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Old 10-23-2012, 04:17 AM
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Question Have you lost touch with the younger Alizée?

Is it just me, or is the constant updating of her Instagram/Twitter and the more "mature" <(debatable in many ways) feel to her last two albums putting a more "grown" look of Alizée inside your head?

I've noticed the last two years that when listening to her music, discussing her, and hearing her name makes an image inside my head of a present-day Alizée, not the younger innocent Alizée of 2000-2004.

I don't know if thats a good or bad thing, or anything at all. But her push to rid herself of the "Lolita" image is definitely working by the looks of these forums. After re-reading this last sentence I just typed, it has become very clear to me that this could have been her strategy all along, to distract us from Lolita with this totally different Alizée. Psychedelices was the start of the "ex-Lolita", UEDS was her way of showing that she can be very dark, and this upcoming album shows she can still get an album up and running despite the complications of her situation.

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Old 10-23-2012, 08:17 AM
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Is it just me, or is the constant updating of her Instagram/Twitter and the more "mature" <(debatable in many ways) feel to her last two albums putting a more "grown" look of Alizée inside your head?

I've noticed the last two years that when listening to her music, discussing her, and hearing her name makes an image inside my head of a present-day Alizée, not the younger innocent Alizée of 2000-2004.

I don't know if thats a good or bad thing, or anything at all. But her push to rid herself of the "Lolita" image is definitely working by the looks of these forums. After re-reading this last sentence I just typed, it has become very clear to me that this could have been her strategy all along, to distract us from Lolita with this totally different Alizée. Psychedelices was the start of the "ex-Lolita", UEDS was her way of showing that she can be very dark, and this upcoming album shows she can still get an album up and running despite the complications of her situation.

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This reminds me when we were looking for hidden messages in napkins and analysing her pictures with and without wedding ring. Because "that was her way of tell fans about this or that..."
I don't believe in any of that.

I agree with your post, she looks more mature. But I don't think it has a lot to do with her old Lolita image, at least with a conscious effort to get rid from that image. That was just a stage of her early career as a singer. If she shows a more mature image it is because in her personal life she is nearly the mother of that "imaginary" Lolita. And now she is a real mother, too.

I wonder how much she cares about her Lolita era. It is important for us as fans because it is a great era and a constant reference. And it was important for her, but from a professional point of view.
I doubt that has still have any influence on her personal life nowadays.

I bet Lolita, from a personal point of view, died when she retired and had a baby. And from a professional point of view, Lolita died long time ago. No need to try to escape from that image anymore. First, because no matter what she does she always will be Lolita for the 90% of the world that know Alizée but are not fans. Second, because you can not get more far away from the Lolita image than this:






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Old 10-23-2012, 12:13 PM
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To play "lolita" at about age 30 would be pathetic..thanks god she's whole grown up and she is showing us..still having that funny crazy way to take the live we can see on her fuzzy instagram pollution..I like that.
p.s. I like very much when she plays "Cleopatra"sometimes..you know..
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Old 10-23-2012, 03:05 PM
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To be honest, I've never really seen her that way. When I first discovered her, it was a few months before Psychedelices came out. So, while I'd seen all of her videos and listened to all of her music, it's kinda like we've grown up together. :P

Then again, I'm female, so I was never obsessed with her looks. I think she is very attractive and I really like her style, but I'm not sexually attracted to her, obviously.

Or am I?
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To be honest, I've never really seen her that way. When I first discovered her, it was a few months before Psychedelices came out. So, while I'd seen all of her videos and listened to all of her music, it's kinda like we've grown up together. :P

Then again, I'm female, so I was never obsessed with her looks. I think she is very attractive and I really like her style, but I'm not sexually attracted to her, obviously.

Or am I?

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Old 10-24-2012, 07:12 PM
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Euphoria, you wouldn't be the first or last heterosexual woman on this board that was physically attracted to Alizée.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:33 PM
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More disconnected thoughts from Ray follow.... Today marks six months since my discovery of Alizée. In that time I've been bombarded with 12 years of information, music, and video of her performing, interviews, and via Instagram, a few bits of her current private world. I discover new things everyday. Sometimes I feel like I'm observing several different people instead of one Alizée. I know that they are all the same person of course. There is a definite distinction between the era that ended at the end of the 03/04 concert tour and the one that emerged when Psychédélices was released. Then slightly different for UEDS. Now? It still feels somewhat UEDS to me. I feel that inside she's the same person across all these eras. Something inside her that has affected many fans in many ways.

Most of the time for me I regard her in the present. Doing her thing like everyone else. I've had a few different eras of my own, boring for sure, and at the time they may have seemed important and interesting, but after 'being there, doing that' I may have tired of things or found new things that were 'important.' I can remember back to highlights from the past, but mostly I think we all live our lives in the present. We learn from the past, things such as likes and dislikes, and apply that to the future. Most people's goals and plans change and I don't figure Alizée to be any different. I don't expect her to do anything that she's done before just because she did it. I expect her to do what's important to her now even though that could change. I don't think she could forget the Mylene era, but she learned from it and moved on. Been there, done that.

I still have no idea what this 'being-a-fan' stuff is about. It's a new adventure for me. I tend to want to let her just do her own thing.

As far as the thread's title topic goes....When I first heard about Alizée I went to Youtube and most of what's there is the younger Alizée. But the sense of who she is was somehow evident. I really liked hearing her sing the songs. Then I found out about the later two albums and while I didn't get right into them I have since. Her past is preserved on the internet for all to see. I don't ignore it but look to the future.

Well, I'd hoped trying to write this would help me, but I'm still confused...
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:49 PM
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I think she is grateful for her years as Lolitazee, but doesn't worry about getting away from that image as much as we like to speculate that she does. I'm sure she doesn't even think of it anymore. She seems to be a believer in living in the now, in the past she's said she doesn't like to think about the future too much - I wouldn't be surprised if she had the same philosophy about the past.

If she's smart, she probably knows that the more she pushes away from that image and worries about it, the more it will stick. If she's just chill and focuses on other things, people will eventually stop associating her with it - like we are now.
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I have always looked at Alizee as that friend I would love to have a beer with, shes that girl next door; at the same time she is that Mother figure we all expect to see in the Mall.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:59 PM
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I ran across her at twenty and never looked back. I have watched her for the last eight years come the end of November, and never ever considered Alizée as she was in the earlier years. As the song by the Monkee's during their reunion tour around 25 years years ago says, that was then, this is now.
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