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BrianO1
05-29-2012, 03:37 PM
We can tweet her all day about our displeasure but, this might just force her into seclusion once again. I would hate more to see her stop communicating with us altogether. :mad:
This is a very good point that everyone should keep in mind.
And also please everyone, whether you or posting for or against the tattoos let's keep things respectful. :D
Euphoria
05-29-2012, 03:38 PM
I noticed it also on the video. There's one below the sailor moon tattoo and now the one above the Annily tattoo. It's interesting to note that she didn't post any picture of these two new tats unlike the "Forever young" and "Sailor moon" tats. Maybe she's knows a lot of her fans don't like them that's why she stopped posting them.
That's what I'm worried about. We know she likes tattoos. I think she's going to get them no matter what we think or say. We can tweet her all day about our displeasure but, this might just force her into seclusion once again. As much as I hate those tattoos and would like to tell her to stop, I would hate more to see her stop communicating with us altogether. :mad:
I don't think she'd do that. Yeah she might stop posting tattoo pics, but not being seen online and in the media would be suicide for her next album.
Jake04
05-29-2012, 03:47 PM
I've never been happy about the tattoos either but now I'm starting to worry about how many she's been getting in such a short frame of time. Is that healthy?
We know she's been under a lot of stress lately. We know that she's been having marital problems and her new album is definitely putting a lot of stress on her as well as she knows this could be her last shot.
If this is her way of dealing with the tremendous pressures in her life, then I guess we should be more supportive of her. I mean, don't tell her we "love" her new tattoos as this might just encourage her to get more but, just don't be critical about it either.
Scruffydog777
05-29-2012, 04:02 PM
It wont be suicide for her next album, but it will set her specialness apart. She was a woman of incredible beauty, but she has completely lost that. I think she is incredibly stupid, when it comes to her career. She made the bad decision to leave MF/LB. She made the bad decision with Psych to not to dance, to wear Walmart dresses, to show up on stage wearing sneakers. She made the decision with UEDS to go off in a different direction. If it succeded, she would have looked like a genius, but it failed, and she looked like a fool.
But as I predicted, she got more taoos. The thing that was so much an appeal of fans is gone. The great music of LB is gone. The great lyrics of MF is gone. She is a shell of her former self. She needs to hang out with dancerman, because nobody else will want anythng to do with her anymore.
Bigdan
05-29-2012, 04:08 PM
http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/16/87/52/41/tatoua10.jpg
Not new. :dance:
It's the bird.
Euphoria
05-29-2012, 04:22 PM
It wont be suicide for her next album, but it will set her specialness apart. She was a woman of incredible beauty, but she has completely lost that. I think she is incredibly stupid, when it comes to her career. She made the bad decision to leave MF/LB. She made the bad decision with Psych to not to dance, to wear Walmart dresses, to show up on stage wearing sneakers. She made the decision with UEDS to go off in a different direction. If it succeded, she would have looked like a genius, but it failed, and she looked like a fool.
But as I predicted, she got more taoos. The thing that was so much an appeal of fans is gone. The great music of LB is gone. The great lyrics of MF is gone. She is a shell of her former self. She needs to hang out with dancerman, because nobody else will want anythng to do with her anymore.
I'm saying it would be suicide to not be seen in the public eye. Twitter is a great way to do that.
BrianO1
05-29-2012, 04:25 PM
Not new. :dance:
It's the bird.
ugh! I told you mirror images mess me up! :p what about the thing near sailor moons foot, is that new? It may just be a shadow. If its just a shadow, then sorry for the false alarm :p
Bigdan
05-29-2012, 04:26 PM
... She was a woman of incredible beauty, but she has completely lost that. .
I can't be agree with this.:no:
ugh! I told you mirror images mess me up! :p what about the thing near sailor moons foot, is that new?
Nobody can tell. ( even on Alizee-France)
BrianO1
05-29-2012, 04:29 PM
Nobody can tell. ( even on Alizee-France)
It may just be a shadow. If so, I feel silly. :o
Bigdan
05-29-2012, 04:39 PM
http://danbousq.perso.sfr.fr/post/Tin-tin-warning.jpg
That's all I can do.:w:
Azhiri
05-29-2012, 04:39 PM
I agree that she is less special now that she has covered herself with all that ink. Think about it, the reason so many people were drawn to her was because she seemed like the antithesis to the drinking/partying, "material worshipping" type of pop star we see nowadays. She had a very "less is more" approach to sex appeal, or at least her team did. I understand why someone would be turned off as a longtime fan by all the new decisions she's been making.
As far as leaving MF being a stupid decision, I guess from a career standpoint it was. But if she had stayed with that camp, she would be kept on a short leash and probably would not have much experience as a "regular person". I think leaving MF was good for her personal growth because now she can make her own mistakes. It's hard watching her do that, but it's part of life.
It looks to me like she's searching for something in her life that she can't seem to find. I wish her all the best and that she finds what she's looking for and gets some peace of mind as well.
Jake04
05-29-2012, 04:56 PM
Jeremy was probably a big part of her decision to leave MF/LB. We know that he is a songwriter himself. So, we can't really blame Alizee for trusting her own husband. Plus, how could she get out of the "Lolita" image if she stayed with MF/LB?
I think it was the long break that hurt her the most. There was no or very little news about her for almost three years which left most of fans felt abandoned, thus they moved on. It's too bad there was no Twitter or fb back then. It would made a big difference on her career had she able to keep her fans engaged just like nowadays.
SpanishFan
05-29-2012, 05:23 PM
It's too bad there was no Twitter or fb back then. It would made a big difference on her career had she able to keep her fans engaged just like nowadays.
Well... there were quite a lot of Alizée forums back in 2004... In fact more than there are nowadays...
We only can imagine what would happen if youtube, facebook, google, etc... were there at the time Alizée was a really big star twelve years ago..
http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6854
Rictor
05-29-2012, 06:26 PM
I agree that she is less special now that she has covered herself with all that ink. Think about it, the reason so many people were drawn to her was because she seemed like the antithesis to the drinking/partying, "material worshipping" type of pop star we see nowadays. She had a very "less is more" approach to sex appeal, or at least her team did. I understand why someone would be turned off as a longtime fan by all the new decisions she's been making.
Well put. The vibe I've always had from her was that she was always so "pure" and "natural." She's was the first woman that made me think, "oh my God, this is someone I would be proud to bring home to meet my family. Holy crap she's so sweet." That's what drew me to her, so you're right. For someone who previously listened to ONLY heavy metal, she was a major influence on forcing me to become more open minded. Since Alizée, I've definitely had a greater appreciation for other genres of music such as pop, and at some point, even found it hard to go back to listening to anything heavy since it no longer fit my mood anymore. Now that she has gotten all this body art, it just makes me question whether her entire image during the 2000-2004 run was manufactured. If so, MF & Company, you got me. You got me good, especially since I've never felt this way about any celebrity before. :o
Well... there were quite a lot of Alizée forums back in 2004... In fact more than there are nowadays...
We only can imagine what would happen if youtube, facebook, google, etc... were there at the time Alizée was a really big star twelve years ago..
http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6854
You're probably right. But the thing is, if youtube, facebook, etc were as big then as they are now and it somehow made her an even bigger star, I might not have liked her as much. I think I indulged in having her as my little secret. I liked the fact that she was low key.
Seriously though, those damn tattoos defiled her beautiful body. Why not limit those things to certain ideas that can be hidden? How will she wear a pretty dress now with Sailor Moon or whatever popping out her arm? WTF??! :confused:
Jake04
05-29-2012, 08:36 PM
Well... there were quite a lot of Alizée forums back in 2004... In fact more than there are nowadays...
We only can imagine what would happen if youtube, facebook, google, etc... were there at the time Alizée was a really big star twelve years ago..
http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6854
There's no doubt she would have been waaay bigger had there been fb, youtube, twitter, etc. back then. But, then again, may be she would have been a total wreck as well like Brittney and other celebrities because of all the pressures that they face.
Let's just hope she finds the perfect balance in her life.
Azhiri
05-29-2012, 08:48 PM
I'm fairly certain she doesn't want to blow up again the way she did with MF/LB back in the day. I don't think she would feel comfortable with that lifestyle. I wouldn't be surprised if she tried to keep this album as low-key as possible while turning up enough profit to please Sony and keep herself afloat.
Scruffydog777
05-29-2012, 10:22 PM
I just believe she does not have clue one how to handle her career. She should be told what to sing, what to wear, what to dance, how to handle her personal life which has been such an important reason for her success. She should not be allowed to make any decisions. If she wants to succeed, she should be kept in a rubber room, so she cant do any more damage than she has already done.
http://danbousq.perso.sfr.fr/post/Tin-tin-warning.jpg
That's all I can do.:w:
:))) Very good idea.
I just believe she does not have clue one how to handle her career. She should be told what to sing, what to wear, what to dance, how to handle her personal life which has been such an important reason for her success. She should not be allowed to make any decisions. If she wants to succeed, she should be kept in a rubber room, so she cant do any more damage than she has already done.
I will admit that she was at her best when under MF & LB's wing. :)
severianb
05-30-2012, 01:46 AM
I just saw the new show she did, and saw the big tat on her right arm. I got the same ill feeling that I did when I saw her Tinkerbell tat for the first time. Honestly, I couldn't even watch the new video the whole way through.
I got over Tinkerbell, chalked it up to youthful rebellion. It can also easily be covered with a shirt. These new ones have got progressively larger and more unavoidable. Her right arm is now almost a complete sleeve. This new one is visible at all times with the short sleeved blouses and dresses she wears. I'm not sure I can get over this one.
She said she is "getting back to her roots" with the new album. Many of us feel her "roots" involved her image just as much as her music.... these tats are as far from that original image as can be. Color me confused.
I still can't wait to hear the album. I hope all this works out for her!
Scruffydog777
06-04-2012, 07:47 PM
I've been trying hard not to think about this subject. I go the Comcast web site to check my e-mail I went there a little while ago and I was greeted with this story. I couldn't help but laugh.
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WhiteFeather
06-04-2012, 08:17 PM
I've been trying hard not to think about this subject. I go the Comcast web site to check my e-mail I went there a little while ago and I was greeted with this story. I couldn't help but laugh.
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That is pretty funny. People actually think that we cared about Octomom in the first place. And they're still putting out articles on her.
Oh those crazy tabloid writers... :))
:p
MasterSprtn117
06-04-2012, 08:32 PM
Well put. The vibe I've always had from her was that she was always so "pure" and "natural." She's was the first woman that made me think, "oh my God, this is someone I would be proud to bring home to meet my family. Holy crap she's so sweet." That's what drew me to her, so you're right. For someone who previously listened to ONLY heavy metal, she was a major influence on forcing me to become more open minded. Since Alizée, I've definitely had a greater appreciation for other genres of music such as pop, and at some point, even found it hard to go back to listening to anything heavy since it no longer fit my mood anymore. Now that she has gotten all this body art, it just makes me question whether her entire image during the 2000-2004 run was manufactured. If so, MF & Company, you got me. You got me good, especially since I've never felt this way about any celebrity before. :o
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/171/are-you-a-wizard.jpg
Are you me?
Onto the tattoo issue - it seems there is hope for the future....maybe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i14CDCBflc0&feature=related
Not sure what it looks like after the skin heals.
User22
06-05-2012, 12:52 AM
Da whaaaaaaat. That is awesome
Bigdan
06-05-2012, 11:56 AM
Da whaaaaaaat. That is awesome
well... exchange a sailormoon tattoo for a crocodile skin.... is it really a gain? :13:
Scruffydog777
06-05-2012, 05:38 PM
............ The vibe I've always had from her was that she was always so "pure" and "natural." She's was the first woman that made me think, "oh my God, this is someone I would be proud to bring home to meet my family. Holy crap she's so sweet." That's what drew me to her, so you're right. For someone who previously listened to ONLY heavy metal, she was a major influence on forcing me to become more open minded. Since Alizée, I've definitely had a greater appreciation for other genres of music such as pop, and at some point, even found it hard to go back to listening to anything heavy since it no longer fit my mood anymore. Now that she has gotten all this body art, it just makes me question whether her entire image during the 2000-2004 run was manufactured. If so, MF & Company, you got me. You got me good, especially since I've never felt this way about any celebrity before. :o
Well said by Rictor. She was the perfect woman in so many ways. As he said someone a young man would love to bring home and show off to family (Don't leave dad alone with her!).
After her last album did not live up to her expectations, I kept harping on the fact that she needed a good manager; somebody who knows what he (she?) is doing. She has that now with Sony. I've been saying I think this next album will be a good one and I do believe that. I think it will do well financially and I'm sure there will be concerts in Paris that wont be cancelled.
I said that when ever she performs I hope every inch of her tatoos is covered up. I'm not sure if that will be enough. She'll still look great, but I'll know inside that as far as her physical beauty, she is no longer that perfect woman. It wont really matter what she wears. Then another quaility that in the past I thought was so perfect of this woman is what's going on upstairs.
What is it about her that makes her want to get these tatoos at the expense of her beauty? Why is this 27 year old woman always making these duck faces and flashing these v symbols? Now those seem like relatively minor things and they are, but they are not what I envision the perfect woman doing.
So I think what I perceived as the perfect woman, is not that anymore. I'm sure I'll get a lot of enjoyment out of this next album, but I really don't think it can have the specialness that I've refered to before of her first two albums.
I think something Rictor mentioned is MF and LB molded her into something she really wasn't; something she didn't want to be and at first thought, I'd be ticked off at them for deceiving us that way, but there's no way you can hold anything against them after they brought us 4 years of absolute beauty and perfection.
texasguy
06-05-2012, 06:03 PM
What is it about her that makes her want to get these tatoos at the expense of her beauty? Why is this 27 year old woman always making these duck faces and flashing these v symbols? Now those seem like relatively minor things and they are, but they are not what I envision the perfect woman doing.
I wonder if she reads the comments on the pictures she puts on instagram? This morning I read some comments (written in French) on her latest "duck face" photo from the studio and someone had questioned why she kept doing "chicken butt mouth" :)). Someone else also commented that that face was very high school-ish.
Nevertheless, it's great when she posts new photos; I couldn't care less what she's doing in them. Just thought those two comments were funny.
Scruffydog we can always hope she will come to her senses and seriously consider getting some of them removed.
Before and after laser tattoo removal (http://www.trlaser.com/photos.php)
Azhiri
06-05-2012, 08:34 PM
Sometimes I wonder if she gets annoyed by her own physical beauty. Are there days when she's just over it and wishes to be average?
