Alizée's Tattoos

[BrianO1]

Originally Posted by HelixSix

Tattoo parlors aren't the best place to meet people that will improve your life constructivly...

What's wrong with tattoo parlors?

It seems like a lot of you have a very old fashioned view on tattoos. The idea that tattoo parlors are dark, grimy, hell holes full of thugs and low lives...just is not true. Now sure, there are some places like that. But Most of them are very nice. Most of the parlors downtown where I live, are BEAUTIFUL on the inside. Well light, great interior, CLEAN and the artists are really nice, and cool to talk to.


As for the people who go there....times have changed. As I said...it's not bikers and gang members, plenty of everyday people, hard working, good people, go to these places. The kinds of people you would meet at a tattoo shop are the same people you could meet anywhere else.


But honestly, it really doesn't matter if we like or dislike the tattoos...if she wants more, she will get more.


And like Helixsix and others have said, there are A LOT of worse things she could be doing. So if at the end of the day, the WORST news we get about Alizée is that she's getting a new tattoo.....we should be thankful.

[HelixSix]

Originally Posted by BrianO1

But honestly, it really doesn't matter if we like or dislike the tattoos...if she wants more, she will get more.

Well I've seen too many girls think they were doing harmless things only to regret them later on. And so far Alizée has done two of the most permanent things possible; having a kid at young age and getting tattoo's. I don't endorse drugs but at least they can be temporary.

I've had the view about her music that you have about her tattoo's since it's her choice. After being bossed around by Mylene for years I'm glad she wanted to make her own music even if it was bad since she could learn from it or go in a different direction. Other people found it hard to sit by and watch the mostly mediocre music and so they spoke up, mostly out of concern for her career. But it's different for me now because all these tattoo's can have an effect on her upcoming album and her life. Maybe the tattoo's won't distract from the image being portrayed in the music but I doubt it and I doubt the suits up in management are happy with what she is doing.

Let's fast forward 12-18 months from now. The album meant to revive her career is sunk because of her evolving identity crisis, her "marriage" was a bust, nobody wants to hire her, and the only good thing to come out of it all was her daughter which can be argued was a result of young love foolishness in the first place. It's possible.

[WhiteFeather]

Originally Posted by HelixSix

Well I've seen too many girls think they were doing harmless things only to regret them later on. And so far Alizée has done two of the most permanent things possible; having a kid at young age and getting tattoo's. I don't endorse drugs but at least they can be temporary.

I've had the view about her music that you have about her tattoo's since it's her choice. After being bossed around by Mylene for years I'm glad she wanted to make her own music even if it was bad since she could learn from it or go in a different direction. Other people found it hard to sit by and watch the mostly mediocre music and so they spoke up, mostly out of concern for her career. But it's different for me now because all these tattoo's can have an effect on her upcoming album and her life. Maybe the tattoo's won't distract from the image being portrayed in the music but I doubt it and I doubt the suits up in management are happy with what she is doing.

Let's fast forward 12-18 months from now. The album meant to revive her career is sunk because of her evolving identity crisis, her "marriage" was a bust, nobody wants to hire her, and the only good thing to come out of it all was her daughter which can be argued was a result of young love foolishness in the first place. It's possible.

Few things:

1. Tattoos are a personal choice. To quote the Diff'rent Strokes theme (), "The world don't move to the beatin' of just one drum. What be right for you, may not be right for some". Just because you think they are a bad choice doesn't make it so for everyone else. Besides there are plenty of tattooed artists out there.

2. While taking drugs might be temporary, the effects can be permanent.

3. Where is everyone getting this "identity crisis" from? She's hanging out with friends, having a good time, doing what she wants. She got a couple of tattoos. SO WHAT? Unless I'm mistaken, that doesn't seem to be the M.O. of someone who is going through a crisis. To me she's living life.

[Euphoria]

Originally Posted by BrianO1

What's wrong with tattoo parlors?

It seems like a lot of you have a very old fashioned view on tattoos. The idea that tattoo parlors are dark, grimy, hell holes full of thugs and low lives...just is not true. Now sure, there are some places like that. But Most of them are very nice. Most of the parlors downtown where I live, are BEAUTIFUL on the inside. Well light, great interior, CLEAN and the artists are really nice, and cool to talk to.


