Who was Olivier?

[Scruffydog777]

A few days ago, a picture was posted in here of Alizee apparently flipping her hair. I knew it looked familiar and said I thought it was from a magazine article, so I looked it up and it was from a 2002 article. The picture posted in the forum was from a picture where a gentleman was with her, but he was cropped out of the image posted in the forum.

I didn't post the original picture or the article because the pictures appeared to be taken by paparazzi.

Here's part of what it said.....
".......With her hit Moi... Lolita, she is forging for herself the image of a sultry adolescent. But in real life, Alizée is quite the opposite: a young girl rather reasonable, natural, and in love with the same boy for more than a year now. It was in August 2001, in the full whirlwind of success, that the Corsican brunette met Olivier, a student in Paris. A boy who has all the qualities with which to charm her: he's tender, attentive, and protective. In him, she has found an equilibrium. And when the singer is doing promotion in London or Madrid, she explodes her cell phone's calling plan to whisper sweet words into his ear. Despite a frenetic schedule, the couple is holding up well against winds and tides. A few months ago, Olivier even went to the island of beauty (where she lives) to meet the singer's parents.......".
Then a couple of daya ago, someone asked me about one of my videos of a game show she was on in Japan. So I watched the video again and in it she appears in the show with some gentleman. I always wondered who this guy was. It made no mention of who he was, but I thought he must be a celebrity, but I think now it was Olivier. It surprises me though that they'd have someone on the show who wasn't a star.

When she was being interviewed in Poland and got upset with the line of questioning, she asked to talk to Olivier I believe it was?

When ever I had heard the name Olivier in the past, I thought it was the name of one of her managers, but now it looks like it was just a name of her boyfriend who traveled with her on some of her tours and was probably someone she could confide in because I'm sure MF/LB didn't go on many of these trips.



https://youtu.be/pQAlCndX1cw?t=63

[Mr Coucou]

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777

When she was being interviewed in Poland and got upset with the line of questioning, she asked to talk to Olivier I believe it was?

Yeah, she asked for 'Olivier.'

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777

When ever I had heard the name Olivier in the past, I thought it was the name of one of her managers, but now it looks like it was just a name of her boyfriend who traveled with her on some of her tours and was probably someone she could confide in because I'm sure MF/LB didn't go on many of these trips.

Also, the lead guitarist in En Concert was named Olivier. (But I assume that's a different Olivier.)

[Bamagirl]

Thanks for posting this, Scruffydog. I know very little about Olivier, so this is a very interesting find.

[RedRafe]

Ok...

At 0:45 in the "video", Olivier, or whomsoever he is, is introduced as being her "manager".

My first "impression" of him, by his "bearing" and "manner" is that he was a "minder", as in a "bodyguard" or some sort of "personal security assistant"...

To me he "radiates" the impression that he is "ex-military", or at least ex-"paramilitary", maybe an ex-Cop or something, but my guess would be "military"...

Honestly, if I had to assign some of my guys from "days of yore", to a "protection detail" for Alizée, they'd be "clones" of this individual...

He doesn't look like any "student" that i've ever seen, except in a "military academy"...

Body language is "mixed", and "inconclusive", really. They are "familiar", but not maybe, emm, "intimate", if you know what I mean...

I don't really get the impression from this that they are a "couple", waayy toooo many "indicators" missing, but I would really need to see them together in a more "informal", "less stressful" situation, before I could really tell...

Reckon this one is her "manager"...

The "couple/romance" thing may just have been a "smokescreen" to discourage unwanted attention, for , if you think about it, it would be counterproductive to her career, her having a boyfriend, but, who knows, it may have been accurate, and they may have been a "couple"...

Hope they had "fun", anyhow, whoever, or whatever, this Olivier was...

No point, otherwise...

[Mr Coucou]

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777

When ever I had heard the name Olivier in the past, I thought it was the name of one of her managers, but now it looks like it was just a name of her boyfriend who traveled with her on some of her tours and was probably someone she could confide in because I'm sure MF/LB didn't go on many of these trips.

The chronology in the "Alizee art" website says that Oliver was her manager, and that the magazine article was wrong about the boyfriend thing.

I don't think the guy on the Japan game show could have been Alizee's boyfriend, because I doubt Mylene would have approved of a boyfriend being on the show.

[Fall]

I suppose there's reason to believe they were romantically involved, though perhaps *after* she came of age?

If I recall correctly, a member here, maybe Mon Maquis, had mentioned that after Alizée left MF/LB and went on her hiatus, Olivier was spotted supporting a different artist as a manager. I think it was Natasha St. Pier. I could have sworn I also saw pictures of these two together. For that reason I think it's fair to say that he really was her manager. Again, they may have been "involved" but perhaps only in private and for a short time.