Scruffydog777
06-05-2012, 10:48 PM
I first thought it might be a case that she was always beautiful and never really appreciated what people who weren't beautiful had to go through to get the opportunites she did, but it's hard to tell how good looking she was as a teenager. We see images of her when she won that drawing contest for the airplane and when she appeared in Graines De Star where she was very good looking, but then there were other times where I didn't think she looked beautiful such as when in one show where she was being interviewed they showed her chasing her little brother down the street or from the videos in high school where she's has her hair in "corn rows"(???) were at best, I'd say she looke pretty or cute, but not beautiful. The point I was trying to make is I thought maybe she was always being chased after by boys, and didn't know what it was like to be someone not that good looking who is shunned by boys, but all I can say at this point is there isn't enough info to determine that. Did some of her early interviews offer a clue? But she was never an ugly duckling, so there could still be something to it.
I'm more inclined to believe now that it's just a lack of maturity on her part. As I pointed she hasn't really had to work for anything before. Hasn't had to struggle for anything. Now I'm sure her seperation from Jeremy was a very painful process for her. It was a maturing process, but not a maturing that related to her job.
We spoke of how we thought she was the perfect woman. We still have no idea what happened between her and Jeremy (or do we?). We know very little about what went on in their relationship. But I get the impression if Jeremy was in a horrible moped accident where he lost both his arms and his legs and was horribly disfigured in a post crash fire, she would have stuck with him to the bitter end. Like I say we don't really have a clue as to what went on, but if Jeremy had been the victim, if he had been a good father, wouldn't Annily be going to school in Paris instead of Ajaccio?
Just a little side note of how much this girl means to me. I've always been a huge sports fan. I've been blessed to live in city whose teams have won so many championships. But the Celtics are playing in game 5 against the Heat. A game that I'm sure will determine the winner of this series, but I'm here discussing Alizee. I'm listening to it, but it is Alizee who is the center of my attention. I"m not watching the Red Sox play Baltimore either.
Sorry...................I digressed. I still think what happend with Jeremy might be a big factor in what is going on with her. I think as happy as she appears to be, probably because she's finally out of relationship that wasn't working, I think she's depressed, because I'm sure at this point in her life, she probably fully expected to be in a very loving marrriage; a marriage where she'd probably would have had a second child by now; a marriage where her career may not even have mattered to her.
So there will still be a lot of head scratching going on behind this keyboard with views and ideas changing on a daily basis. I'd really like to know exactly what this girl is all about, or then again, maybe I don't.
Scruffydog there is defiantly something going on inside her head that we have no idea at what level. It is no excuse to say, oh my marriage failed so I'm going to tattoo my body up to feel better. I'd rather see her shop until she drops, than see what she is doing to herself. :(
Someone said a few months ago that we have no idea what she is really like when you are one on one with her. Jeremy could be the nicest guy in the world and she could be a major pain in the back side to live with.
I was home doing paperwork one Sunday afternoon and was channel surfing when I came across a Denise Richards reality show marathon. I kept remembering how I said to myself when she and Charlie Sheen got divorced what an idiot he was for messing around with prostitutes. Well after about an hour I couldn't blame Charlie for using a prostitute. Denise is a very beautiful woman but after listening to and watching her on this show I realized she is a total nut case.
Alizée could be the sweetest woman you ever met or a diva-zilla or even Bi-Polar. We don't know what her real personality is because she is somewhat of a recluse.
it just makes me question whether her entire image during the 2000-2004 run was manufactured. If so, MF & Company, you got me. You got me good, especially since I've never felt this way about any celebrity before. :o
Of course it was manufactured. That's what MF does. That's what the industry does. MF is just right up there at the master level.
That said, you still need to start with good ingredients. But when you think about it, wasn't that how Alizee was discovered in the first place? MF already had the cookbook mostly written, went looking for the proper ingredients, and found Alizee.
With MF, she turned sugar into cake with nice icing. Alizee, alone, is sort of like sugar and cream. Sweat by itself, but is really grand when mixed with the right recipe, cooked appropriately, air cooled (double entendre intended) and gilded to perfection.
Now, if you will pardon me, I'm going to go eat my bucket of tatoo flavored icing while I dream about cake.:wub::wub::wub::wub:
I think those who like Weird Al and or disapprove of Zée's tattoos will like this :D
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To stay fully on topic though, has her marriage really failed? =O
BrianO1
06-08-2012, 09:35 PM
Well, it seemed that mark near the sailor moon foot, was a tattoo. Someone posted a picture from today's video broadcast on AF. It looks like a Minnie Mouse face.
*runs and hides*
SpanishFan
06-08-2012, 09:59 PM
It is ok, I am sure the tattoo of Minnie Mouse has a very special meaning for her, or something that happened in her life, like the rest of tattoos.:facepalm:
texasguy
06-08-2012, 11:32 PM
Well, it seemed that mark near the sailor moon foot, was a tattoo. Someone posted a picture from today's video broadcast on AF. It looks like a Minnie Mouse face.
*runs and hides*
Yep, here it is. http://i.imgur.com/xIbHl.jpg
I think she would look great with a giant Glenn Quagmire on the left arm! You know, keeping with the yellow/red/blue color scheme of Sailor Moon Man.
Azhiri
06-09-2012, 12:07 AM
Ugh. She must be making these up as she goes along.
It is ok, I am sure the tattoo of Minnie Mouse has a very special meaning for her, or something that happened in her life, like the rest of tattoos.:facepalm:
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Un-rêve
06-09-2012, 09:39 AM
Yep, here it is. http://i.imgur.com/xIbHl.jpg
I think she would look great with a giant Glenn Quagmire on the left arm! You know, keeping with the yellow/red/blue color scheme of Sailor Moon Man.
Alizée will always be a child at heart but it seems a bit out of place to have a Minnie Mouse face there as has been suggested. I would've thought this was part of or atleast something related to Sailor Moon.
I'm mystified!
Scruffydog777
06-09-2012, 10:48 AM
Members have mentioned the tatoo removal process in here. If she didn't have enough sense to not get the tatoos in the first place, she wont have enough sense to get them removed and even if she did, I'm sure that she would never look the same. That perfect beauty can never be restored.
I've mentioned before I'm a big sports fan. I remember reading the sad story of a San Francisco Giant's fan who attended the opening baseball game last year at Dodger stadium. After the game, he was beaten up in the parking lot. He was in a coma for a while. He survived, but he has brain damage and I guess now, over a year later he is still in a rehabilitation center.
Well looking at the news on the internet last night, I saw an article where they found the men who did it and they are going to have to stand trial. They showed pictures of them and after doing some more research on them, I found they had a lot of tatoos. Now if you see any of those programs done on prisons, you've seen how many long term prisoners get tatoos. It is my opinion that tatoos, will always have a negative connotation to them, even if you put the most beautiful tatoo, on the most beautiful woman.
Alizee used to be at the top of my chart as far as beautiful women, but I feel she's just an average woman now; a woman's whose former beauty will long be remembered.
Future Raptor Ace
06-09-2012, 01:00 PM
Members have mentioned the tatoo removal process in here. If she didn't have enough sense to not get the tatoos in the first place, she wont have enough sense to get them removed and even if she did, I'm sure that she would never look the same. That perfect beauty can never be restored.
Alizee used to be at the top of my chart as far as beautiful women, but I feel she's just an average woman now; a woman's whose former beauty will long be remembered.
I agree Scruffy! I honestly think she is not acting her age nor like a mother; but it is non of my business.
Now if you see any of those programs done on prisons, you've seen how many long term prisoners get tatoos. It is my opinion that tatoos, will always have a negative connotation to them, even if you put the most beautiful tatoo, on the most beautiful woman.
Show me an inmate with a tattoo of Tinkerbell on his back and Sailor Moon on his arm and I'll show you an inmate with a lot friends.
HelixSix
06-09-2012, 05:53 PM
I agree Scruffy! I honestly think she is not acting her age nor like a mother; but it is non of my business.
Well at this point we might as well make it our business since so many agree on this one thing. I'm just saying it's okay to talk about it.
Unless she is living in a completely different world or is sacrificing part of her old fan base to create a new one based on the tattoo'd up image I can understand that. This might be part of their strategy.
But if she has no mentors or supervisors stepping in (her new friends obviously encourage this stuff) we can't help but feel we should try and give her advice. We might not know about what it takes to be a musician/dancer but a lot of us have some concrete life lessons from the mistakes we and people we know/knew have made.
Helixsix I have to agree with your assessment with the exception of Future Raptor Ace's comment on his assessment of her being a good mother. I just don't see her doing this with out encouragement from others around her. Increasing the number of tattoos on your body does not increase your fan base, your singing and performing skills bring you fans. So unless she plans on going full "Punk" those tattoo's are doing more harm that good.
After watching a piece on the news about a new treatment for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder using an Alzheimer drug called Memantine, the first thing that came to mind was Alizée and the tattoos.
Scruffydog777
06-09-2012, 06:56 PM
Show me an inmate with a tattoo of Tinkerbell on his back and Sailor Moon on his arm and I'll show you an inmate with a lot friends.
I'll bet he drops his soap a lot in the shower too.
Edit:
Well at this point we might as well make it our business since so many agree on this one thing. I'm just saying it's okay to talk about it. .
I said I was going to shut up on this subject and I wish I could. What's the use? I feel there is no stopping her. There will be more. I feel there's no sense in adding to what I've already said, ut then I'll see a picture like the one posted here and my blood pressure doubles and I can't conatain myself.
Unless she is living in a completely different world or is sacrificing part of her old fan base to create a new one based on the tattoo'd up image I can understand that. This might be part of their strategy..
That passed my mind too. Maybe they think the controversy this is causing keeps people interested; keeps them around.
But if she has no mentors or supervisors stepping in (her new friends obviously encourage this stuff) we can't help but feel we should try and give her advice. We might not know about what it takes to be a musician/dancer but a lot of us have some concrete life lessons from the mistakes we and people we know/knew have made.
That's the bigges thing that bothers me. Isn't there anyone around her trying to talk some sense into her? I feel her closest freind could be dancerman and as I said before, I think all he does is encourage her.
After watching a piece on the news about a new treatment for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder using an Alzheimer drug called Memantine, the first thing that came to mind was Alizée and the tattoos . .
Maybe that's the only logical explanation for what she is doing.
Euphoria
06-09-2012, 08:41 PM
I don't think Alizee has any sort of deep, psychological problems. I mean come on, she's not doing drugs and she's not an alcoholic, as far as we know. I think she is just having fun and not really putting much thought into these tattoos. They're obviously on a whim. She said a long time ago in an interview, that she didn't plan too far ahead and this is the perfect example of that mentality. She's having fun and trying to enjoy what is left of her youth.
Azhiri
06-09-2012, 09:53 PM
That's the bigges thing that bothers me. Isn't there anyone around her trying to talk some sense into her? I feel her closest freind could be dancerman and as I said before, I think all he does is encourage her.
I'm not sure how close they really are, but they are pictured a lot together. The latest tattoos have been keeping me stumped as to why on earth she would be getting them, but now I'm wondering if it really is the company she keeps that is encouraging her to get all these tattoos. Considering how impressionable Alizee seems to be, it wouldn't surprise me. Also, and this is just speaking from my experience with all the gay friends my parents used to have when I was a little girl who spent a lot of time with them and me (I had a gay man who babysat me at one point), a lot of gay men seem to share the value of empowerment for women and encourage independence, pride and individuality. If the tattoos are making her feel empowered or more of an individual, perhaps that's why he might encourage her to get them if she wants to.
That's all well and good, because tattoos are superficial and there is no harm done to her well-being. We just don't have to like them. If she had a problem like drinking too much, then yes, she would definitely need to get new friends who love her enough to tell her "no" when she really needs to hear it.
lefty12357
06-09-2012, 10:37 PM
I guess I still believe that Alizée is getting tattoos simply because she really likes them. And as Euphoria said, I think it fits into her philosophy of living in the present and not thinking too far into the future. I also agree with Azhiri that Alizée is impressionable and might possibly be getting some encouragement from someone, but I think if she didn't like tattoos she wouldn't give in to such encouragement.
Scruffydog777
06-10-2012, 02:49 AM
I've said before that I thought these tatoos would hurt her career outside of singing such as when there was talk of her being on the show the Voice I believe it was where I think she would be considered for the job because of her beauty rather than her singing prowess, but if this album does well under Sony's management, hopefully there wil be another under them and so the tatoos will be of little consequence. They probably wouldn't help her career, but they wont cripple it, at least not the singing part of it.
I think again as I mentioned before is they will have more a consequence in her private life. I suspect she'd like to have a husband who's good looking and some type of celebrity such as a singer or an athlete. I would think that's a very tough field to compete for. These types of celebrities usually have a flock of good looking women in search of them.
Now if you were to go out onto any street in any big city and grab 100 men of from 25 to 30 years of age, at random and show them 2 groups of pictures. Both groups of pictures would be of the same beautiful woman. They would be au natural. One group would be of the woman without tatoos and the other would be of the same woman with the tatoos that Alizee has. If you were to ask them which woman would they rather be in a relationship with. I think you might possibly find 5 at the most, but let's say you found 10 and I really believe that is the most you would find, so that means 90% who would reject the one with tatoos.
That means Alizee is herself eliminating 90 % of the men who would normally be interested in her and that's from a field that is a tough field to crack to begin with.
Of course Alizee wants this album to be a success but a thing I think she'd love much more is to find a loving husband and a great father for Annily. I think she'd even cancel this album at this late stage if she found someone and wanted to run off with him. But if she wants someone who would be a good catch for a celebrity like herself, I don't think theres anything she could do that would be more damaging for her chances than what she's doing now.
It's so hard to watch what's going on and see her doing what she's doing and In my eyes, that's self destructing.
The one thing that could stop this is if a good man came along for her. That's something that I feel would do her the most good; bring her the most happiness, but with each tatoo, those odds are getting slimmer and slimmer.
Then again maybe she's already found the man of her dreams and that man lives in Paris and he tatoos people for a living.
Azhiri
06-10-2012, 03:42 AM
Judging strictly from her pictures, it looks like Alizee is enjoying the single life at the moment, but those tattoos will be there forever.. she probably won't be enjoying the single life forever.
I would hope that Alizee wouldn't want a man who would choose to overlook her personality/the content of her soul and character because of her tattoos anyway, so I'm not so much worried for her love life. Then again, I'd expect the kind of tattoo someone gets would be a direct reflection of her character. To me the tattoos would suggest either that she is childlike, or that she rushes into decisions without thinking.. we know at least one of these to be true. Again, if I were her, I'd want a man who'd be willing to love me in spite of these flaws or help me improve myself rather than writing me off at first glance.
Scruffydog777
06-10-2012, 04:31 AM
Unfortunately I think what happens in the begining of a lot of relationships is the physical attraction comes first. Someone is attracted to someone else that fits a mold of what they like . Let's say a certain man likes a woman who is brunette, caucasian, 5'3", shapely. Now there are a lot of women who fit that mold so what sets one apart from another at the begining is the physical beauty. Before Alizee had a huge edge in that department, now I think, if they see her tatoos, it's a big disadvantage.
