The Alizée Hub [girlpop.hopto.me]

[Finnishguy]

It's ok now, I just needed some confirm to log to hub. Now I'm there

[digimaze]

Originally Posted by Finnishguy

It's ok now, I just needed some confirm to log to hub. Now I'm there

As a wise man once said: "When in doubt. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS." The security bot posts a warning to all unregistered users every time they enter the hub that the Alizee Hub is a private hub and you must REGISTER to participate. Most issues can be resolved by reading my FAQ at the start of this thread, so I'm not going to re-post it here again.

Suffice it to say if you ask for help, you will receive it: as you discovered as I spent nearly two hours with you resolving your various issues until I felt you were connected to the hub properly.

Naturally the time I can dedicate to tech support to an individual hubber is limited, so more advanced issues like increasing your speed, multi-sourcing, etc. are best left to my FAQ and the many tutorials available on the web.

I'm glad you're connected now and I hope you enjoy your stay at the hub.

[Finnishguy]

Originally Posted by digimaze

As a wise man once said: "When in doubt. READ THE INSTRUCTIONS."

And wise men have problem that they haven't common sense.

I'm used to choose easiest way, and since I'm used DC just very little, and english isn't very easy for me, I chose that way. I thought that I can lose nothing if I try.

Anyway, it's ok now, thank you!

[digimaze]

Wow... a lot to answer here:

1) POPASIA is NOT my hub though I pull enough weight to allow you guys in that hub for a few days so you can sort your connection out. I explained that policy in my post regarding our "sister hub" earlier in this thread. I even have a second nick with an active connection ("Eza-migid") so passive users can grab all that Alizee goodness from me. BUT.... the rules of the POPASIA Hub is that you need 1GB of Asian stuff to stay in that hub, and the agreement I have with the hub owner is you guys (and girls) can stay for a "few days" without that asian stuff. With 3TB hard drives out there, it wouldn't kill anyone to drop 1GB of asian files in your share to be in TWO hubs, would it? There's a "Golden Age of Korean Pop" going on (10,000 French fans turned out at Paris Bercy to see Girls Generation and others perform on February 8th) so it's a fun change of pace. Alizee won't mind. She would say "download whatever you like, just as long as you love me the most."

2) Lillypad had the EXACT SAME rules as the Alizee Hub does: the only differance is they allowed copyrighted material (like the En Concert DVD and mp3 rips of her albums). Not only do I consider that disrespectful to Alizee, but that's the exact policy that's getting other file-sharing sites shut down all over the world. Next year the Alizee Hub celebrates it's tenth anniversary. It would be unfortunate if we didn't make it because some knucklehead got us shut down by sharing copyrighted material.

Anyways I hope that answers the concerns expressed to me. The main rules of the hub are simple: just keep your posts in main chat polite and respectful to others (one guy called us the "Love Hub"), don't share copyrighted material, and try to spend some serious online time to share what you've gotten with others. "Sharing is caring" says Mr. T at the POPASIA Hub.

Well that's about it and I hope to see you all at the hub!

digi

[Scruffydog777]

Well I finally got my connectivity issue resolved with DC hub, thanks mostly to Tomtemps post #6. Now I have to figure out how to find Alizee files. Now if you click on hubs, you get a list of many hubs around the world; the biggest ones seem to be Russian. Are all these hubs safe to go to?

From what I'm reading in the instructions, if you want to go to a hub, you can either just click on it, or you can do it by adding it as a favorite and filling out the entries for it. When you connect with the hub, an admin will check out your stuff and if he's happy, give you a password. Is this right?

Is there a way you can search these hubs for Alizee music before directly connecting witht them? I connected with a few of the Russian hubs, because they seem to be the biggest and some give instructions in English, but most seem to be in Russian.

[User22]

Do you want to connect to the Alizée hub? Cause that is a much safer option since none of their stuff is copyrighted except TV appearances obviously.

If you go into other hubs, there is no guarantee it will get shutdown and you'll start getting tracked from downloading from them. This is cause most of the popular ones have TBs and TBs of copyrighted material.