[Scruffydog777]

Originally Posted by Fall

I suppose there's reason to believe they were romantically involved, though perhaps *after* she came of age?

If I recall correctly, a member here, maybe Mon Maquis, had mentioned that after Alizée left MF/LB and went on her hiatus, Olivier was spotted supporting a different artist as a manager. I think it was Natasha St. Pier. I could have sworn I also saw pictures of these two together. For that reason I think it's fair to say that he really was her manager. Again, they may have been "involved" but perhaps only in private and for a short time.

It might be interesting to put together a timeline of when there are either pictures or stories of her and Olivier.

"If I recall correctly, a member here, maybe Mon Maquis, had mentioned that after Alizée left MF/LB and went on her hiatus, Olivier was spotted supporting a different artist as a manager. I think it was Natasha St. Pier......"

I had never heard that about Natasha St-Pier.

As far as coming of age, I think in Alizée's own words, she came of age at 16.

One of the songs on her first album, Gourmandises, which the recording of was finished in September of 2000 was Lou ou Toi, which speaks of a relationship with 2 different men and from what I understand, this song was written from a story she related to Mylene Farmer.



Here a link to a video in my drive where I added French and English subtitles to this video. It needs to be improved on but I think it's pretty close. With he or him, she's referring to 2 different men or boys in the year before 2001.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17wG...ew?usp=sharing

[Fall]

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777

As far as coming of age, I think in Alizée's own words, she came of age at 16.

That's all good and well, but I think Olivier might have been 16 in the 80's

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777

I had never heard that about Natasha St-Pier.

Actually, you just posted about it:

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777

I was looking up some info today for another thread and I came across this section of the Alizée Bible that chronicles how the end went down as far as what the public saw.

20th December 2003: Concert at the “Parc des Expositions” at Reims. Alizée put contact lenses in that made her seem like she had blue eyes.

21st December 2003: A rumour beings (later confirmed by events) that the aim of Alizée Disc house (record company) is to stop the pomotion of “Mes courants électrique” and its singles. (Sources: moi-mylenefarmer.com (now inactive) & Un brin d'Alizée).

24th December 2003: A message appears on the official web page, which translates as “I wish you all have magnificent celebrations at the New Year. Hope to have new photos for you in the gallery. Until then, Alizée. Frankly, the message was expected to be warmer and more spirited. Therefore, the consensus was that this was the word of the Webmaster and not Alizée.

27th December 2003: Interview on the programme “Lollytop” on canal J at 18:30. There are glimpses here that she has a fiancée. The response to the questions regarding her third disc (album) is evasive and this begins a host of rumours on the supposed crisis with the record label, Myléne, a possible retirement of three months e.t.c. (see December 21st). These rumours create massive debate in the Alizée forum for several months (Source Un brin d'Alizée). There was also an appearance on the programme “Disques d’Or” on the TF1 channel at 20:50 hours. Alizée sung “A contre-courant”. (Source Un brin d'Alizée & Tinkalizée).

31st December 2003: Performance on "Les vainqueurs de l´année", on France2 at 21:05 hours. Alizée sings a medley, singing “Jen ai marre”, “Jai pas vingt ans” “A contre-courant” and “Moi…Lolita” (in this order) (Source: Un brin d'Alizée & Tinkalizée).

3rd January 2004: Interview on “Lollytop” on Canal J at 14:45 hours. This is the second part of the interview that took place on December the 27th of last year. (Source Tinkalizée)

9th January 2004: Report on “Tubissimo” on the M6 channel. (Source: Un brin d'Alizée & Tinkalizée)

14th January 2004: Performance on the “Zapping Zone” on the Disney Channel at 16:00 hours. Alizée sings “A contre-courant” (this needs verifying). (Source Alizée love & Tinkalizée).

17th January 2004: Today there was a concert in the “Zenith” at Paris. (Source Nidalizée) Which concluding what had been an exhausting tour. This concert is especially exciting, being the last one and unites many Alizée admirers from all around the globe, who had previously only been in contact via the forums. The concert is bittersweet, although not all the concerts were sold out (Homer feels this is due to the elevated number of concerts held in practically one country). It is necessary to honour the public (about 80,000) who did get to see Alizée and the fact that it was an exhausting tour in which time she only realised 2 singles.

18th January 2004: The beginning of the “Traversí del Desierto”, the travel through the wilderness begins for Alizée admirers who wait patiently for the third album. There has been more or less 3 years since her “break” until she started work in the studio on her 3rd album.

19th January 2004: Maxi Vinyl version of “Jai pas vingt ans” is published in Germany.