Now the personality, the soul, and the character mean a tremendous amount, and I think there are a lot of cases, for instance where two people who find themselves working for the same company and are not initially all that physically attracted to each other, but because they are around each other all the time they get to learn of and love those other qualities and a relationship develops.
But I think with her life style and with the select group of men that she'd prefer to be in a relationship with, men really don't get to know her well enough to learn of those other great qualities of her.
Future Raptor Ace
06-10-2012, 10:36 AM
Well at this point we might as well make it our business since so many agree on this one thing. I'm just saying it's okay to talk about it.
Unless she is living in a completely different world or is sacrificing part of her old fan base to create a new one based on the tattoo'd up image I can understand that. This might be part of their strategy.
But if she has no mentors or supervisors stepping in (her new friends obviously encourage this stuff) we can't help but feel we should try and give her advice. We might not know about what it takes to be a musician/dancer but a lot of us have some concrete life lessons from the mistakes we and people we know/knew have made.
Yea we could try; but she is very strong minded! She would not listen and it would only anger her in the process, there is nothing to be done Helix!
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Helixsix I have to agree with your assessment with the exception of Future Raptor Ace's comment on his assessment of her being a good mother. I just don't see her doing this with out encouragement from others around her. Increasing the number of tattoos on your body does not increase your fan base, your singing and performing skills bring you fans. So unless she plans on going full "Punk" those tattoo's are doing more harm that good.
After watching a piece on the news about a new treatment for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder using an Alzheimer drug called Memantine, the first thing that came to mind was Alizée and the tattoos.
I never said anything about her being a good mother that is your assessment; re-read my post again!
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I don't think Alizee has any sort of deep, psychological problems. I mean come on, she's not doing drugs and she's not an alcoholic, as far as we know. I think she is just having fun and not really putting much thought into these tattoos. They're obviously on a whim. She said a long time ago in an interview, that she didn't plan too far ahead and this is the perfect example of that mentality. She's having fun and trying to enjoy what is left of her youth.
I dont think so either; I think she is completely normal but just acting very immature and childish. Left of her youth? She gave away her youth as soon as she had Annilly ... that is the choice she made; she has to realize she is an adult now and start acting like it!
Raptor Ace, I was being sarcastic with my comment on your thoughts of Alizée's parenting skills.
Future Raptor Ace
06-10-2012, 12:13 PM
Raptor Ace, I was being sarcastic with my comment on your thoughts of Alizée's parenting skills.
It is very hard to pick up on sarcasm in text man.
I'm not commenting on her parenting skills because she could be a great mother. On the other hand placing tattoos all over your body, does not set a good example for your seven year old daughter.
Euphoria
06-10-2012, 03:39 PM
The truth is, we don't know Alizee's preferences for a man. Maybe she wants a man that is more unconventional, and is into tattoos. I think mostly, Alizee needs someone very patient.
BrianO1
06-10-2012, 03:51 PM
Years ago, when asked about her type of man she said " a little crazy. Like...in his own world. " and when asked if she liked bad boys she said "yes, a bit of a bad boy, as long as they are respectful"
Anyway, I'm sure she will have no problem finding a guy.
Future Raptor Ace
06-10-2012, 04:16 PM
I'm not commenting on her parenting skills because she could be a great mother. On the other hand placing tattoos all over your body, does not set a good example for your seven year old daughter.
Now you're getting it! IT DOES NOT SET A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR HER SEVEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER! Anything else beyond that is not for any of us to say; she could be the worlds worst mother, she can be the worlds best mother, truth be told we don't know what goes on behind closed doors which is the way it should be!~
The truth is, we don't know Alizee's preferences for a man. Maybe she wants a man that is more unconventional, and is into tattoos. I think mostly, Alizee needs someone very patient.
I agree with you
vermelho grande
06-10-2012, 04:38 PM
They put women with tatoos in prison, jus so you know!!
They put women with tatoos in prison, jus so you know!!
Or they find them alone and dead, as in Amy Winehouse. :(
Future Raptor Ace
06-10-2012, 05:30 PM
They put women with tatoos in prison, jus so you know!!
Do they Big Red? :D Welcome to the forum btw!
Jake04
06-10-2012, 06:07 PM
I see some hope though. The fact that she didn't post any photos of it (them?), unlike the "Forever young" and "Sailor moon" tattoos, mean she somehow realized that some fans were quite upset with them so she didn't post any more photos so as not to upset them any further. I still hope she'll wisen up in the future and have them removed just like Megan Fox, Mark Wahlberg and thousands of other people. :pray:
Scruffydog777
06-10-2012, 06:07 PM
A thought went across my mind a couple of weeks ago that maybe if I sent an e-mail to Sony, telling them that these tatoos are damaging her image and they should try and tell her to put a stop to it until sometime after the new album came out, and I thought that had a good possibility of happening and as much as it kills me to see her doing it, I wouldn't want her to be forced into anything.
I hope she reads the comments in these forums and I hope she realizes what our concerns and fears are but if she makes a decision to not get any more, or at least hold off a while, I want that to be a decision she makes of her own free will and not something she is forced into doing.
BrianO1
06-10-2012, 06:23 PM
If the woman was doing drugs, or drinking too much, an "intervention" would make sense....these a just tattoos...
And I doubt she is posting less photos of her tattoos because she doesn't want to upset anyone. If anything, she's just tired of hearing people complain about them, and for her own benefit, isn't calling attention to um.
lefty12357
06-10-2012, 07:47 PM
Well I don't care for her tattoos, but I really don't think they are endangering her career. It seems to me that most pop stars nowadays have tattoos. To some extent, it's a generational thing, but there are some people regardless of their generation who don't like them, as well as some people who do. Either way, I think it would be going way too far to try to interfere with Alizée and her relationship with her bosses. They would probably all just have a big laugh about it anyways. Trust me, the people in the entertainment industry march to the beat of a different drum and things like tattoos are a common, everyday thing to them.
pepelepew
06-10-2012, 09:41 PM
I've made it clear that I don't like any of her tattoo's, but I don't have any illusions that my feelings about them will impact Alizee in any way. They are just my opinions. I also don't have any illusions that I know anything about her psyche or who she really is as a person. Therefore I don't know what is best for her career or personal life. I speculate that the tats will not be especially helpful and may impact future endeavors, but nobody knows what Alizee wants or desires beyond the superficial clues she allows us to see. She may decide to be a truck driver and the tats won't have any effect good or bad. Whether she is a good mom or not is even a mystery. She does what she does and this fan has lost all enthusiasm about her. I still want the very best for her and I still would take a bullet for her because at the end of the day I sense that she is a good person, intelligent, and is a positive influence in the world, and I love her in a plutonic way, :(but the thrill is gone as BB King sings. It makes me sad to feel this way, but it is the truth good, bad, or ugly. For her as for me, "it is what it is".
Junkmale
06-10-2012, 09:45 PM
Please, PLEase, PLEASE!
Enough is enough...
Jeez...come on.
She's got a few tattoos? She likes them. Her and millions and millions of people all over the world have tattoo's.
It's not a big deal. She's not losing her mind, isn't bi-polar and doesn't have any kind of mental aberation.
She just likes tattoo's. Finit!
If you like them, fine. If you don't like them that's fine too.
But that's it.......
Future Raptor Ace
06-10-2012, 11:01 PM
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WhiteFeather
06-11-2012, 02:27 AM
Please, PLEase, PLEASE!
Enough is enough...
Jeez...come on.
She's got a few tattoos? She likes them. Her and millions and millions of people all over the world have tattoo's.
It's not a big deal. She's not losing her mind, isn't bi-polar and doesn't have any kind of mental aberation.
She just likes tattoo's. Finit!
If you like them, fine. If you don't like them that's fine too.
But that's it.......
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I agree.
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I say just roll with the changes.
Azhiri
06-11-2012, 03:15 AM
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omg... throwback. My mom had their CD when I was little and I used to sing along to this song when she played it, I can recite every word to this day. Very bittersweet, but appropriate.
Also, if you guys don't want the forum to keep discussing this until the end of days.. you have another thing coming. We've been putting constant scrutiny on her career and her looks, discussed every detail, had the same conversations repeatedly for years. It is natural and I even think it's good for everyone to be expressing and developing opinions here. Besides, with no real news on the album coming out or scandalous affairs with mysterious male celebrities ( :rolleyes: ), this is the only thing that is really going on for us to discuss, so it is not surprising at all to me the level of activity this thread has gotten, nor the many different analyses and theories that have been presented.
BrianO1
06-11-2012, 03:24 AM
It's the space lobsters. Lili is one of the leaders of the resistance forces against the evil lobsters. The tattoos, must be her way of getting messages out to the rest of the resistance. The lobsters will just think they are tattoos, but in reality, they are battle plans!
The bird was an order to carry out an assualt by air.
The Sailor Moon, was an order to carry out an attack by sea, using the cover of nighttime.
The mini mouse was an order for her short female resistance members to strike. We all know giant lobsters have a hard time seeing small people.
The Forever Young tattoo, was an order for all members to sing that song if captured, since the Lobsters can not stand it. They will let the prisoners go rather then have to listen to that song over and over and over.
So you see guys, you may not like the tattoos, but they are necessary if we are to survive and win the war against the invading Crustaceans.
Just for that it's time for the Lobster song. :dance:
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vermelho grande
06-11-2012, 01:27 PM
Thanks for the welcome Ace!
I heard Stevie Nicks was on tour...............
funny, cause Christie McVie had all the pipes in that group.
Oh, and to Azhiri: Thanks for making me feel OLD!!
Toc De Mac
06-11-2012, 03:00 PM
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I was just listening to that song earlier today... very appropriate here. I don't know why Alizée has been getting all of these tattoos, and I don't think any of us will ever know. I don't even like them personally. But at the end of the day you've got to let the girl live her own life, not the life you've made out for her in your head. Wasn't that a big part of why she wanted to stop being the plaything of Mylène?
Junkmale
06-11-2012, 08:16 PM
Also, if you guys don't want the forum to keep discussing this until the end of days.. you have another thing coming. We've been putting constant scrutiny on her career and her looks, discussed every detail, had the same conversations repeatedly for years. It is natural and I even think it's good for everyone to be expressing and developing opinions here. Besides, with no real news on the album coming out or scandalous affairs with mysterious male celebrities ( :rolleyes: ), this is the only thing that is really going on for us to discuss, so it is not surprising at all to me the level of activity this thread has gotten, nor the many different analyses and theories that have been presented.
You are 100% correct Azhiri...it's a fan Forum and that's what it's all about. Long may it continue.
I just feel that some of the more bizarre theories and speculation we have had here are wayyyy of the mark.
I'm am convinced that there is nothing going on here apart from a girl who likes tattoo's?
Anyone is, off course, free to differ :)
Azhiri
06-11-2012, 09:11 PM
I think it could be as simple as she just likes the tattoos, or maybe she feels she is distancing herself from people who would like to control her, or she is saying "carpe diem" and trying to suck the marrow out of life, as the Dead Poets say. Who knows what's going on inside her head? ;)
HelixSix
06-11-2012, 10:06 PM
Please, PLEase, PLEASE!
Enough is enough...
Jeez...come on.
She's got a few tattoos? She likes them. Her and millions and millions of people all over the world have tattoo's.
It's not a big deal. She's not losing her mind, isn't bi-polar and doesn't have any kind of mental aberation.
She just likes tattoo's. Finit!
If you like them, fine. If you don't like them that's fine too.
But that's it.......
I want you to repeat that same thing when she has 5+ more tattoo's and it really starts to effect her career and personal life. Some of us see that coming and we don't feel like sitting on our asses acting like everything is fine when much of her past has not worked out.
I don't know why Alizée has been getting all of these tattoos, and I don't think any of us will ever know. But at the end of the day you've got to let the girl live her own life, not the life you've made out for her in your head.
There are many ways to analyze this subject because a lot of us have experience with it We won't ever know if we don't look into it. This isn't something private between Alizée and Jeremy which only they know.
Personally I've never had a life made out for her in my head. It doesn't mean I can't be concerned though.
Scruffydog777
06-12-2012, 01:45 PM
I was laying in bed last night, doing a little channel surfing before I went to sleep when I came across the movie "The Bodyguard". I'm sure you're all familiar with it. It stars Kevin Costner and Whitney Houston. What an incredible voice Whitney had. The music video from this movie was in the top 10 of my all time favorites. I think Kevin Costner is a great actor. I'm a big fan of his movies. As much as I liked the video and as big a fan as I was of both of these celebrities, I never cared to watch the movie. Now I enjoy this type of move which is classified as a romantic thriller, but the reason I never wanted to watch it is I saw ads for it and the type of singer she portrayed, was so opposite of why I first came to love Alizee. The singer Whitney portrayed had so much bling I guess you call it, she he was so Hollywood, where Alizee was just pure, natural beauty. Seeing it made me think a lot about Alizee so I watched it and it was a good movie.
This movie was on the Sundance channel. It mostly airs independent fims, documentaries, etc. Well a show came on after this called "The Push Girls". It's a series where they follow the lives of 4 pretty young women in California who for various reasons, became wheel chair bound. I watched it and again this show made me think about what is going on with Alizee. They had something we all take for granted and they lost it, but certainly not by their own choice. Now that it's gone, I'm sure they truely appreciate what they had. Though they all seem to have a great outlook on life, I'm sure, they'd do anything to get it back.
I had been doing so much thinking about Alizee during these two shows. but the real kicker and the real irony came after this show ended. I had to see a man about a horse, so I got up and left the room, but I could still hear the tv. Now the Sundance channel doesn't have commercials, but in between shows, one thing they do is show previews of upcoming shows, so when I was in the next room, I heard the unmistakable voice of Alizee singing Moi Lolita. It was an ad for the movie " A Good Year". By the time I got back to the room, the ad was over. It's so awesome to hear Alizee's voice on American t.v. By the way, the movie is on tonight at 8pm. Here is the trailer for the movie from youtube, part of which is probably what was being played during that ad.
