Cucamonga, he would do expensive fundraisers, and the social climbers would buy the tickets for access. They would also know to discuss the snail darter or whatever else interested the celebrity.

Lady (NOT Princess!) Diana raised many, many millions for charity with this method. She was the ultimate person "to know."

Social climbing is a skill, one that women are the best at. There are many books written about it. Can't push too hard, need to do it just right.

Social climbing can be an expensive hobby, but "I know" (quotes intentional, this is about "who you know") social climbers that actually became friends of celebrities and old money people, as in even getting invited to their houses for dinner.

I actually bought this book a few days ago, pretty good read actually. Hmmm... maybe I'll give this a try LOL.
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The price for dance lessons at Gregoire and Alizee's studio is quite reasonable. From what I see in videos taken in the studio, Gregoire is the main teacher and Alizee seems to help out mostly in the front. I did see a few videos of other teachers in the summer program, but I imagine the two of them are around, so you might want to request Gregoire.

For a big fan, if you happen to be in Europe anyway, stopping by to take a few lessons might be a good idea. Beats just asking for an autograph. For the price of a few private lessons over a few days, you would actually personally know them.

Private Lesson - 36 €
Trial Lesson - 10 €
2 Lessons per week for a year - 266 €

http://www.danselyonnet.fr/tarifs.php
Interesting bit of information. I'm surprised the cost is so modest.
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Old 01-04-2020, 03:01 PM
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i can see them doing this because they wanted to most of all and Alizee's previous fortune would keep them comfortable. It wouldn't surprise me if they're hardly making any money at all after all expenses are considered. Bot a bad deal for all, given both one day wanted to have a dance school one day. Looks like everyone wins!
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Old 01-04-2020, 07:50 PM
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Her financial situation has always been a big puzzle to us. We think she should have made plenty of money from her early years (1999-2004), but one of the interesting rumors and I do stress rumors of what happened in her life is that Jeremy came along and told her she wasn't making as much money as she should be. So how much money did she make?

She's always seemed to like expensive accessories, yet we've never seen her in an expensive car.

I think she could have had her own place built in Ajaccio, after she moved back there, yet she chose to move into an apartment/condo that had a great view of the Blood Islands, a view she treasured so much. Was that view from that apartment/condo, more important to her than owning a place of her own?

We see today, more and more new fans come along, listening to her music, but in today's world, does that generate any serious money for her or is most of that lost due to pirating?

We saw from one of her early interviews that though we see she certainly wasn't surrounded in luxury, she never wanted. A woman who except for her expensive accessories, many of which she receives money for endorsing, she's never sought out luxury.

She could be set for life financially, or she may need that money from the studio.

I tend to think she's in very good financial shape, but I certainly can't say that for sure. She is a very hard person to figure out.
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Her financial situation has always been a big puzzle to us. We think she should have made plenty of money from her early years (1999-2004), but one of the interesting rumors and I do stress rumors of what happened in her life is that Jeremy came along and told her she wasn't making as much money as she should be. So how much money did she make?

She's always seemed to like expensive accessories, yet we've never seen her in an expensive car.

I think she could have had her own place built in Ajaccio, after she moved back there, yet she chose to move into an apartment/condo that had a great view of the Blood Islands, a view she treasured so much. Was that view from that apartment/condo, more important to her than owning a place of her own?
Well, this website says:
The French singer has an estimated net worth of $ 215 million. It owes its money to some smart equity investments, a substantial number of properties, and lucrative sponsorship deals with CoverGirl cosmetics. She also owns several restaurants (the “Fat Alizée Burger” chain) in Paris, a soccer team (the “Ajaccio Angels”), has launched her own vodka brand (Pure Wonderalizée - France) and is now trying to reach a younger target group with its well-selling perfume line ("From Alizée with love") and the fashion line "Seduction by Alizée".


The apartment offered enough room for 2 people and the view is really beautiful. I think owning your own property also requires a certain amount of maintenance, even when you are not at home.
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