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Old 08-24-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default The Fifty // Sixty lyrics, translation, theme, explanation, and interpretation thread

I thought that a lot of people would benefit from easily being able to access the literary analysis that many of us have done, and though this is all buried in the Fifty // Sixty thread, it's easier to find things at the top. I'm going to continue work on these things, and any contributions are welcome. Note that this thread should not be for discussing the single, but rather the aspects of the lyrics instead.

I'd especially welcome help with the starred lines, I don't quite understand what relevance they have. Additionally, why is the song title Fifty // Sixty so important? Where the fifties and sixties the duration of the relationship?

Also, note that any interpretations made in this are from the point of view of this song.

I'm still trying to improve everything here, but if you must grab it and post it somewhere else, please make sure that you always give credit where credit is due. Those who worked so hard to help are:

Cindy
espire
mAfqA
Deepwaters
Toc De Mac
RMJ
(if I've forgotten you, let me know!)


Fifty // Sixty lyrics, transcribed by Cindy and anonymous

Pretty sixteen,
Belle héroïne des sixties,
Tu te dandines,
T'es divine,
Quand tu danses,
Dans les yeux d'Andy...

Adieu bebop,
Plus au top,
C'est le pop-art,
Qui te sape,
À la trappe,
Pop-corn et hula hoop...

Rêve de gloire et de fortune,
Chic en Chanel, amour et toujours glamour,
Aux expos tu poses et t'exposes,
À 400ASA tu oses toutes les poses...

Fifty sixty,
Né en cinquante,
Sexy soixante,
Si excitante,
S’extasie
Candide elle croit, tout ce qu’Andy,
Qu'Andy dit d'elle,
Qu’elle est la plus belle
De toutes les modeles...

Comme une icône,
Sous le Nikon tu tournes,
La tête au velvet et Nico
Te voudrais, loin de Lou Reed
À East Village
On est tous jeune
Emmene moi, taxi jaune
La d'où vient la légende

Rêve de gloire et de fortune,
Chic en Chanel, amour sera toujours glamour,
Je te regarde en polaroid,
Tu sais le temps n'a pas pris une ride

Fifty sixty,
Né en cinquante,
Sexy soixante,
Si excitante,
S’extasie
Candide elle croit, tout ce qu'on dit
Ce qu'on dit d'elle
Qu’elle est la plus belle
De tout les modeles...

Le flower power est mort sur le dance floor
L'electro, le pop n'existe pas encore
Avec l'age de rocker, on a changé d'époque
Le rock roule en roller, la pop est en cloque

Le flower power est mort de sa belle mort
New wave et techno n'existent pas encore
Vas-y joue le ton dernier role, n'est plus la modele
Mais tu danses encore dans les yeux d'Andy

Fifty sixty,
Né en cinquante,
Sexy soixante,
Si excitante,
S’extasie
Candide elle croit, tout ce qu'on dit
Ce qu'on dit d'elle
Qu’elle est la plus belle
(La plus belle)

Fifty sixty,
Né en cinquante,
Sexy soixante,
Si excitante,
S’extasie
Candide elle croit, tout ce qu'on dit
Ce qu'on dit d'elle
Qu’elle est la plus belle
de tous les modeles...


Fifty // Sixty, translated by espire, with help from Toc De Mac and RMJ

Pretty Sixteen
Beauty of the sixties
The way you move, you're divine
When you dance
In Andy's eyes

Goodbye bebop,
On the top,
It's pop-art,
That runs you down,
To the trap,
Popcorn and hula hoops

Dream of glory and fortune,
Chic in Chanel, love is always glamourous,
For exposures you pose and expose yourself,
In 400ASA you dare every pose...

Fifty sixty
Born in the fifties
Sexy sixty
So excited
She's in ecstasy
Foolishly she believes all that Andy
That Andy tells her
That she's the most beautiful
Of all the models...