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Jake04
06-12-2012, 08:54 PM
Cool story! Does anyone know why they chose ML? It doesn't seem to be about a guy having a relationship with a teen or something. :confused:
I wonder if the director or producer just happened to be fan of Alizee. :p
Un-rêve
06-12-2012, 09:09 PM
Does anyone know why they chose ML? I wonder if the director or producer just happened to be fan of Alizee. :p
Yeah!!! :D
and the fact it was also one of the BIGGEST HITS of the decade in France! ;)
Scruffydog777
06-12-2012, 10:10 PM
Cool story! Does anyone know why they chose ML? It doesn't seem to be about a guy having a relationship with a teen or something. :confused:
I wonder if the director or producer just happened to be fan of Alizee. :p
I wondered about that too. Like you said it wasn't a relationship with a Lolita. The movie didn't come out until 2006 and at that point I believe Alizee was kind of a forgotten personality "in France", but I think people in other parts of the world were just finding out about her and I think that's what happened. Someone heard this beautiful song (Russell Crowe maybe?) from a beautiful French singer and the main part of this story was based in France. They knew the song might not have been completely appropriate for the movie, but they loved it so much, they used it anyways, probably with the thought that people would love the song and the voice of Alizee.
P.S.
Welcome vermelho grande!
P.S.P.S.
I watched the movie "A Good Year" tonight. In it they showed a woman who had matching tatoos on both her ankles. Now she had very nice legs and I would've prefered her legs without the tatoos, but these were very nicely done.
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Well I saw one of the individuals that may have influenced Alizée when it comes to her tattoo's. Anyone see the new picture of "Madonna" deciding to flash her thong wearing bare cheeked butt to the audience in Rome yesterday? Did you also see the tattoo she has across her back? NO FEAR.
You know your career is in trouble when you're 53 and have dress like a 21 year old Britney Speers. Plus, you're so desperate to be relevant again, you need to flash a nipple and now your bare butt to the audience at your concerts to get attention from the press.
Not trying to change the subject but the tattoo on Madonna's back and wrist stood out on that picture from yesterday.
Jake04
06-13-2012, 10:27 PM
Well I saw one of the individuals that may have influenced Alizée when it comes to her tattoo's. Anyone see the new picture of "Madonna" deciding to flash her thong wearing bare cheeked butt to the audience in Rome yesterday? Did you also see the tattoo she has across her back? NO FEAR.
You know your career is in trouble when you're 53 and have dress like a 21 year old Britney Speers. Plus, you're so desperate to be relevant again, you need to flash a nipple and now your bare butt to the audience at your concerts to get attention from the press.
Not trying to change the subject but the tattoo on Madonna's back and wrist stood out on that picture from yesterday.
I saw the nip video, not the butt cheek. It saddens me to see Madonna like this. She used to be one of my favorite singer back in the 80's. She's worth, by some estimates, over half-a-billion dollars! She doesn't have to do this. She's definitely not desperate for money, but rather desperate for ATTENTION!
I would like for Alizee to be as successful and have a long career like Madonna, but definitely NOT like this! I'd rather see her retire in Ajaccio in 5-10 years after achieving financial security than see her on her 40's or even 50's still performing JEAM! :p
(Although the way she ages, she might still be able to pull it off :wub:)
I would like for Alizee to be as successful and have a long career like Madonna, but definitely NOT like this! I'd rather see her retire in Ajaccio in 5-10 years after achieving financial security than see her on her 40's or even 50's still performing JEAM! :p
(Although the way she ages, she might still be able to pull it off :wub:)
That is what we all want for Alizée, married and living a nice pampered life.
This is the reason some of us are so concerned with this period of her life. Alizée's short sightedness of the long term effect these tattoo's will have on the romantic aspect of her life in the future.
Azhiri
06-13-2012, 11:46 PM
I think she's probably desperate to connect with today's generation of music listeners... her latest album tried to follow the current pop trends to appeal to my generation (I think we're Generation Z?) and it FLOPPED big-time. It's a shame, she has made her mark in music and will be remembered always, she doesn't need to prove anything to today's industry - but she tried anyway and it was underwhelming.
I sure hope Alizee has the sense to recognize that and returns to what she is really good at instead of being a follower and catering to trends that don't suit her as a performer. Innovation, not imitation!
Jake04
06-14-2012, 12:01 AM
I sure hope Alizee has the sense to recognize that and returns to what she is really good at instead of being a follower and catering to trends that don't suit her as a performer. Innovation, not imitation!
Well, wasn't that what she did with Psych and UEDS?
Azhiri
06-14-2012, 12:54 AM
Well, wasn't that what she did with Psych and UEDS?
Do you mean that she was innovative with those two albums or that they tried too hard to follow a trend?
I should clarify that I don't think she has ever really been a follower musically. Neither has Madonna, but Madonna's album felt very average and in-line with today's pop standards... there's really nothing from the album that Rihanna, Katy, or even Ke$ha couldn't have produced/sung. That was the comparison I was trying to make, with each release Alizee was doing something that was marketable, but still her own thing (with the exception of UEdS, which was not marketable imo). I'm hoping she doesn't change and try to do something that sounds exactly like something any other pop singer could do, I think she should come up with something that at least has a unique touch to it that will chart well, if only to get her name back out again.
Jake04
06-14-2012, 03:51 AM
Do you mean that she was innovative with those two albums or that they tried too hard to follow a trend?
I should clarify that I don't think she has ever really been a follower musically.
I don't think they tried to follow a trend at all. From what I understand, both Psych and UEDS were so out of the mainstream in France, thus they didn't sell well. She tried to do her own thing. Even though she didn't write any of the songs, she was deeply involved or had a lot of input into them, especially with Psych since it involved Jeremy. And I agree that she was never a follower. Even though she likes Madonna, she never tried to pattern her music or style with Madonna's. Unlike Lady Gaga who seems to copy Madonna's style and music.
Neither has Madonna, but Madonna's album felt very average and in-line with today's pop standards... there's really nothing from the album that Rihanna, Katy, or even Ke$ha couldn't have produced/sung.
Madonna was very innovatve back in the 80's and 90's. She always pushed the envelop. A lot of singers today like Brittney, Lady Gaga, Christina Aguilera, etc. were clearly influenced by Madonna.
That was the comparison I was trying to make, with each release Alizee was doing something that was marketable, but still her own thing (with the exception of UEdS, which was not marketable imo). I'm hoping she doesn't change and try to do something that sounds exactly like something any other pop singer could do, I think she should come up with something that at least has a unique touch to it that will chart well, if only to get her name back out again.
I wouldn't mind if her next album is more mainstream or at least close to her earlier music. As far a the French are concern, she already has "two strikes" on her (Psych and UEDS). We know that this could be her last chance. So, her next album really needs to do well if she is to continue to have a career in music. If her album sells well, then maybe Sony will allow her to do her own thing again.
Karin
06-14-2012, 09:12 AM
If her album sells well, then maybe Sony will allow her to do her own thing again.
dont think so... Sony is now very careful in each thing about new album, cause like was posted many times, this is maybe Alizées last chance (however she can try it with another labels like EMI where is Matt Pokora :p )... It looks Sony take this situation really in their hands and try to do everything possible... and if new album will sell well, I think they will be still veeery careful...
or in the worst situation... it can end like by Psyché, where Sony stopped promo and so completely put Psyché in trash...
Scruffydog777
06-14-2012, 09:49 AM
I'm pretty certain that this album will do well and if it does well, she would be foolish to go off in another direction because she really hasn't demonstrated that she has any knack for the business, at least not a knack that will produce results at the box office. Like I said, I'm predicting this album will do well and if possible, if she wants to do another album down the road, hopefully she will do it again under Sony's guidance.
vermelho grande
06-14-2012, 01:26 PM
Thanks Scruff!
I'm with you on the Tats, but My handle should be
"Viejo Rojo Grande" so my dos centavos isn't worth much
with the younger folks!
By the way, check out Beres Hammond's ROCKAWAY on youtube, I'm sure it will bring back fond memories, we're about the same age......................
youtube.com/watch?v=N4k4nhYp5zI
Rictor
06-14-2012, 07:49 PM
When a woman gets a bunch of ugly tattoos and you still care a great deal about her, you know it's gotta be looooooveeeee!
<3333 Lili
HelixSix
06-14-2012, 11:36 PM
I think she's probably desperate to connect with today's generation of music listeners... her latest album tried to follow the current pop trends to appeal to my generation (I think we're Generation Z?) and it FLOPPED big-time. It's a shame, she has made her mark in music and will be remembered always, she doesn't need to prove anything to today's industry - but she tried anyway and it was underwhelming.
I sure hope Alizee has the sense to recognize that and returns to what she is really good at instead of being a follower and catering to trends that don't suit her as a performer. Innovation, not imitation!
I disagree on that. The reason I respected her so much is because she branched out into the music she wanted to make, rather than what she is doing right now which will likely be traditional pop.
I had no problem with her albums not doing so good because she did it her way and wasn't puppet lolita part 2 like so many wanted her to be...and still would want her to be if she hadn't got all the tattoo's. If the tattoo's are for that purpose my respect meter goes way up again since those fans have been so rude over the years being side-seat driving wannabe career managers thinking they know more about her than she does.
Scruffydog777
06-15-2012, 08:30 AM
It was very brave of her to go off in a new direction, but being very brave and being very smart are 2 very different things. As far as her last 2 albums, their results in France both have to be looked upon as flops. As far as calling some of her fans wanna be career managers. well that's because they are offering advice that they think she badly needs. and quite frankly I think she's a wanna be career manager who was managing her own career right into the ground.
About the only smart decision she's made in the past several years is to get with Sony and let them run the show and I think "they" will save her career.
vermelho grande
06-15-2012, 01:51 PM
I'd like to see her do something with Argentine Jazz legend Gato Barbieri. He won a grammy for the 1974 score to "Last Tango in Paris". His stuff is very suited to songs like Alizee and
"À Contre-courant" to name two.
Gato is in his late 70's, but he still tours. He's an icon of Latin Jazz and is much beloved in S A and could also bring a Maurice Chevalier vibe. Women love the sound he gets out of his tenor sax. That's why he was picked to write the score to Last Tango.
One album with Gato Barbieri would totaly revamp Lilli's career.
She would be a jazz star.
See Joni Mitchel!
Azhiri
06-16-2012, 11:36 PM
I disagree on that. The reason I respected her so much is because she branched out into the music she wanted to make, rather than what she is doing right now which will likely be traditional pop.
I had no problem with her albums not doing so good because she did it her way and wasn't puppet lolita part 2 like so many wanted her to be...and still would want her to be if she hadn't got all the tattoo's. If the tattoo's are for that purpose my respect meter goes way up again since those fans have been so rude over the years being side-seat driving wannabe career managers thinking they know more about her than she does.
I was talking about Madonna in the first part of that post, not Alizee. I think with Psyche, Alizee had a good balance of music that was what she wanted with a personal touch, and also very marketable... if only the actual marketing had been handled a little better. UEdS I appreciated because I thought it was a great album and I liked that Alizee was keeping her artistic integrity rather than selling out to make something manufactured.. the subject material meant something to her and it was great.
With her newest album I guess Sony will be calling the shots. If she has any input at all, I hope she makes it as Alizee-ish as possible while still making it marketable, like I said... pop can still be original and truly great if the right people are behind it. I think her team's first priority is to make money, and if the album doesn't sell well we may not see much more from her. :(
lefty12357
06-17-2012, 11:20 AM
I was talking about Madonna in the first part of that post, not Alizee. I think with Psyche, Alizee had a good balance of music that was what she wanted with a personal touch, and also very marketable... if only the actual marketing had been handled a little better. UEdS I appreciated because I thought it was a great album and I liked that Alizee was keeping her artistic integrity rather than selling out to make something manufactured.. the subject material meant something to her and it was great.
With her newest album I guess Sony will be calling the shots. If she has any input at all, I hope she makes it as Alizee-ish as possible while still making it marketable, like I said... pop can still be original and truly great if the right people are behind it. I think her team's first priority is to make money, and if the album doesn't sell well we may not see much more from her. :(
I think Jeremy may have been a key figure in the idea of self-producing Alizée's last 2 albums. Jeremy may have written some good music, but I don't think he had any history of being a producer of hit albums. I thought Psych was more marketable and accessible than UEDS and I liked both of them, but neither seemed like they had huge hit potential.
If Sony does their job right and produces a hit album that also embodies what you refer to as "Alizee-ish", and provides a proper promotion to go along with it, I think she has a good chance of a more successful result. This time, Sony will have more "ownership" in the product and may feel more compelled to make it a success.
She now has 3 strong petite female characters tattooed on her body. Has she missed any (any new "surprises" ahead), or has she covered them all? :)
She still has Betty Boop, The Little Mermaid, and how about the complete cast from Toy Story just to name a FEW she hasn't tattooed on her body yet. :rolleyes: Of course we haven't seen her since she was 18 with her cloths off so there could ten or fifteen others hidden under her wardrobe.
Rictor
06-17-2012, 02:19 PM
She still has Betty Boop, The Little Mermaid, and how about the complete cast from Toy Story just to name a FEW she hasn't tattooed on her body yet. :rolleyes: Of course we haven't seen her since she was 18 with her cloths off so there could ten or fifteen others hidden under her wardrobe.
Stop giving her ideas, man! I could picture her reading your post and going:
":13:"
Karin
06-17-2012, 03:21 PM
maybe Marge Simpson tattoo on second arm :D :p
BrianO1
06-17-2012, 03:44 PM
Well she seems to really like the Dragonball series. Over at AF a picture of her holding a little toy of one of the characters was posted. Plus she posted a picture from dragonballz a while ago on twitter. So I'm guessing the next tattoo will be from Dragonball/Dragonball Z. :p
Future Raptor Ace
06-17-2012, 04:31 PM
She still has Betty Boop, The Little Mermaid, and how about the complete cast from Toy Story just to name a FEW she hasn't tattooed on her body yet. :rolleyes: Of course we haven't seen her since she was 18 with her cloths off so there could ten or fifteen others hidden under her wardrobe.
Ohhh god no! Hey Alizee can you prove ALS right or wrong by posting pics ... just saying! ;)
Edit:
Well she seems to really like the Dragonball series. Over at AF a picture of her holding a little toy of one of the characters was posted. Plus she posted a picture from dragonballz a while ago on twitter. So I'm guessing the next tattoo will be from Dragonball/Dragonball Z. :p
Alizee with a Goku tatt .... hmmm :13: I rather see her go Super-Corsican instead ... preferably not on me!
Rictor
06-17-2012, 06:29 PM
Goku? Nah, she's secretly a Vegeta fan. ;)
Scruffydog777
06-17-2012, 06:58 PM
:cry:If Sony does their job right and produces a hit album that also embodies what you refer to as "Alizee-ish", and provides a proper promotion to go along with it, I think she has a good chance of a more successful result. This time, Sony will have more "ownership" in the product and may feel more compelled to make it a success.
Well it's because Sony is running the show and they have a reputation to protect that I feel this album will be a good album. It will sell in France. If it's not, it could cost some one there, their job or at least hurt their career with Sony and for that reason, I think whatever person (s) is running the show didn't like the progress it was makiing, they'd pull the plug on it, but there are no signs of that happening and so I'm very optimistic
She now has 3 strong petite female characters tattooed on her body. Has she missed any (any new "surprises" ahead), or has she covered them all? :)
........................... Of course we haven't seen her since she was 18 with her cloths off so there could ten or fifteen others hidden under her wardrobe.
