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Old 02-19-2021, 09:02 AM
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Old 02-20-2021, 02:25 PM
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Thanks for posting this, Ben.Daly! I really liked listening to it, and I was wondering if there was a video of it. I checked on YouTube but couldn't find anything, so I contacted Scuffydog. I figured if it was out there, he would know about it! He did have it, and he generously shared it with me, so I downloaded it and I am including a link to it here from my Google Drive. I think Alizée did a very good job with the song.


http://drive.google.com/file/d/16fxZ...ew?usp=sharing


After watching the video, I was wondering more about the song and the show, and I did some research and found out some information concerning what went on between Alizée and Jenifer.


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From Wikipedia about the song and the show:

"La vie par procuration" is a song by Jean-Jacques Goldman which became a hit single in 1986. It was recorded originally for the album Non homologué that was released in 1985. However it was a live version of the recording during a concert and made available through the live Jean-Jacques Goldman album En public that became a commercial hit, staying 21 weeks in the French Singles Chart making it to number 2 in December 1986. It was certified gold in 1987 with reported 500,000 copies sold."

"The show 'Samedi Soir on Chante':"

"Samedi Soir on Chante (literally Saturday Evening We Sing) is a French musical television and radio program hosted by Estelle Denis, directed by Pascal Duchêne and broadcast simultaneously on the television channel TF1 and the radio stations RFM (first episode) and RTL (second episode).

"The concept of the pre-recorded program, written by Fabrice Clerté, sees a semi-regular troupe of sixteen relatively young yet more or less established singers such as Emmanuel Moire, Corneille and Tal performing over the course of two hours covers of songs written and/or sung by a major French star from an older generation in front of a live studio audience and occasionally accompanied by guest stars, thus potentially reintroducing them to a younger crowd."

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Controversies

"The program has been accused by some of being a thinly-veiled promotional machine aimed at selling recently released albums. Indeed, the first episode, centered on Jean-Jacques Goldman, aired two months after the release of the compilation cover album Génération Goldman and featured many of its singers, such as Amel Bent, Corneille, Emmanuel Moire, Florent Mothe, M. Pokora, Shy'm and Tal, but more importantly the second episode, centered on France Gall, was viewed by many as being nothing more than a giant commercial for Jenifer's France Gall cover album Ma Déclaration, which came out two days after the episode's airing.

"In addition, some singers of Génération Goldman, such as Leslie and Marie-Mai were offended at not being invited to participate in the program with Leslie later accusing TF1 of playing favorites with her contemporaries.

"As for the artists the show aims to pay homage to, France Gall was particularly angered, as she was with Jenifer's cover album, calling the program "cheap" in an interview with Le Parisien and regretting that she wasn't consulted or even invited to participate."

Note not by Wikipedia: Jenifer appeared in the first 2 of the 4 shows, but did not appear after the 2nd show which was the France Gall show.

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Old 02-20-2021, 03:13 PM
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Thank you.

Unfortunately the audio and video are out of sync; the audio lags the video.

Is the original recording available?

In the first seconds of the video a .ts filename is visible, so this video is re-encoded.
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Old 02-20-2021, 04:30 PM
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Thank you.

Unfortunately the audio and video are out of sync; the audio lags the video.

Is the original recording available?

In the first seconds of the video a .ts filename is visible, so this video is re-encoded.
Try this one. I think the only thing that seems to be out of sync is Amel Bent!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rHU...ew?usp=sharing
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:51 PM
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Wow, I was actually looking for the video of this cover! Thanks to all of you who brought up the matter.

Her voice is unusually "strong" here.
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Old 02-20-2021, 08:04 PM
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Wow, I was actually looking for the video of this cover! Thanks to all of you who brought up the matter.

Her voice is unusually "strong" here.
It is strong. It was a great match for her voice.
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Here is an interview where France Gall talks about Jenifer doing a cover album of her songs.
It is in French. Here is the link and a translation:

http://www.bfmtv.com/people/musique/...306110088.html

FRANCE GALL: "JENIFER TELLS STORIES", UNIVERSAL DEFENDS ITSELF
The 06/11/2013 at 8:28 |
Tributes, covers: France Gall settles its accounts - -

In an interview with "Parisien", the singer explains her anger at cover albums - the latest one is that of Jenifer - recorded without her permission.
Jenifer's album certainly broke the camel's back. Singer France Gall , 65, confides her fed up in an interview with Le Parisien on Tuesday.

Michel Berger's muse explains, without concession, that she does not appreciate these tributes - in the form of albums or televised shows - which take up his repertoire without asking his opinion or his agreement.

"Jenifer tells stories"

Singer Jenifer, who has just released an album of covers from France Gall , takes it for her grade. "Jenifer is promoting her album of covers of my songs, which she produced in secret, without my consent. We cannot oppose this kind of project as long as the melody and the lyrics are not changed" , explains France Gall.

Before adding, visibly angry with the winner of the first season of Star Academy: "She tells stories. She says that I am difficult to reach. (...) She says that I know, that I 'approves and she has my endorsement. And that annoys me. "

As for knowing if she listened to the album, France Gall replied clearly: "They did not even send it to me and I do not intend to go buy it".

"It's like I'm dead"

The singer claims not to have been made aware of the project and to have learned about it through the Internet.

"I said to myself: 'It's incredible, it's as if I was dead," "she explains to the Parisian . "I am not against this kind of project but I would have liked to know it. I am here to defend my music and that of Michel", continues the singer, who considers that her repertoire has been "looted".

"Collapsed" by a revival of Lââm

France Gall is not her first setbacks with the covers since already in 1998, the reinterpretation of "Singing for those who are far from home" by Lââm , had "collapsed". "She sold 1 million. Everyone loved it. But ending in rap, that's not possible."

For the "Wax doll, doll of her" Jenifer version, France Gall is not more tender: "It's weird, my voice is missing", she points out.

Universal defends Jenifer

In a statement, the record company Universal took the defense of Jenifer assuring that the singer had "tried to obtain support from France Gall (...) without succeeding."

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Here is a link to when Alizée played a joke on Jenifer with a prank call, early in their careers.

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Well we had heard in the past that Alizée was upset with Jenifer for her France Gall cover album. Now this sheds some more light on what happened and it certainly looks like there were a lot of other people upset with Jenifer.
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What an excellent video!
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