[digimaze]

You won't find our hub on any hub list because we are a private hub and we don't promote the hub outside of the Alizee forums, otherwise like any other private hub you must be invited.

When you enter the hub you'll select your own password actually, and further up in the thread you'll find instructions for "Auto-login" which simplifies things once you're registered.

No, public hubs are plagued with poor control over content, and there are no consequences for a selfish person who doesn't want to share. The Alizee Hub as a matter of fact was filled with warez, porn, pirated games and rips of Alizee's entire CD catalog back in the days it was a public hub.

But private hubs, however can be heavily moderated and as a result are small and focused and seem more like a "Club" than an anonymous peer-to-peer file sharing service.

No one wants to get shut down, which is why some sites like Youtube will delete files clearly in the public domain just to be on the "'safe side." Many times just ONE COMPLAINT from anyone is enough to get a clip pulled. This attitude has had a chilling effect on the ability of Alizee fans everywhere to share their creative work and hopefully the Internet Gods will eventually calm down and more reasonable minds will prevail. Meanwhile, you've got the hub.

I hope this answers your questions and we'll be looking forward to seeing you in the hub!

digi

[Scruffydog777]

I finally figured out how to connect to the different hubs after going back and reading through all the lines of instructions. Funny how that works. Thanks for all the help from everybody. When I joined the Alizee hub, somebody was uploading one of my files. I was waiting to see how long it would take, so I figured I would play some freecell while waiting and I couldn't believe the choppiness I was having with that and it was just one upload. When I can find the time, I do a little bit of gaming (BF3) and I can imagine what problems it would cause with that.

I think what I will do is I have an older desktop that I use on rare occassions. I'll set that one up, with the hub. Hook it up to my router and leave it on all the time if it doesn't cause me any lag issues.

Hopefully I can now get a higher res version of a couple of files I need to finish out my video.

[digimaze]

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777

Well I finally got the DC++ hub connection resolved and tried it out as far as downloading. Somebody was uploading one of my files. I was waiting to see how long it would take, so I figured I would play some freecell while waiting and I couldn't believe the choppiness I was having with that and it was just one upload. When I can find the time, I do a little bit of gaming (BF3) and I can imagine what problems it would cause with that.

I think what I do is I have an older desktop that I use on rare occassions. I'll set that one up, with the hub. Hook it up to my router and leave it on all the time if it doesn't cause me any lag issues.

Hopefully I can now get a higher res version of a couple of files I need to finish out my video.

That's a great idea! I have an older computer (not that much older, just a slower CPU and filled with hard drives) that I use as a file server for the hub. My newer rig is what I play games on. Having a computer that handles your online downloads is not only the best idea in a pure bandwidth perspective, but by limiting file sharing across your network you can assure yourself that the various little "bugs" that you can pick up from trolling the internet for Alizee treats doesn't spread across the rest of your system. Don't ever retire a computer until it reaches the "doorstop" category!

Be sure and stay online long enough to get registered. You paid us a visit at 6AM my time and I was still firmly attached to my pilllow!

THe hub has it's own culture so to speak and the two factors that build up your reputation within the hub is:

1) the amount of time you spend online, and
2) your posts containing new content in main chat.

We have two of the most active chatrooms in the dc++ world and one of our goals is to make sure that every Alizee Hubber gets the latest files as quickly as possible. Since you only have access to the chat that was posted while you are actually online, I and the people that moderate main chat (currently pepon66 and Lebanencheg) try to make sure that the newer content is frequently re-posted until we're sure that everyone has it. I save all major posts as a textfile, so if you took a little "vacation" from the hub just PM me and I'll try to shoot you a list as soon as I'm back in front of my computer.

The reverse is also true: if you find something that you don't think is being shared by the hub at that moment, by all means POST IT in main chat. That way we can make sure it finds it's way into as many hands as possible.

[digimaze]

If you didn't pay attention to the notice of a change in our domain name that started this thread, now's the time to do so:


"alizee.myftp.org" will no longer work. You will no longer be forwarded to the hub.

The correct address for the Alizee Hub is: "girlpop.hopto.me."

If you have problems connecting to the hub make sure your settings reflect the current address. The instructions for making the settings change are at
the very start of this thread.