As for the people who go there....times have changed. As I said...it's not bikers and gang members, plenty of everyday people, hard working, good people, go to these places. The kinds of people you would meet at a tattoo shop are the same people you could meet anywhere else.


But honestly, it really doesn't matter if we like or dislike the tattoos...if she wants more, she will get more.


And like Helixsix and others have said, there are A LOT of worse things she could be doing. So if at the end of the day, the WORST news we get about Alizée is that she's getting a new tattoo.....we should be thankful.

To me, your job is irrelevant when you have tattoos. I absolutely DON'T think tattoos make you a "bad" person, but I think it shows rather...questionable judgment. I consider tattoos to be graffiti on your body, not "art." If you love art, buy a freaking painting or something. It's odd to me that people would rather wear something on their body that they wouldn't hang in their house. I'm no psychologist, but every person I've known with tattoos had low self esteem.

[Junkmale]

It's all just personal choice and we should respect each individuals choice.
I have tattoo's. I don't have a problem with anyone who doesn't.
I don't think having a tattoo is a signal of anything underlying.
If anyone wants to get one or two or ten it's their choice, their body.
There are worse things in life...much worse.
It's not really much of a big deal these days.

[pepelepew]

Originally Posted by Euphoria

To me, your job is irrelevant when you have tattoos. I absolutely DON'T think tattoos make you a "bad" person, but I think it shows rather...questionable judgment. I consider tattoos to be graffiti on your body, not "art." If you love art, buy a freaking painting or something. It's odd to me that people would rather wear something on their body that they wouldn't hang in their house. I'm no psychologist, but every person I've known with tattoos had low self esteem.

I agree with your points Euphoria. At the very least it is in many cases a cry for attention and probably a discontent with a persons body via a need to improve or change it through tattooing. To the extreme a form of self mutilation and or serious rebelllion. Although the culture of tattoo's has changed drastically in the past few years, I think in most cases the motives are the same as when it was a sign of trashy or rebellious nature/cult of personality.I also agree that in most cases it is a sure sign of poor self esteem/self respect. There are exceptions to almost every rule, so those of you with tattoo's that are on this forum will have to evaluate your motives and I in no way can say that all tattoo'ed individuals fit into any of these categories.It is just that if you walk like a duck, quack like a duck then you are probably a duck. I think Alizee is a duck or at least makes a lot of duck face photo's lol!

[SpanishFan]

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I'm no psychologist, but every person I've known with tattoos had low self esteem.

Maybe, but people with high self esteem and with egos the size of a stadium like olimpic champions, nba players, rappers, proffesional soldiers, etc... they also have tattoos...

I won't judge people with tattoos or their reasons to have them, my problem with Alizée's tattoos is that I frankly find them quite laughable today, and they will look even worst in the future...
It is not a case of having a rose, an eagle, or the name of your daughter tattooed on your skin, we are talking about Disney characters and Sailor Moon...

I bet she is happy with them, but she is ruining a little bit my view of her as an icon. It is a cliché, but the cute tiny and classy french woman like Audrey Hepburn was a perfect example of style and elegance...
I can not really say that Alizée is classy in that same level anymore...

She had the music and the looks at some point. The music is not the same and the looks... she is not taking good decisions from a proffesional point of view...
I can not see for example any important magazine calling her for a big photoshoot with nice dresses... thanks to Sailor moon in her shoulder and whatever she does next.

The good thing is that if her new album is better than the last two, all this tattoo histories won't matter that much.

[Azhiri]

Originally Posted by SpanishFan

She had the music and the looks at some point. The music is not the same and the looks... she is not taking good decisions from a proffesional point of view...
I can not see for example any important magazine calling her for a big photoshoot with nice dresses... thanks to Sailor moon in her shoulder and whatever she does next.

This is what I'm worried about. It might not seem like a big deal but the tattoos can hurt promotion for this very reason. If she decided to cover them up, it would cost extra money/time/materials to conceal the tattoos with makeup or photoshop them out. This makes me wonder how seriously she is taking her career as a singer/performer at this point, because unless she plans to incorporate the multitude of tattoos into a new image for the album, this could fare badly for promotion or even public rep.