Stop giving her ideas, man! I could picture her reading your post and going:
":13:"
LOL (:cry:)
maybe Marge Simpson tattoo on second arm :D :p
You gotta be kidding me!
It was mentioned that Rin Tin Tin is having some typd of event at his tatoo parlor, I believe it's next year and I think Alizee is gearing up for this and I don't think she will settle for being a bit player. I think she wants to be one of the main stars of this event so I think there will be several more tatoos.
That just made me think, we know that she is kind of shy, but she also loves being up on that stage, but that hasn't worked out that well with her past 2 albums, at least not in France. Maybe with all these tatoos that she already has and the many more that I'm sure are still to come, she is trying in a new way, to be the center of attention.
Future Raptor Ace
06-17-2012, 07:56 PM
Goku? Nah, she's secretly a Vegeta fan. ;)
Well that is only when she reads a power level of over 9,000!
Rictor
06-17-2012, 08:10 PM
Well she seems to really like the Dragonball series. Over at AF a picture of her holding a little toy of one of the characters was posted. Plus she posted a picture from dragonballz a while ago on twitter. So I'm guessing the next tattoo will be from Dragonball/Dragonball Z. :p
Show me this picture, Brian! I haven't seen it yet. :o
Well that is only when she reads a power level of over 9,000!
Hahaha!! If Dr. Gero knew about Alizée, he would have made an android out of her. :D
Man, Alizée would be the perfect gf for any nerd. Think about how she's into all this nerdy stuff on top of being pretty and awesome. The only girls I've met who are into dbz are absolute weirdos.
Alizée has never stopped surprising me.
:need:
Future Raptor Ace
06-17-2012, 08:59 PM
Show me this picture, Brian! I haven't seen it yet. :o
Hahaha!! If Dr. Gero knew about Alizée, he would have made an android out of her. :D
Man, Alizée would be the perfect gf for any nerd. Think about how she's into all this nerdy stuff on top of being pretty and awesome. The only girls I've met who are into dbz are absolute weirdos.
Alizée has never stopped surprising me.
:need:
Trust me when I say there are plenty of cute nerdy chicks out there .... and it is getting more and more comon/acceptable these days too ... maybe its just the girls I see since im always on the engineering side of campus but I seriously think it is a trend!
Un-rêve
06-17-2012, 10:55 PM
Haha.. well I once gave Alizée an LED electronic name badge with lyrics from ACC on it. Well it was actually mine but when I saw her face light up I just had to let her have it! :wub:
No matter what.. I guess we will always be together in electric dreams. :D
User22
06-17-2012, 11:22 PM
She needs to get a tatoo of her skin color over top her tatoos :p or just get a full-body tatoo of her body without tatoos :p
...It was mentioned that Rin Tin Tin is having some typd of event at his tatoo parlor, I believe it's next year and I think Alizee is gearing up for this and I don't think she will settle for being a bit player. I think she wants to be one of the main stars of this event so I think there will be several more tatoos.
That just made me think, we know that she is kind of shy, but she also loves being up on that stage, but that hasn't worked out that well with her past 2 albums, at least not in France. Maybe with all these tatoos that she already has and the many more that I'm sure are still to come, she is trying in a new way, to be the center of attention.
Isn't the tattooed lady usually a sideshow event?
She needs to get a tatoo of her skin color over top her tatoos :p or just get a full-body tatoo of her body without tatoos :p
Whatever works.
BrianO1
06-18-2012, 01:33 AM
Isn't the tattooed lady usually a sideshow event?
Maybe 60 years ago. Now-a-days, they are just tattoos.
And I don't think the event is at his Tin Tin's shop. I think it's some big expo type event.
Scruffydog777
06-18-2012, 03:35 AM
Well I found the event which I had mentioned earlier. It will be next march in Paris.
I'm willing to bet Alizee will get about 10 more tatoos, maybe more before this event. I think the only thing that might slow her down is if she's not in Paris often enough to get them and unfortunately, I don't think that's going to happen.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1346/image1wflm.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/image1wflm.jpg/)
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http://www.mondialdutatouage.com/english/index.php
Jake04
06-18-2012, 03:55 AM
Well, our only hope is for her new album to be a huge success so that she'll have little time to attend to these kind of nonsense!
BrianO1
06-18-2012, 06:14 AM
Well, our only hope is for her new album to be a huge success so that she'll have little time to attend to these kind of nonsense!
I dunno. My hope is that her album will be a huge success, and that she still has time to do the things she enjoys doing.
Since she is so in to her Tattoos when she shows up for Mondial Du Tatouage next year I found the perfect shoes for her to wear at Tin Tin's.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185159_356220224448912_1710485258_n.jpg
Future Raptor Ace
06-20-2012, 10:15 AM
Since she is so in to her Tattoos when she shows up for Mondial Du Tatouage next year I found the perfect shoes for her to wear at Tin Tin's.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185159_356220224448912_1710485258_n.jpg
My happy zone would just shrivel up if I saw any woman wearing those :no:
Those things are dam scary man!
Azhiri
06-20-2012, 01:43 PM
Those shoes... would be so hard to walk in. Those are for women who are at an event to stand around and be decorations. :rolleyes:
BrianO1
06-20-2012, 07:29 PM
Those shoes... would be so hard to walk in.
Not really, you just have to get used to um.
....not that I would know or anything. :secret: :p
Those shoes... would be so hard to walk in. Those are for women who are at an event to stand around and be decorations. :rolleyes:
Exactly! And show off their tattoos.
Ray4AJ
06-20-2012, 11:58 PM
Anyone else notice what was not visible in the 9 second video yesterday? Starts with a 'T'?
For the record, I hate seeing her get the tattoos, but it's all the rage nowadays and I'm over it. It's not affecting the magic. I've learned that people do what they want to do, and even when they ask for advice, they don't listen and have to find stuff out for themselves. I intend to leave it at that, but I also know that I change my mind sometimes.
Now, to reluctantly click on 'post'
Jake04
06-21-2012, 12:11 AM
Yup, she was pretty covered up on that video. I wonder what's the weather there in Brussels like. I know she can't wear that leather jacket here in Socal. Maybe she was being told by her Daddy, I mean, Sony to cover up. :D
BrianO1
06-21-2012, 01:31 AM
Or she could have been, you know....just wearing a jacket?
:'(
http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=202&pictureid=1956
I so want them candies.... anyone knows what they go by here 'states' side?
Alizee et Annily?
Alizee et Antoine (PA)
Alizee et ALS
Alizee et Aaronious?
Alizee et A....... ?
Alizee Aliance?
alcoholic anonymous?
Ah yes... and she forgot to tell me that a shark bit off half her left pinky. :13: :(
:runaway:
Jake04
06-21-2012, 05:33 AM
I think the first one is correct.
I was watching Bill O'Reilly on Fox News last night and he has a segment called Watters World where this guy Watters interviews people on the street on different subjects. Well last nights segment was on Tattoo's where he went to Coney Island to interview people on the subject.
It's pretty Tongue and Cheek and they admit it is pretty heavily edited for content.
Watter's World on Tattoo's (http://video.foxnews.com/v/1699406932001/watters-world-takes-on-tattoo-nation/?playlist_id=87485)
Just wait for the girl with the red top bikini and her answer on whether she would date a guy with tattoo's. Classic :)))
Edit: Yup, she was pretty covered up on that video. I wonder what's the weather there in Brussels like. I know she can't wear that leather jacket here in Socal. Maybe she was being told by her Daddy, I mean, Sony to cover up.
It could be chilly in there. When you have all that equipment running it does put out some serious heat and they may have the AC cranked up.
pepelepew
06-21-2012, 10:26 AM
I'm sure it is just ironic that she was wearing the leather lol!:))) I do like her in leather and she is now tattoo'ed up enough to be my biker chick although an "I love Pepe' Lepew tattoo on her forhead would be a nice touch lol!:))
BrianO1
06-21-2012, 11:32 AM
No the "2A" is not new. And it's the district on Corsica where she grew up.
No the "2A" is not new. And it's the district on Corsica where she grew up.
So that is the meaning of the 2A. :13:
BrianO1
06-21-2012, 02:34 PM
So that is the meaning of the 2A. :13:
If I remember correctly. :p
Azhiri
06-21-2012, 02:52 PM
Wait huh? How long has she had the "2A" tattoo?
DrSmith
06-21-2012, 03:02 PM
Wait huh? How long has she had the "2A" tattoo?
2 ans ? :dontknow: That's what "2A" stands for.
No really, the first time I saw it was in the pics for the UEDS release party, so that could be accurate.
Jake04
06-21-2012, 03:45 PM
Wait huh? How long has she had the "2A" tattoo?
I think it's been discussed during her performance in Israel.
Euphoria
06-21-2012, 05:26 PM
:'(
http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=202&pictureid=1956
I so want them candies.... anyone knows what they go by here 'states' side?
Alizee et Annily?
Alizee et Antoine (PA)
Alizee et ALS
Alizee et Aaronious?
Alizee et A....... ?
Alizee Aliance?
alcoholic anonymous?
Ah yes... and she forgot to tell me that a shark bit off half her left pinky. :13: :(
:runaway:
I believe those are jordan almonds.
Un-rêve
06-21-2012, 09:22 PM
Isn't the tattooed lady usually a sideshow event?
Well she's had quite a few tattoos in a short space of time and it seems like she is rebelling against something. I would rather her join up with the circus though than desecrate her body with anymore tattoos.
If she's unhappy I seriously hope she can find some peace of mind.
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Edit:
I dunno. My hope is that her album will be a huge success, and that she still has time to do the things she enjoys doing.
I absolutely agree!
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Scruffydog777
07-02-2012, 10:51 AM
There's been plenty of controversy in this thread, so I wanted to say something about her recent bikini picture and figured I'd say it here and try and contain the controversy to this thread.
If this is indeed a picture of Alizee in a bikini, what is a 27 year old woman doing wearing a bathing suit with a skull in it to the beach? It just boggles my mind. What is going on with this woman? Maybe the French have some holiday similar to our holloween or maybe they're having some type of festival on Corsica? :confused:
User22
07-02-2012, 11:41 AM
She likes skulls...a ton of fashionable women here wear skulls on their shirts, hats, pants, or whatever else. Skulls can be very fashionable if they are worn the correct way. One way NOT to wear skulls is like this:
PICTURE IS TOO SCARY AND UGLY TO SHOW
This is one way it is fashionable:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m26xojY5h11r02irlo1_500.jpg
There's been plenty of controversy in this thread, so I wanted to say something about her recent bikini picture and figured I'd say it here and try and contain the controversy to this thread.
If this is indeed a picture of Alizee in a bikini, what is a 27 year old woman doing wearing a bathing suit with a skull in it to the beach? It just boggles my mind. What is going on with this woman? Maybe the French have some holiday similar to our holloween or maybe they're having some type of festival on Corsica? :confused:
They celebrate Halloween the same day we do. Scruffydog we may have a Micheal Jackson situation on our hands. She is trying to get back her teenage years she lost between fifteen and nineteen. Add in geting married and being a young mother at twenty. We've noted many times how Alizée has shown immaturity in her actions for a woman her age.
I'll point out the "Japanese Animation character" she had tattooed on her upper arm. :( Twenty seven year old women normally don't watch cartoons let alone get the characters tattooed on their bodies.
Scruffydog777
07-02-2012, 12:13 PM
I wonder too if it might have to do with the fact that she and her dad were big Madonna fans. Madonna rebelled more or less against religion. Is Alizee rebelling against something? I really can't figure it out. She hasn't shown any signs of it, but I hope she doesn't emulate Madonna and turn against religion. I'm no saint, but that would be the last straw for me if she did.
It seems so ironic. I think most of us believe she left Mylene because she didn't like the direction that Ms Farmer was steering in her in. Now she seems to be steering herself in exactly that direction. I think Jeremy came along and showed her that sordid path MF was trying to direct her down. She didn't like that path. She tried to go in a different direction. She didn't realize that different direction didn't succeed because the music and the show just wasn't that good. She thought that it didn't succeed because she didn't follow that dark path and now, she feels for her to succeed, she will have to follow a path that was so opposite to the one that led to her success.
Panther
07-02-2012, 02:07 PM
I wonder too if it might have to do with the fact that she and her dad were big Madonna fans. Madonna rebelled more or less against religion. Is Alizee rebelling against something? I really can't figure it out. She hasn't shown any signs of it, but I hope she doesn't emulate Madonna and turn against religion. I'm no saint, but that would be the last straw for me if she did.
It seems so ironic. I think most of us believe she left Mylene because she didn't like the direction that Ms Farmer was steering in her in. Now she seems to be steering herself in exactly that direction. I think Jeremy came along and showed her that sordid path MF was trying to direct her down. She didn't like that path. She tried to go in a different direction. She didn't realize that different direction didn't succeed because the music and the show just wasn't that good. She thought that it didn't succeed because she didn't follow that dark path and now, she feels for her to succeed, she will have to follow a path that was so opposite to the one that led to her success.
I know exactly where you are coming from Scruffydog but I wouldn't read too much into the skull / bikini thing. As far as I can make out the skull is just part of the logo / branding of an anglo french fashion company called "The Kooples" and we all know how much Alizee likes to wear the latest high fashion gear.
(edit: I can't post the URL, apparently, due to not having enough posts but check it out)
Anyway I'm not worried about Alizee ever becoming 'sordid'. I just don't think it's a part of who she is.
BrianO1
07-02-2012, 02:08 PM
Or maybe she just likes Skulls? It's not uncommon at all for people to think skulls look cool. As Aaron said....it's quite fashionable right now, skulls I mean.
Aldighieri
07-02-2012, 02:20 PM
S.your thinking are always intriguing..however...
1)SKULLS are the trendy of this year.Most of italian-international singers wear it. Or clothing accessory.Don't overstimate the simbolic meaning of that.A skull is a skull is askul is a skull..
2) Do you think she is on the "bitchy"(Rhianna,Gaga,etc..you know what I mean) path, just because she put on the net a little portion of her belly? Ok it's unusual from her, but I think this is alittle thing.She is miles FAR away the "MIlene" kind of stuff....
I think we are now witness of a"teasing" strategy to catch audience attention.It starts breaking her usual reserve, and discovering social network, chat, etc. Now, the single promotion need something more?(belly out!).Would we see an escalation in the month leading to album debut? Well I'm curious to verify that...
But I repeat..as i know Alizee..I would not expect any of gross or without class from her..