Like an icon,
You turn by the Nikon
The head on the velvet and Nico
Wants you far away from Lou Reed
In East Village, New York
We're all young
Take me with you, yellow taxi
To the place of your legend

Dream of fame and fortune,
Chic in Chanel, love will always be glamourous,
I look you in polaroid,
You know that time hasn't changed a thing

Fifty sixty
Born in the fifties
Sexy sixty
So excited
She's in ecstasy
Foolishly she believes all that we say
What we say about her,
That she's the most beautiful
Of all the models...

Flower power died on the dance floor
Electronic and punk exist no more
With the age of rock, time was changed
Rock rolls on rollers, pop's been knocked

Flower power died a good death
New wave and techno exist no more
Go play your last role, no longer the model
Yet you still dance in Andy's eyes

Fifty sixty
Born in the fifties
Sexy sixty
So excited
She's in ecstasy
Foolishly she believes all that we say
What we say about her,
That she's the most beautiful
(The most beautiful)

Fifty sixty
Born in the fifties
Sexy sixty
So excited
She's in ecstasy
Foolishly she believes, all that we say
What we say about her,
That she's the most beautiful
Of all the models...


Fifty // Sixty's theme, by mAfqA, Deepwaters, and espire

This song is about Andy Warhol, an artist in film, photography, and many other aspects, and his relationship with Edith "Edie" Sedgwick. She was featured in many of Andy's short films, and he called her his "superstar." They were often seen together. Edie Sedgwick was born in 1943, which would make her sixteen years old in 1959. A movie called "Factory Girl" was made, portraying the relationship between the two. It shows how Andy Warhol promised to make her a star, her rise to fame, and her eventual descent into obscurity.
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:39 PM
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Mylène seriously neglected Alizée late in the Mes courants électriques era, and Alizée became forgotten by most.
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Mylène seriously neglected Alizée late in the Mes courants électriques era, and Alizée became forgotten by most.

I feel that we shouldn't cause any upset for any Mylene fans here as they can be very over protective. Well atleast until we truly know the facts.
I'm just trying to help you out espire.
Anyway Alizée is showing us her true artistic talent in this song, it's quite ingenious of her, so STFU to all the naysayers!
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So this song is a way for Alizee to express her displeasure with Mylene Farmer? Thought they were tight, hmmm little do we know. Guess there was alot of friction there and maybe jealousy between the two

I bet it all stems from that "baby farmer" tag Alizee couldn't escape from so what better way to escape from it than to drop Mylene Farmer from the team.

Mylene and Alizee had a bit of a falling out and the song is the result. This is sad and very enlightening. Thanks Espire! you the man! It all makes perfect sense now

This is typical of mentor and student...it happens people. What we got here is a little catfight between two women, lol

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Thanks for the info guys
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You know, I think it's worth pointing out that "Andy" may also serve as a potential reference to Laurent. Mylène and Alizée weren't the only two in the "JBG" team.
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Well, I must admit that this opinion comes from the song, from Alizée herself.
I overlooked that small detail, well I believe your analysis is correct.
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Well, I must admit that this opinion comes from the song, from Alizée herself.
That's kind of circular. It's assuming the song really is about Mylene and Alizee, which may seem obvious to us but could be a case of interpretation bias. It's based on an assumption. Take that away and the whole meaning changes.

Besides, according to another rumor Alizee doesn't want to sing songs filled with double meanings anymore, so a cigar could just be a cigar and a song about Edie Sedgwick could just be a song about Edie Sedgwick. It wouldn't be the first. As Kozmo on MFI pointed out, "it joins the likes of Velvet Underground, Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians, and The Cult with tribute songs about her."

Not that I think you're necessarily wrong, I dunno. It just seems strange to justify a conclusion reached by the interpretation of a song with that same interpretation.

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You're right that it doesn't HAVE TO be about Alizée's and Mylene's relationship, but imo there are too many parallels that can be drawn between the lyrics and Alizée for it to be just a coincidence. The way the text is written makes it seem very intentional.
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