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Old 01-09-2008, 10:25 PM
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Ted Bunty? what does this mean?
Anyway, I say leave him...I don't think that there are enough people who would travel somewhere to meet Alizée on a casual situation for it to be a problem for her. And I also don't think that you people should worry about this. I say: take it easy, let the boy dream.
Don't take the internet this seriously.
He was a famous serial killer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Bundy
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Old 01-09-2008, 10:29 PM
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He was a famous serial killer.

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lol you beat me to it there fsquared..
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:51 AM
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He was a famous serial killer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Bundy
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Being one that is somewhat familiar with what a 'true' bodyguard would prepare himself for, attitudinal adjustments, etc., in spite of the neurotic rationalizations that are relayed in your messages..."I don't think"..."for it to be a problem (to someone else)"..."also don't think you should worry:" that leads to being misdirected; not too persuasive of an argument on your part. It is not the Internet taken too seriously, but what a person says and does that is taken seriously.

I had a far-distant relative to my namesake that was in the 'business' and there are enough crazies 'in' the business let alone outside of it to not just casually dismiss a 'negative side of neutrality' as something to not worry about. That will get you in more trouble than what it's worth. A bodyguard is paranoid throughout his assignment, physical laws deal with physical objects, being equipped is being prepared, etc., etc., etc. Profiling is part of it; enough to cast a subtle hint of suspicion. Not good.

I always take myself seriously and I would have guarded her with my life.
I see...but what does it have to do with all this? Does she have bodyguards walking around with her? Will a bodyguard of a celebrity study the things I say, during let's say a press conference or a fan convention before attacking me?

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Old 01-11-2008, 08:19 PM
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I see...but what does it have to do with all this? Does she have bodyguards walking around with her? Will a bodyguard of a celebrity study the things I say, during let's say a press conference or a fan convention before attacking me?
I wouldn't say, "before attacking me?"...as a viable analysis in proper context, if you don't mind my responding, it's more like in the case of, say, what a Joseph Conrad novel would relate that was published in 1907 called 'The Secret Agent,' wherein was a character by the name of Adoph Verlok that scouted out municipalities, countries, localities in order to pass on information of which area is safe or not for certain 'high-ranking officials' to travel to and to hold conferences; not really too hard to translate over to celebrities on this. This to relay what areas to 'avoid' and still conduct business. Even at the 'Alizée en concert' happenings there were most definitely arena ushers/attendants guarding the stage area but I wouldn't see it as a means of maintaining decorum and safety of the participants, both performers and the attending audience, to force the issue, so to speak. If she wants to go amongst the crowd shaking hands etc., so be it, that's up to her and all well and good. It makes for a pleasant evening and many memorable experiences. But that doesn't preclude the possibility like what happened at Atamont December 1969 with 300,000 in attendance and other such like occurences. My respects go out to those that maintain the security and the protection necessary, I work now with those that provided the security measures, in part, at the last Winter Olympics held in Utah. It's not an easy job, by any stretch of the imagination. Even at that, the exit plan for RF Kennedy was supposedly changed on the spur of the moment when at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles back in June 1968, and still,...that didn't work, either; regrettably.

The avoidance of conflict would be paramount.

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Old 01-11-2008, 08:36 PM
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I wouldn't say, "before attacking me?"...as a viable analysis in proper context, if you don't mind my responding, it's more like in the case of, say, what a Joseph Conrad novel would relate that was published in 1907 called 'The Secret Agent,' wherein was a character by the name of Adoph Verlok that scouted out municipalities, countries, localities in order to pass on information of which area is safe or not for certain 'high-ranking officials' to travel to and to hold conferences; not really too hard to translate over to celebrities on this. This to relay what areas to 'avoid' and still conduct business. Even at the 'Alizée en concert' happenings there were most definitely arena ushers/attendants guarding the stage area but I wouldn't see it as a means of maintaining decorum and safety of the participants, both performers and the attending audience, to force the issue, so to speak. If she wants to go amongst the crowd shaking hands etc., so be it, that's up to her and all well and good. It makes for a pleasant evening and many memorable experiences. But that doesn't preclude the possibility like what happened at Atamont December 1969 with 300,000 in attendance and other such like occurences. My respects go out to those that maintain the security and the protection necessary, I work now with those that provided the security measures, in part, at the last Winter Olympics held in Utah. It's not an easy job, by any stretch of the imagination. Even at that, the exit plan for RF Kennedy was supposedly changed on the spur of the moment when at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles back in June 1968, and still,...that didn't work, either; regrettably.

The avoidance of conflict would be paramount.
I understand the difficult on security issues...but what about the celebrities that don't have much security? Some of them had problems, but a lot of them don't. I say, is it really necessary this big preoccupation with security?
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I say, is it really necessary this big preoccupation with security?
A most definite YES!

The consequences of not having what you need when you need it, even if the probability of needing it is very small, far outweighs the price paid for security never needed.

It's the classic security dichotomy. If you do security so well that nothing ever happens it leads to a perception the security is not needed; all this security and it never gets used? The dichotomy is the reason you don't seem to need it is because you have it.
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I understand the difficult on security issues...but what about the celebrities that don't have much security? Some of them had problems, but a lot of them don't. I say, is it really necessary this big preoccupation with security?
Evidently. There was just a case recently that happened in Bozeman, Montana. A couple were sitting at a counter in a bistro in the downtown area and some drunk walks in off the street and strolls up to the girl and proceeds to beat her to a pulp right there in the lounge; no reason given. She needed plastic surgery to correct the mayhem. For all intends and purposes they never knew each other beforehand either. Don't ask me why people do what they do. That's been an ongoing question for some time.
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