Scruffydog777
07-02-2012, 03:10 PM
Well the truth of that matter is we have no idea what she is really about, but I think we are going to find that out, in the next couple of months. Are you ready?
Aldighieri
07-02-2012, 04:09 PM
We are sir! :D
DrSmith
07-02-2012, 04:11 PM
Wearing skulls isn't anything new for Alizée. Remember her Alexander McQueen scarf?
http://www3.images.coolspotters.com/photos/826680/alizee-and-alexander-mcqueen-skull-scarf-gallery.jpg
And some more recent skull fashion…
http://alizeepuebla.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/5abr2012.jpg?w=627
http://distilleryimage5.instagram.com/f5dce9147dba11e1a87612313804ec91_7.jpg
BrianO1
07-02-2012, 04:36 PM
She also has skull rings. And wore skull scarfs in Mexico. She has liked skulls or years....and years.....and years...and guess what? More years.
Not really a big new thing. ;)
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-02-2012, 05:38 PM
I wonder what she's gonna do with her Jeremy tattoo.
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Panther
07-02-2012, 06:48 PM
I am not at all worried about what Alizee might do, or not do, in the next few months or so. She has always acted with dignity and grace in my opinion and I haven't seen anything over the past year to make me think that she has changed in that respect. As for the tattoos? I can't say I'm a fan of ink on men or women but I'm not going to change my opinion of Lily just because she seems to like them. I have friends with tattoos, that's their choice, it really doesn't mean anything to me and it doesn't alter who they are. I think Alizee looks great at the moment. To be honest I hardly notice the ink ...
BrianO1
07-02-2012, 07:13 PM
I'm not going to change my opinion of Lily just because she seems to like them. I have friends with tattoos, that's their choice, it really doesn't mean anything to me and it doesn't alter who they are. I think Alizee looks great at the moment. To be honest I hardly notice the ink ...
Quoted for making me smile!
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-02-2012, 07:26 PM
I'm gonna get a tattoo of Alizée with her tats and tats on her tats too! so there!... jk lol... Alizée can do whatever she likes!... especially if it involves putting on concerts in America!
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melovelily
07-02-2012, 08:01 PM
As long as she doesn't cover her face or legs with tats i'll be ok :)
And with the way she is getting them on her arms which in random places i don't thing she is gonna have her whole arm covered or at least i hope not
DrSmith
07-02-2012, 08:39 PM
As long as she doesn't cover her face or legs with tats i'll be ok :)
And with the way she is getting them on her arms which in random places i don't thing she is gonna have her whole arm covered or at least i hope not
My prediction (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=225278&postcount=61) was the exact opposite. I think she might keep doing more on her right arm. Lili's latest tattoo (as far as we know) is a little Minnie Mouse next to her Sailor Moon… interesting that Kreayshawn has a Disney character next to Sailor Moon as well… is Alizée using her as a blueprint? :p
I should have believed everyone who said Alizée lurks these forums… Maybe I gave her that idea. :oops:
http://www.ballerstatus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/kreayshawn2.jpg
Above her wrist, Kreayshawn has Hello Kitty painted like a sugar skull. Back to the skull discussion, perhaps a likely future tattoo on Alizée : the popular Dia De Los Muertos sugar skull (http://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/gallery/13-dia-de-los-muertos-and-sugar-skull-tattoos.html).
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Junkmale
07-02-2012, 09:02 PM
I think that alice band she has on in Dr.Smiths 2nd pic (9:11) is very Satanic.
Could she be holding back her hair in that manner to cunningly disguise the 666 she has behind her ear???
Azhiri
07-02-2012, 09:03 PM
I agree with Brian on the skulls. She probably just happens to think they look cool. It's the same as people who like butterfly designs or leopard print. I have a feeling that if she had a penchant for butterflies it wouldn't be a problem :p
Panther
07-02-2012, 09:14 PM
interesting that Kreayshawn has a Disney character next to Sailor Moon as well… is Alizée using her as a blueprint? :p
I hope not. I can live with the ink but if she starts rapping on a regular basis I might need to have a re-think. I had hoped that she'd got that out of her system with Decolage. :(
DrSmith
07-02-2012, 09:18 PM
Hey, Décollage is good. :)
Alizée is a rap fan, but I don't think she'll ever rap full time. Maybe she'll do one track again on her upcoming album.
melovelily
07-02-2012, 09:24 PM
Rap sucks nowadays ... 90's rap though is awsome
I dont want to turn this into a music thread but if there a one thing that i hate its metal how do people listen to it anyways
DrSmith
07-02-2012, 09:30 PM
Rap sucks nowadays ... 90's rap though is awsome
It depends who you listen to. There are some brilliant rappers but they tend not to be the most popular.
I dont want to turn this into a music thread but if there a one thing that i hate its metal how do people listen to it anyways
Aww. After reading Junkmale's last post, I was about to post an Iron Maiden song. I guess that won't go over.
melovelily
07-02-2012, 09:36 PM
It depends who you listen to. There are some brilliant rappers but they tend not to be the most popular.
Aww. After reading Junkmale's last post, I was about to post an Iron Maiden song. I guess that won't go over.
I know there are still great rappers like nas common dre snoop but im talking about the overall it just not the same
And lol just post the song im probably the only metal hater here :))
DrSmith
07-02-2012, 09:47 PM
And lol just post the song im probably the only metal hater here :))
I'm not a metal fan in general but some is good. And I won't post a song, the moment has passed… Plus I don't want to keep going off-topic.
Merci Alizée
07-02-2012, 10:06 PM
Hey, Décollage is good. :)
Alizée is a rap fan, but I don't think she'll ever rap full time. Maybe she'll do one track again on her upcoming album.
Really? IIRC once she said that she dislike rap.
Ray4AJ
07-02-2012, 10:27 PM
The skulls? I never really gave them a second though. I look forward to seeing what pictures she'll post next. I like that she shares the little bit of her life with us. There's probably a little strategy behind it, but I like to think that she enjoys engaging the fans this way. She probably likes seeing what comments she'll get on the pictures. Just my thoughts...
Rap sucks nowadays ... 90's rap though is awsome
I dont want to turn this into a music thread but if there a one thing that i hate its metal how do people listen to it anyways
Alizée's fans seems to be the most diverse when it comes to their music tastes.
Me I can't stand Opera and Gangster Rap.
Classical, Jazz, Swing - Big Band, early country up until mid seventies, mid 50's through early 90's rock/pop, Blues, Motown, Hard Rock, Metal Rock, Glam Rock, Southern Rock, Country Rock, early Rap like the first ten years just to touch on the basics. I can easily go with a snap of my fingers from Abba and the Carpenters to Def Leppard and Judas Priest. :D
Back on topic, One of my employees daughters was into skulls when she was fourteen and fifteen. When she got to mid sixteen she started to grow out of it, and by eighteen she has turned into a major girly girl. So there is hope Alizée will grow out of this stage in her life.
DrSmith
07-02-2012, 10:34 PM
Really? IIRC once she said that she dislike rap.
I believe she is. She definitely likes Jay-Z. She rapped herself, so she can't dislike it too much.
Maybe "rap fan" is too far, but she likes some.
Merci Alizée
07-02-2012, 10:39 PM
I believe she is. She definitely likes Jay-Z. She rapped herself, so she can't dislike it too much.
Hmm, probably her music taste has changed over the years.
BrianO1
07-02-2012, 10:46 PM
So there is hope Alizée will grow out of this stage in her life.
I for one like to hope for things like her continued well being and happiness. Not for her to stop liking trivial things I may not like.
Honestly, first it was the tattoos. Now it's skulls. What is going to be the next " i hope she grows out of..." topic?
Scruffydog777
07-02-2012, 11:24 PM
They celebrate Halloween the same day we do. Scruffydog we may have a Micheal Jackson situation on our hands. She is trying to get back her teenage years she lost between fifteen and nineteen. Add in geting married and being a young mother at twenty. We've noted many times how Alizée has shown immaturity in her actions for a woman her age.
I'll point out the "Japanese Animation character" she had tattooed on her upper arm. :( Twenty seven year old women normally don't watch cartoons let alone get the characters tattooed on their bodies.
My prediction (http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showpost.php?p=225278&postcount=61) was the exact opposite. I think she might keep doing more on her right arm. Lili's latest tattoo (as far as we know) is a little Minnie Mouse next to her Sailor Moon… interesting that Kreayshawn has a Disney character next to Sailor Moon as well… is Alizée using her as a blueprint? :p
I should have believed everyone who said Alizée lurks these forums… Maybe I gave her that idea. :oops:
http://www.ballerstatus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/kreayshawn2.jpg
Above her wrist, Kreayshawn has Hello Kitty painted like a sugar skull. Back to the skull discussion, perhaps a likely future tattoo on Alizée : the popular Dia De Los Muertos sugar skull (http://www.lastsparrowtattoo.com/gallery/13-dia-de-los-muertos-and-sugar-skull-tattoos.html).
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Problem is, Kreayshawn never had the looks of a Princess where as Alizee used to have that look.
It's one thing to wear shirts or scarves with skulls on them, it's quite the other to wear a bikini with one embedded in it. It just looks so ridiculous for a woman her age, but I think there is probably a lot of truth in what ALS has to say.
As far as rap, I don't really like it, but I don't have anything against it. With Alizee's rap song Mon Maquis, even though it's my favorite singer, I don't like to include it in my audio cds for the sake of listening to her voice, but I love to watch the performance, because I think she looked so incredibly beautiful the way she moved acrossed the stage, then danced in front of the drummer.
Actually I do include this song on my audio cds, but it's because I really enjoy the music of LB and as I said before, when I listen to her, I can picture her clear as day and I love the look she used to have.
BrianO1
07-02-2012, 11:27 PM
It just looks so ridiculous for a woman her age,
well obviously that's just your opinion. Since the bikini is a rather expensive designer item, I'm guessing their target buyers were not supposed to be tweens, but rather women Lili's age.
pepelepew
07-02-2012, 11:38 PM
What exactly do skulls represent. Just another thing that bikers,pirates,head shrinkers,witches,witchdoctors, luminati etc. were into along with tattoo's in the past. It's interesting that just about anything from the dark side is popular these days. I guess hanging with a symbol of death like a skull for example, could make you feel alive by comparison lol. Also on the bright side, you are always dressed for halloween. If it feels good do it or I used to believe that.Screw discernment or judgment of any kind. Values judgements are for close minded folks. Only the endoctrinated, I mean the educated know what's best and are so open minded lol.:omg: l
Azhiri
07-02-2012, 11:45 PM
I don't see the skulls as being childish or childlike, but that's just me personally. I don't really ascribe skulls in particular to any age group. Cartoon characters? Sure. Hello Kitty? That too. Not skulls. If you want to put a lot of thought into the skulls, think of what they commonly symbolize: death. That seems like a perfectly mature subject to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skull_symbolism
Again, I think she maybe just happens to like the way they look. I think they look cool too, especially the ones DrSmith linked - sugar skulls from the Dia de los Muertos. As others have pointed out, skulls appear on lots of fashionable items made for grown women like Alexander McQueen scarves (http://www.alexandermcqueen.co.uk/scarf-boutique/skull-scarves/silk-skull-scarves/ACFA,en_GB,sc.html?scarf3d=false), and the bikini in question with the skull on it. I guess that bikini might make for a funny skull-shaped tan line, but I think it's really cool.
I really don't see any reason to see the skulls as immature, tasteless or silly. Besides, it's her personal sense of style... it seems really wrong to me that we are trying to dictate what she wears and whether she gets tattoos. :( She does not belong to us and as a grown women she can wear what she wants. She doesn't owe us anything just because she puts herself out there as a musician for us to listen to, either. I'm sure you guys would be really sad if someone tried to tell you what to wear and called your sense of style a silly phase.
BrianO1
07-02-2012, 11:46 PM
It's interesting that just about anything from the dark side is popular these days.
That's because it's no longer considered part of " the dark side". Times have changed.
It seems really wrong to me that we are trying to dictate what she wears and whether she gets tattoos. :( She does not belong to us and as a grown women she can wear what she wants. She doesn't owe us anything just because she puts herself out there as a musician for us to listen to, either.
And today's best post goes to..... AZHIRI!!!
Euphoria
07-03-2012, 12:11 AM
I can't say I'm really into skulls or cartoon characters, but I like that Alizee is not afraid to wear what she likes. I see a lot of young girls and women trying too hard to look a certain way, whether it be classy, trendy, feminine, edgy, whatever. Alizee dresses rather simply and I think she has a pretty good idea of what looks good on her body and she never looks like she's trying too hard.
By the way, if you're a Mylene fan, you'd know she recently went through a huge skull phase and the woman is almost 50!
pepelepew
07-03-2012, 12:19 AM
That's because it's no longer considered part of " the dark side". Times have changed.
I'm not sure about that Brian, but the times sure have changed, I'll give you that. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig or it allows them to fly. I'm just not sure anymore. Paranoia is really a heightened state of awareness without the delusions lol.:confused:
And today's best post goes to..... AZHIRI!!!
Yea, she always makes good posts:bow:
S.your thinking are always intriguing..however...
1)SKULLS are the trendy of this year.Most of italian-international singers wear it. Or clothing accessory.Don't overstimate the simbolic meaning of that.A skull is a skull is askul is a skull..
2) Do you think she is on the "bitchy"(Rhianna,Gaga,etc..you know what I mean) path, just because she put on the net a little portion of her belly? Ok it's unusual from her, but I think this is alittle thing.She is miles FAR away the "MIlene" kind of stuff....
I think we are now witness of a"teasing" strategy to catch audience attention.It starts breaking her usual reserve, and discovering social network, chat, etc. Now, the single promotion need something more?(belly out!).Would we see an escalation in the month leading to album debut? Well I'm curious to verify that...
But I repeat..as i know Alizee..I would not expect any of gross or without class from her..
I agree in general. Before each of the last couple of albums she did one photo shoot that was controversial (hot). This picture is perfectly within that practice.
I think the suit looks GREAT on her (assuming it is her - and the jury is still out on that one).
With regards to the skulls, this has been a recurring theme with her for years. The symbolism obviously means something to her. If I had a question to ask this would probably be it: What do the skulls symbolize? It could have a special meaning on the island, or some mystical meaning for her. Or it could simply be that she likes the symbol. Without asking her we will never know. :)
Scruffydog777
07-03-2012, 05:08 AM
Well if all these forums said were things in support of her tatoos, she may have gotten more than she already has. Do you think maybe we should suggest some tatoos to her and also suggest some other areas of her body she should cover with them?
Like I've said before there will be more to come before that upcoming event in Paris. Right now at least she has still one good profile left. Will that be ruined? Will her midriff or her legs be next? Maybe we should do like I suggested and reccomend some tatoos, at least they'll be something to our liking. Maybe a big AlizeeAmerica on the front of her right thigh?
