How Degrading...

MesGourmandises · #1 10-22-2007, 02:08 PM

OK, well I have an opinionated question...
do you think that the j'en ai marre dance was degrading to alizee?
Seeing all those people watching her butt when she turned over, and every man yelling and cheering, she must have hated doing it! She probably was forced by mylene.. because she NEVER looks happy when she does it.. and sometimes she wears sweats instead of the suit, why do you think that happened? I think it was a compromise between alizee and mylene that alizee didnt want to wear degrading costumes like that very much...

anyway, don't you think it's degrading?
do you think she minded it?
because I watch it, and while i think shes beautiful, i feel so bad...

Solaris · #2 10-22-2007, 02:11 PM

Dude i'm sure she doesn't mind. In an interview she said she like to dress sexy and be flirty. She said that others thought she dressed provocative but she liked to dress like that. So i honestly believe she did not mind. And I have never seen her look unhappy when doing the dance.

PS I have the interview in question. It was an english interview and I believe I got it from Moe's site

AmericanFan · #3 10-22-2007, 02:17 PM

You underestimate Alizee. Nobody can force her to do anything. While I'm sure she didn't come up with it on her own, it didn't bother her any. Along with singing and dancing, she is also an actress. Obviously she was merely playing a role. And she did it well.
Unlike many others Alizee can be sexy without being disgusting. The girl has class.

ALS · #4 10-22-2007, 02:19 PM

Lets see 18 year old girl on stage dancing for the crowd. HUMMM.
She was enjoying being a tease. Look at the early performances and watch her face. She was having a good time out there.
I think as time went on she wasn't as comfortable with her performance and toned it down a little bit.
Watch the La Isla Bonita performance she was having a great time swinging her hips.
If she wasn't having a good time it wouldn't have been as sexy since she wouldn't have put as much effort into it. She is a performer as well as a trained dancer she knows what will sell and what wouldn't.

RMJ · #5 10-22-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Solaris

Dude i'm sure she doesn't mind. In an interview she said she like to dress sexy and be flirty.

She says what is needed to be say in media. Not everything in interviews should be taken literally, especially under Mylène's instructions.

And yeah... JEAM was bad for her. Mylène went too far with it. It really didn't fit in the image of the MCE album.

Did Alizée mind about that ? Well, not necessary as she understands that it's music business. But I doubt she loved it either. She just played her role and that's it.

Deepwaters · #6 10-22-2007, 02:32 PM

My own opinion about the JEAM dance is that it isn't degrading, but the whole complex of performances and image she had under Mylène's management was not quite right for her. As I understand it, Mylène and Laurent came up with a number of songs, with Moi . . . Lolita as the centerpiece, that they liked but that Mylène understood she was too old to perform herself. They auditioned for a girl who could be just as sexy and charismatic as Mylène, but was a teenager able to pull off the Lolita role.

The problem is that Alizée's performing style doesn't really involve acting a role most of the time. She connects with her audience as herself, and relates to them in a friendly way. You can really see it in the concert DVD and a lot of the TV performances. And she herself was never a Lolita and is not now a walking sex symbol. Whereas Mylène does perform a role when she sings; that's not the real Mylène you see on stage, it's a beautifully crafted and acted image.

It will be interesting to see what kind of performances Alizée does now that she's an adult and under her own management. My guess is that the sexuality will be more understated while it won't completely disappear. The performances will be more complex, more nuanced, and full of implications, but she'll still be connecting personally with the audience and still fully herself. But we'll see.

AmericanFan · #7 10-22-2007, 02:41 PM

Deepwaters hit the nail right on the head!

atra201 · #8 10-22-2007, 03:22 PM

my opinion she didn't like it
i believe from the few vids i saw that she only wore that out fit in France and not other JEAM performance cause she didn't like it in the first place
but i don't think it's degrading to Alizee

. I think it is degrading to those who say I wanna nail that to every woman they see
in my believe a woman is not just "a body to nail" she's more than that, she's your mother,sister, wife, aunt, she's your other half, if you keep thinking like what do you think your other half would think about you??that's why i hate porn but that doesn't mean a woman walking naked won't have eyes all over her.
(Or something in that effect)

let's what Alizee would do now .

AmericanFan · #9 10-22-2007, 03:39 PM

Get a grip... every normal guy would want to nail Alizee regardless what she wore. The truth is that there are some girls out there that would be interested too.
In any case, Alizee would have some say in it. She never struck me as the type who would EVER sleep around.
It doesn't matter what she wears. Alizee could dress up in a space suit and still be smokin' hot!

OGRE · #10 10-22-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MesGourmandises

anyway, don't you think it's degrading?

Nope.

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do you think she minded it?

Nope.

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because I watch it, and while i think shes beautiful, i feel so bad...

You hit it on the "shes beautiful" note. That's all you need. Art can be provocative. Art can be sensual. Art can be sexy. And it doesn't have to be bad. Alizée is a walking art museum. A museum full of wonderful beautiful art and song. Just enjoy the art.

By the way, when it come to the JEAM dance, the art I focus on is the eyes and smile. I see so many entertainers have to fake smiles. I can tell. That's a genuine real smile from someone really enjoying doing what they're doing.