20th January 2004: Alizée takes a more than deserved holiday. Although it is suspended for an appearance on “Follement Gay” expected to be seen on the 30th January as well as participation in this years “Les Enfoires”.

23rd January 2004: Sale of the 5th edition of “Actualizé”. It is the first time it is sold on the newsstands and not just exclusively to subscribers, thus it sells many more. (Source Un brin d'Alizée)

24th January 2004: It is debated whether Alizée has signed a contract to do another album, and what type of album it is? (Source Un brin d'Alizée)
1st February 2004: There is a news article “La Séduction ca commence très tôt” on the programme “E=M6 spécial seduction” on M6 at 20:50 hours. (Source Un Brin d'Alizée)
2nd February 2004: “Mes courants électriques” exits the top 150 albums.

4th February 2004: Alizée interview on her website where she answers questions that has been sent to the site in previous months. (Source Un Brin d'Alizée)

9th February 2004: The magazine “Voici” brings news that Alizée plans to retire from the music industry for a period of three years. This unsurprisingly spreads alarm with Alizée fans. The article can be seen here. However in issue 853 they published a correction by universal stating that “Polydor”, in any meeting never considered nor decide to suspend the career of one of the most talented French singers”. (Source Journalizée No 83) However the reality is that with the long “travels trough the wilderness” (18th January) this info by universal is contradicted and “the Voici” information appears to be confirmed.

13th February 2004: Report on “Hit de diaments” on M6 classifying Alizée at 29th position with “Moi…Lolita”. (Source Un Brin d'Alizée & Tinkalizée)

16th February 2004: “A Contre-Courant leaves the top 100 singles chart. But it reaches 100,000 sales reaching the status of silver disc. All singles/albums have reached some catergory of sales with the exception of “J’ai pas vingt ans”.

17th February 2004: A news article on Alizée is shown on “Duels de stars” on M6 at 17:00 hours, although it was originally predicted to be shown on the 11th. In this programme there is a duel between Alizée and Lorie. Considering the sales of the respective songs Alizée wins with “Moi…Lolita” beating Lorie’s “Toute searle”. (Source Un Brin d'Alizée)

22nd February 2004: It is known now that Alizée’s manager, Olivier will take care of other singers like Natasha St. Pier. (Source moi-mylenefarmer.com (now inactive))

23rd February 2004: The magazine “Voici” well known for its criticism of Alizée announces that Alizée married Jéremy on the 6th of November while they were in Las Vegas. The forums go into overdrive, with many fans gutted and announcing their abandonment of Alizée. The news of her marriage seem not to please almost anybody. This was due to two reasons. Firstly because of the chosen man and secondly in the way they did it, in Las Vegas. It appears there is a valid marriage certificate from the Las Vegas ceremony. This does not make it legal in France, since it must be confirmed legally in France and it is not known whether this has happened. Homer prescribes to the souveneir theory with regards to the marriage, believing that they did it as a joke and as a memory of their trip to Las Vegas.

1st March 2004: “Jen ai marre” reaches number 1 in Taiwan.

8th March 2004: “Mes courants électriques” goes on sale priced at 9.99 Euros and reaches number 21 in the charts for midpriced music.

15th March 2004: “Voici” publish a rectification of the information given on 9th of February and the rupturing relationship between Alizée and Universal. Universal exercised their right to reply to the allegations by writing a note to the magazine stating that there has never been a meeting to deal with Alizée, to stop her singing and prevent her from evolving artistically.

17th March 2004: Rémo Buffin (lead vocalist in Alizé) decides to demand an explanation from Alizée and Universal as the similarity in names gave rise to confusion in record stores and when establishing concerts. Alizé registered their name in 1996, 4 years before Alizée appeared on the music scene.

3rd April 2004: Broadcast of the programme “101 sozies” in which famous people are imitated. Céline imitates Alizée singing “L’Alizé” and finishes in 77th position. (Source Un brin d'Alizée)

[alerizzi89]

As you all already mentioned, Olivier was Alizée's first manager until 2004. He was thanked publicly during the M6 Awards by Alizée herself and on the credits of "Mes Courants Electriques" album...

Some gossip newspaper reported him to be her boyfriend at the time. I guess we will never know if he was something more than a manager for Alizée!

"Merci à Olivier pour sa complicité".

[Scruffydog777]

It still puzzles me that Olivier as described in the article I quoted in my opening post was a college student in 2001 when he met Alizee. How does he get from there, with no experience, to being Alizee's manager and then possibly the manager of Natasha St-Pier in 2004?

Maybe manager was just a title of convenience so she could bring him on tour.