Aldighieri
07-03-2012, 05:25 AM
Rev, What's the "controversial" shoot are you talking? :13:
Maybe it's cos the italian standard about "hot" pics is higher (we have a curious cultural primeval tradition named Monica Bellucci here), but I don't remember any controversial..maybe the "B/W" one? It's harmless in my opinion.
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-03-2012, 06:19 AM
I can't say I'm really into skulls or cartoon characters, but I like that Alizee is not afraid to wear what she likes. I see a lot of young girls and women trying too hard to look a certain way, whether it be classy, trendy, feminine, edgy, whatever. Alizee dresses rather simply and I think she has a pretty good idea of what looks good on her body and she never looks like she's trying too hard.
By the way, if you're a Mylene fan, you'd know she recently went through a huge skull phase and the woman is almost 50!
I'm going through a "being a fan of Alizée even though she is wearing skulls" phase! :)
para.izée
07-03-2012, 07:47 AM
Maybe it's cos the italian standard about "hot" pics is higher (we have a curious cultural primeval tradition named Monica Bellucci here), but I don't remember any controversial..maybe the "B/W" one? It's harmless in my opinion.
:)(: Here's Alizee's Idea of a "HOT" picture:
http://distilleryimage9.s3.amazonaws.com/aa707fe8c37611e1bf341231380f8a12_7.jpg
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That's 107 Farenheit to us 'mericans
And I'm NOT talking about Mickey D's Hot coffee!...:omg:
Panther
07-03-2012, 08:40 AM
Have a look at her latest picture on her instagram (which I can't upload)
Skulls are in! :))
Rictor
07-03-2012, 09:24 AM
Hmm...I just noticed that my favorite pic of her happens to be one where she is wearing a watch with a skull design on the face of it. Didn't even pay much attention to it until you guys brought up the skull fixation. So that means this can't be a recent thing, since that pic was taken back in the Psych era. (You know, when she had her bob hairstyle with one side noticeably shorter than the other.)
She's into animations and cartoons and skulls. Wonder if she's a Punisher fan. :o
If so, EASIEST HALLOWEEN COSTUME EVER!
http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/punisher-thomas-jane.jpg
:dance:
Rev, What's the "controversial" shoot are you talking? :13:
Maybe it's cos the italian standard about "hot" pics is higher (we have a curious cultural primeval tradition named Monica Bellucci here), but I don't remember any controversial..maybe the "B/W" one? It's harmless in my opinion.
By "controversial" I mean a shoot that surprised her fans. There was the Madonna "Boy Toy" shot, and the B&W photos showing some skin.
I'm not comparing her to others (especially not Monica) just to herself. :)
Aldighieri
07-03-2012, 11:02 AM
It's logic.Thanks for answer.;)
Have a look at her latest picture on her instagram (which I can't upload) Skulls are in! :))
Did you catch the skull in this picture ?
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/417065_318381124890568_183875408_n.jpg
Panther
07-03-2012, 12:58 PM
:omg: they are everywhere! Run for the hills!
:)))
I'm betting she's a George Romero Fan. :)
DrSmith
07-03-2012, 02:20 PM
:omg: they are everywhere! Run for the hills!
:)))
Run for your liiiiives!
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Jake04
07-03-2012, 05:02 PM
I for one like to hope for things like her continued well being and happiness. Not for her to stop liking trivial things I may not like.
Honestly, first it was the tattoos. Now it's skulls. What is going to be the next " i hope she grows out of..." topic?
Don't forget about the piercings! :p And we know she grew out of it. So, there's hope that she'll grow out of tattoos as well. :pray:
I'm not really worried about this skull thing - unless she decides to get a skull tattoo!:yikes:
(I hope I didn't give her any ideas.:D)
BrianO1
07-03-2012, 06:21 PM
So, there's hope that she'll grow out of tattoos as well. :pray:
You missed the point. Why pray for someone to grow out of something YOU may not like, instead of simply respected the persons right to live their own life? If she starts doing something dangerous, then yeah, I would agree that we should say something. But to get so worked up because you don't like her fashion sense???? :confused:
Un-rêve
07-03-2012, 08:14 PM
Right now at least she has still one good profile left. Will that be ruined? Will her midriff or her legs be next? Maybe we should do like I suggested and reccomend some tatoos, at least they'll be something to our liking. Maybe a big AlizeeAmerica on the front of her right thigh?
You know she might already have a goldfish tattood on her behind. :D
Well as for her legs, Cheryl Cole had this one done..
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3999/cheryllegtat.jpg
I read somewhere that she regrets getting it though. It looks fine to me and the one on her hand is quite trendy but
Alizée has more than enough.
Euphoria
07-03-2012, 09:28 PM
A thorny vine with roses...so 90s. I'd regret it too.
Un-rêve
07-03-2012, 09:52 PM
A thorny vine with roses...so 90s. I'd regret it too.
Well yeah.. but the point is she already regrets it 90's or not. If Alizée ever regrets getting hers is another matter though.. well she probaly will. :(
HelixSix
07-03-2012, 10:21 PM
You missed the point. Why pray for someone to grow out of something YOU may not like, instead of simply respected the persons right to live their own life? If she starts doing something dangerous, then yeah, I would agree that we should say something. But to get so worked up because you don't like her fashion sense???? :confused:
It's more than fashion sense to other people, at least to me, because I've seen people get on this pathway to personal self destruction. It's the most irritating when girls ignore your advice then a year or two later come back and say "you were right" after the damage has been permanently done.
There's an argument to me made for waiting too long to say something. For instance if somebody is showing signs of being an alcoholic, especially while hanging with sketchy people while being emotionally vulnerable, I think you say something rather than waiting until they are a danger to themselves and and others.
Being marked for life (literally) is more than just a fashion phase.
Jake04
07-03-2012, 10:57 PM
You missed the point. Why pray for someone to grow out of something YOU may not like, instead of simply respected the persons right to live their own life? If she starts doing something dangerous, then yeah, I would agree that we should say something. But to get so worked up because you don't like her fashion sense???? :confused:
It's really very hard for me to feel happy for her if she ends up looking ike the women below.
(BTW, the one on the left is Sinéad O'Connor. She was an extremely talented and beautiful singer who made poor choices in her life. I'm sure no one here would like Alizee to end up like her.)
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8615/picture1gz.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/140/picture1gz.jpg/)
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8405/clipboardqn.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/clipboardqn.jpg/)
Scruffydog777
07-04-2012, 12:34 AM
As far as women are concerned, i really don't like any tatoos. Of the ones posted above, the two bottom ones look horrible as well as the ones on the woman on the upper left. Now the woman in the upper right is a very beautiful woman. I'd much rather see her without these tatoos, but these tatoos are very well done. They are done by a person who is artiscticly gifted, but Alizee's tatoos are so willy nilly, so helter skelter, they can in no way be compared to the tats of the woman in the upper right. They are very close to the horrible category of the other three.
Azhiri
07-04-2012, 12:57 AM
Now the woman in the upper right is a very beautiful woman. I'd much rather see her without these tatoos, but these tatoos are very well done. They are done by a person who is artiscticly gifted, but Alizee's tatoos are so willy nilly, so helter skelter, they can in no way be compared to the tats of the woman in the upper right. They are very close to the horrible category of the other three.
This is my gripe with Alizee's tattoos. I think even a sleeve would be good if done tastefully and well thought-out, but hers are just kind of random and there doesn't seem to be any particular rhyme or reason to their placement or the tattoos themselves.
I still respect her decision to do what she will since it is her personal skin, but I do wish they had more of a flow.
Also, does anyone happen to know the name of the fragrance in this picture? At least I'm pretty sure that's a perfume bottle..
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/417065_318381124890568_183875408_n.jpg
DrSmith
07-04-2012, 01:10 AM
Also, does anyone happen to know the name of the fragrance in this picture? At least I'm pretty sure that's a perfume bottle.
L'Eau Neuve de Lubin.
Azhiri
07-04-2012, 01:21 AM
Thank you sir :wub:
SpanishFan
07-04-2012, 02:18 PM
I think even a sleeve would be good if done tastefully and well thought-out, but hers are just kind of random and there doesn't seem to be any particular rhyme or reason to their placement or the tattoos themselves.
And the post of the day goes to... Azhiri!!:p
Aldighieri
07-04-2012, 03:24 PM
Is Alizee Yakuza member? :13:
Is Alizee Yakuza member? :13:
Not Mean Enough.
Scruffydog777
07-04-2012, 03:57 PM
This is my gripe with Alizee's tattoos. I think even a sleeve would be good if done tastefully and well thought-out, but hers are just kind of random and there doesn't seem to be any particular rhyme or reason to their placement or the tattoos themselves.
I still respect her decision to do what she will since it is her personal skin, but I do wish they had more of a flow.
And the post of the day goes to... Azhiri!!:p
Touché....
If these tats hurt her career or her love life, it's only herself that is getting hurt, so should it matter as long as it makes her happy? But that statement is not 100% accurate. However, unfortunately or maybe fortunately that's as far as we can go in that direction.
Euphoria
07-12-2012, 12:35 PM
So I know a lot of people get upset over these tattoos, and I wanted to talk about the deeper meaning behind them. Especially since I've been looking up her fashion and accessories, it is obvious now that Alizee is the kind of person who loves trinkets and charms.
We already knew that her Tinkerbell is supposed to be a protector for her, but the Sailor Moon is interesting to me. In the animation, Sailor Moon transforms from a regular girl into a superhero. So if I were to read into it, I would think Alizee sees herself the same way. She sees herself as a regular girl becoming stronger. People generally don't get tattoos of things they just like, it has a special significance to them.
What do you guys think?
Panther
07-12-2012, 05:11 PM
So I know a lot of people get upset over these tattoos, and I wanted to talk about the deeper meaning behind them. Especially since I've been looking up her fashion and accessories, it is obvious now that Alizee is the kind of person who loves trinkets and charms.
We already knew that her Tinkerbell is supposed to be a protector for her, but the Sailor Moon is interesting to me. In the animation, Sailor Moon transforms from a regular girl into a superhero. So if I were to read into it, I would think Alizee sees herself the same way. She sees herself as a regular girl becoming stronger. People generally don't get tattoos of things they just like, it has a special significance to them.
What do you guys think?
Ok, I'll have a stab at this. I get the impression that she is 'naturally' quite shy and modest but these tendencies conflict with her desire to 'perform' - especially in public - so she creates a persona, supported by symbols of strength etc, (eg tats, skulls, lucky charms etc) in order to combat her natural tendencies and overcome any feelings of vulnerability. She clearly isn't arrogant or brash or 'in-your-face' like some performers are and of course this is all a part of her charm. I think her feelings of vulnerability are quite obvious when she is performing and it's something I find especially enchanting.
For me, so much of what makes Alizee so special as a performer is as much about all the things that she isn't, as much as what she is.
It's all very refreshing.
Edit:
Is this a new tatttoo and is this a skull? Your thoughts please?
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg17/Panther_058/8a5a756a.jpg
Euphoria
07-12-2012, 05:30 PM
I don't think that's anything, just a shadow or a reflection.
So I know a lot of people get upset over these tattoos, and I wanted to talk about the deeper meaning behind them. Especially since I've been looking up her fashion and accessories, it is obvious now that Alizee is the kind of person who loves trinkets and charms.
We already knew that her Tinkerbell is supposed to be a protector for her, but the Sailor Moon is interesting to me. In the animation, Sailor Moon transforms from a regular girl into a superhero. So if I were to read into it, I would think Alizee sees herself the same way. She sees herself as a regular girl becoming stronger. People generally don't get tattoos of things they just like, it has a special significance to them.
What do you guys think?
see post 346. :)
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-12-2012, 09:11 PM
She needs to get a tatoo of her skin color over top her tatoos :p or just get a full-body tatoo of her body without tatoos :p
Careful Aaron... she may reply to your post in the form of her next tattoo! :)))
Euphoria
07-12-2012, 09:34 PM
see post 346. :)
Haha nice, guess I missed it. :p
VVVACCPLPNLY
07-13-2012, 03:25 PM
i ... really dont want to go through all these posts... yes im lazy but i went at least through page nine so i think i did my time...... could someone post a clearer pic if there is one?
texasguy
07-14-2012, 05:53 AM
http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/512935a0cd9511e1bf341231380f8a12_7.jpg
Right forearm is now covered.
melovelily
07-14-2012, 06:24 AM
........
At least we know there is nothing covering her shoulder :)
Yet
Bigdan
07-14-2012, 07:06 AM
http://danbousq.perso.sfr.fr/post/tatoo.jpg
Bigger and on the good side.
Are we sure there is something new?
melovelily
07-14-2012, 07:18 AM
http://danbousq.perso.sfr.fr/post/tatoo.jpg
Bigger and on the good side.
Are we sure there is something new?
Her sailor moon is above her elbow and anime girl is on the other side
Probably a new tattoo :(
Karin
07-14-2012, 08:00 AM
1. look better on full image
http://distilleryimage0.s3.amazonaws.com/c1cd78d4cb4711e19b0622000a1e8a4f_7.jpg
in the window you can see other people, soo what you see can be reflecter part of their clothes...
2. whats this... hm... she is hiding it on new photo
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/975/tatooy.jpg
http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/bb2054d0cda811e18fe222000a1cdf77_7.jpg
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-14-2012, 09:09 AM
Alizée in yoga pants makes my heart beat so fast! :wub:
and those people on the other side of the window are just totally oblivious to her beauty.
Too bad the reflection doesn't do her legs justice.
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I just realized looking at these recent pictures how petite Dancerman is.
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-14-2012, 11:09 AM
I just realized looking at these recent pictures how petite Dancerman is.
It took you this long? I knew how small he was from the beginning. I mean, Alizée is petite and she practically dwarfs him! lol
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Jake04
07-14-2012, 11:48 AM
2. whats this... hm... she is hiding it on new photo
http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/bb2054d0cda811e18fe222000a1cdf77_7.jpg
Yup! It looks like she's trying to hide it from us!
BrianO1
07-14-2012, 11:51 AM
Why would she be trying to hide it.....if she posted another picture where it's visable?
Jake04
07-14-2012, 12:02 PM
It's just curious to see her holding a napkin over her new tats instead of her giving us the usual "V" sign.
Panther
07-14-2012, 12:28 PM
I know some people don't like tattoos full stop. I think some look ok on some people and some don't look so good. However, I also think some people tend to judge people who have tattoos negatively but now that Alizee has tattoos surely it's time to re-evaluate the negative connotations?
Just sayin' ...
I still think she is as adorable as she ever was.
Edit:
Why would she be trying to hide it.....if she posted another picture where it's visable?
Maybe she wants to keep the sun off it as it's new?
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-14-2012, 12:51 PM
Why would she be trying to hide it.....if she posted another picture where it's visable?
She is not ready to let the world know she put "I love TDA!" on her arm yet! :p
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It took you this long? I knew how small he was from the beginning. I mean, Alizée is petite and she practically dwarfs him! lol
In other pictures he looked taller by three or four inches over her because he is always standing behind her in the mirror shot. It wasn't until I saw him standing with the three little ladies that it hit me how tall he really is. I sometimes forget that Alizée is only 5'3" but with that group picture at the dance studio it's obvious how tall he really is. If you watch her in Les Enfoiries you can see how tiny she is compared to the other women in the show other than Mimi. When I saw her standing next to those other two woman it hit me how petite they all are when compared to Alizée.
Then you see Dancerman behind them and it all came together.
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-14-2012, 02:17 PM
In other pictures he looked taller by three or four inches over her because he is always standing behind her in the mirror shot. It wasn't until I saw him standing with the three little ladies that it hit me how tall he really is. I sometimes forget that Alizée is only 5'3" but with that group picture at the dance studio it's obvious how tall he really is. If you watch her in Les Enfoiries you can see how tiny she is compared to the other women in the show other than Mimi. When I saw her standing next to those other two woman it hit me how petite they all are when compared to Alizée.
Then you see Dancerman behind them and it all came together.
:giggle: ... I know what you mean... sometimes we forget how petitet Alizée really is because we see her in photos and in video and not in real life. And so we don't think much of the size of other people surounding her... Average size dudes probably look really big next to her. If you think about it, having a petite dance partner is probably advantageous for her because he can relate to her posture and dance moves for her weight and size.
Azhiri
07-14-2012, 05:36 PM
2. whats this... hm... she is hiding it on new photo
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/975/tatooy.jpg
http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/bb2054d0cda811e18fe222000a1cdf77_7.jpg
It's just curious to see her holding a napkin over her new tats instead of her giving us the usual "V" sign.
The tattoo was probably still "fresh" at that point. When you get a tattoo, you're supposed to keep it wrapped up like that because otherwise it could get infected (it's kind of like an open wound at that point from the needle). She probably went to get the tattoo and then go out for dinner with her friends, sounds like she had a fun day. :)
Junkmale
07-14-2012, 06:11 PM
Looks to me that it's just the way she is holding the napkin? Also, like Azhiri says, when they are new they should be covered up for a few days to prevent infection. And they are sore and really itchy!
Besides (as we've said before) tattoo's are a personal thing. You don't get them specifically so that other people can see them. Otherwise people would get them on the middle of their faces?
SpanishFan
07-14-2012, 10:09 PM
Until now it was kind of "a tattoo here and a tattoo there..." thing. At this point it's clear she has no intention of stopping, so I hope at the end all the ink she gets don't look too bad.
Kat von D is imo a beautiful woman even with tattoos on her face so I am getting ready for what is going to happen in the next months with Alizée...
http://lastdivetradition.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/kat_von_d002.jpg
http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2011/07/28/139479-tattoo-artist-kat-von-d-poses-at-the-premiere-of-jackass-3d-at-grauman.jpg
Junkmale
07-14-2012, 10:40 PM
I like German singer Lafee. She has a tattoo on her face (not sure if it's permanent, but i think it is?). It looks ok and she would be 'funny' looking now without it.
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rRO0fFGEocA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
MasterSprtn117
07-14-2012, 11:20 PM
I'm not gonna lie. Every time I see this thread at the top of the Latest Discussion on the front page, I think, "Oh boy..."
Future Raptor Ace
07-14-2012, 11:41 PM
I'm not gonna lie. Every time I see this thread at the top of the Latest Discussion on the front page, I think, "Oh boy..."
A lot of us feel the exact same way!
melovelily
07-14-2012, 11:49 PM
*2003 fans went to their forums to find alizee doing the jeam*
*current fans get to their forums to find out that alizee got a new tattoo*
Euphoria
07-15-2012, 12:04 AM
Well I think she looks great, myself.
http://i.imgur.com/PvcDQ.jpg
Before I get ripped to shreds, its a JOKE. :D I feel like people are taking these tattoos way too seriously so this is my attempt to get people to lighten up. :o
User22
07-15-2012, 12:27 AM
Thankoo Euphoria...it made me laugh :D
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-15-2012, 01:02 AM
Until now it was kind of "a tattoo here and a tattoo there..." thing. At this point it's clear she has no intention of stopping, so I hope at the end all the ink she gets don't look too bad.
Kat von D is imo a beautiful woman even with tattoos on her face so I am getting ready for what is going to happen in the next months with Alizée...
http://lastdivetradition.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/kat_von_d002.jpg
http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2011/07/28/139479-tattoo-artist-kat-von-d-poses-at-the-premiere-of-jackass-3d-at-grauman.jpg
I got that first pic of Kat Von D hanging in a huge frame in the loft of my home... I'd take a picture of it but I'm not home right now.
Edit:
Well I think she looks great, myself.
http://i.imgur.com/PvcDQ.jpg
Before I get ripped to shreds, its a JOKE. :D I feel like people are taking these tattoos way too seriously so this is my attempt to get people to lighten up. :o
You mean you don't think she's not wearing enough clothes this time? ... :omg:
Azhiri
07-15-2012, 01:33 AM
Well I think she looks great, myself.
http://i.imgur.com/PvcDQ.jpg
I lost it when I saw the cat on her leg. And the thigh rose a la Cheryl.
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-15-2012, 02:22 AM
I lost it when I saw the cat on her leg. And the thigh rose a la Cheryl.
Mini on the shoulder made me LOL!
Let's take a vote.
Who wants this:
http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=182&pictureid=1801
To turn into this:
http://lastdivetradition.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/kat_von_d002.jpg
I don't. :( :(
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-15-2012, 04:18 AM
Let's vote...
Who likes Alizée for who she is and wants her to be happy?
And who thinks Alizée should live the life that her fans dictate even if it makes her miserable?
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JoeNY
07-15-2012, 04:33 AM
Let's vote...
Who likes Alizée for who she is and wants her to be happy?
And who thinks Alizée should live the life that her fans dictate even if it makes her miserable?
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I'm voting to control Alizee's life because obviously, she has no control over herself. Sure she'll be unhappy for awhile, but in the long run, she'll thank us. Just think about it. Jeremy sees Alizee at Eurobest in 2003, and we're there to intervene. "Sorry Jeremy, keep walking. Alizee is already married...to us." :p
That pic of Alizee in the bikini with hypothetical, random, meaningless tattoos is hilarious. :)) Still, there's so much truth in it. Thank about it as a Jeopardy question: lizard, anime doll, Sailor Moon, etc.
pepelepew
07-15-2012, 05:04 AM
Let's vote...
Who likes Alizée for who she is and wants her to be happy?
And who thinks Alizée should live the life that her fans dictate even if it makes her miserable?
Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2Liking or disliking anything Alizee does has nothing to do with her personal happiness. She is a Cele brate ee. That means that fans or anyone else for that matter, have opinions that may be good, bad, or ugly about a celebrity. They make the choice to be in the public eye, so all of it is par for the course. If they can't stand the heat, they can get out of the kitchen, so to speak. She is obviously not a people pleaser making choices just to please others, and that is a good thing. I as a fan don't have to be a lemming and only have frosting coated opinions about her or anyone else. You either like spinach or you don't. Making judgements about someone's opinions about Alizee is ludicrous and pointless. At the same time I agree that posts should be measured and within respectable limits.I personally hate tats on anyone, so why would I like them on Alizee. They are ugly to me. It is what it is. So tell me how I'm supposed to like spinach if I hate it. How does that work? I once felt that Alizee was a one in a million pop star and now at least physically, she is a dime a dozen just like the rest of them. It is what it is. Tell me how I'm supposed to like Alizee's tats when I hate them. How does that work? :confused:
melovelily
07-15-2012, 05:55 AM
Let's just hope whatever caused alizee to remove that piercing she had happens to her
again but this time for tats ofcourse ( duh )
Future Raptor Ace
07-15-2012, 09:39 AM
So do you guys think it was really Jeremy who had her in check all these years and now shes back to being a wild kid again? Im actually kind of worried about her; this all seems too spontaneous to me.
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-15-2012, 12:00 PM
...how I'm supposed to like Alizee's tats when I hate them. How does that work? :confused:
I'm not saying you have to like her tattoos, but does it change the way you feel about her music and dancing? It shouldn't. Unless you liked her for her body. But she's a musician, dancer, and entertainer first. She happens to have the body of a model, but she doesn't do runway. So why worry?... If she were a male basketball player we wouldn't be on her like "Oh Em Gee, another tattoo!" so why are we like that when talking about a female musician?
So do you guys think it was really Jeremy who had her in check all these years and now shes back to being a wild kid again? Im actually kind of worried about her; this all seems too spontaneous to me.
I have an ex-employee like that. Her husband kept her somewhat in check. Two years ago he falls over dead with a Heart Attack. Six months later she becomes this wild child type who sleeping around with guys she is meeting on the Internet dating sights. Attitude went from tolerable to a nightmare where she could do not wrong in her mind and was winding up my employees over nothing, stirring the pot as they say.
She meets this guy online and went to Arizona for a long weekend. three months later moves out there to be with him. For me it was one of the happiest days of my life when that psycho quit. :bow: Nine months later, things have greatly improved with Employee moral with her out of here.
With Alizée you would think with her living at home her mom and dad could give her some guidance. I wish they would sit her down and show her what she is doing to her body isn't something normal woman her age do.
I'm wondering if Dog Boy (Rin Tin Tin) and his tattoo parlor is the one putting it in Alizée's head, that she is going to be his star attraction at the Tattoo convention he's hosting. Alizée is so hungry to be on top again, that might be the reason for these spontaneous tattoos she is plastering all over her body.
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-15-2012, 12:07 PM
So do you guys think it was really Jeremy who had her in check all these years and now shes back to being a wild kid again? Im actually kind of worried about her; this all seems too spontaneous to me.
All I know is Alizée is single... I'm single .... and... well..... I'm single. hehehe...
Jeremy who? lol
If he did keep her in "check" his rule must have been that all tats had to be in reference to him or Anilly. I would consider that to be more controlling and dictating.
Euphoria
07-15-2012, 01:10 PM
Alizee is a follower of trends. Ever since I've been looking into what she wears, it's been obvious. Now, I'm pretty sure that rolls over into other aspects of her life. She wants to be seen as trendy and current, and that's probably why she is getting all these tattoos. Tattoos aren't really taboo anymore, tons of people are getting them because it's the cool thing to do. I'm sure they do have some meaning for her, but most people that are REALLY into tattoos don't just go get random tattoos every week to symbolize how much they love Tweety bird or whatever.
Edit:
Let's vote...
Who likes Alizée for who she is and wants her to be happy?
And who thinks Alizée should live the life that her fans dictate even if it makes her miserable?
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If gurl needs tattoos to truly be happy, she got bigger problems going on.
Edit for wrong quote :D
Future Raptor Ace
07-15-2012, 01:15 PM
Alizee is a follower of trends. Ever since I've been looking into what she wears, it's been obvious. Now, I'm pretty sure that rolls over into other aspects of her life. She wants to be seen as trendy and current, and that's probably why she is getting all these tattoos. Tattoos aren't really taboo anymore, tons of people are getting them because it's the cool thing to do. I'm sure they do have some meaning for her, but most people that are REALLY into tattoos don't just go get random tattoos every week to symbolize how much they love Tweety bird or whatever.
Edit:
If gurl needs tattoos to truly be happy, she got bigger problems going on.
Edit for wrong quote :D
And that is what worries me! I agree, who knows what problems the stress of recent years has caused her. I just have the problem where I cant take her seriously anymore and I dont know if I ever could.
SpanishFan
07-15-2012, 01:42 PM
You can have a couple of tattoos because is the trend or you like how they look in your body. But I don't think she's following the trend now, I think is more like an habit for her right now.
I mean, today July 15, seventh month of the year. How many tattoos did she get during these seven months of 2012?
The bird, the Forever Young one, Sailor Moon, Minny Mouse, now her forearm...
And probably there will be more coming in the next few months.
Since all we can do is guessing about the reasons for this increase in the number of tattoos in a shorter space of time, here is my guess: I don't think she has a serious problem or going through a wild period.
If she took her daughter for a trip around the world and forgetting about the rest of the world or something like that, I would think then that she acting in a rebel way. But the tattoos are just another aspect of her life, maybe a little addiction to the ink that she has, or maybe something she can have her mind ocuppied with , because I am 100% sure that as soon as she leaves the Tin Tin shop with a new tattoo, she is already thinking about the next one.
The not so good thing about this aspect of her life is that is very evident and changes her image and looks, and as consecuence there are some fans who don't like tattoos, other fans that don't mind about them, and others that don't mind about tatoos but think that Alizée's in particular are not great choices because size, colour, placement...
Yes, I Know, I am captain obvious...
lefty12357
07-15-2012, 02:12 PM
Alizee is a follower of trends. Ever since I've been looking into what she wears, it's been obvious. Now, I'm pretty sure that rolls over into other aspects of her life. She wants to be seen as trendy and current, and that's probably why she is getting all these tattoos. Tattoos aren't really taboo anymore, tons of people are getting them because it's the cool thing to do. I'm sure they do have some meaning for her, but most people that are REALLY into tattoos don't just go get random tattoos every week to symbolize how much they love Tweety bird or whatever.
Edit:
If gurl needs tattoos to truly be happy, she got bigger problems going on.
Edit for wrong quote :D
Totally agree.
You can have a couple of tattoos because is the trend or you like how they look in your body. But I don't think she's following the trend now, I think is more like an habit for her right now.
I mean, today July 15, seventh month of the year. How many tattoos did she get during these seven months of 2012?
The bird, the Forever Young one, Sailor Moon, Minny Mouse, now her forearm...
And probably there will be more coming in the next few months.
Since all we can do is guessing about the reasons for this increase in the number of tattoos in a shorter space of time, here is my guess: I don't think she has a serious problem or going through a wild period.
If she took her daughter for a trip around the world and forgetting about the rest of the world or something like that, I would think then that she acting in a rebel way. But the tattoos are just another aspect of her life, maybe a little addiction to the ink that she has, or maybe something she can have her mind ocuppied with , because I am 100% sure that as soon as she leaves the Tin Tin shop with a new tattoo, she is already thinking about the next one.
The not so good thing about this aspect of her life is that is very evident and changes her image and looks, and as consecuence there are some fans who don't like tattoos, other fans that don't mind about them, and others that don't mind about tatoos but think that Alizée's in particular are not great choices because size, colour, placement...
Yes, I Know, I am captain obvious...
Totally agree.
I would just like to add for my part that I am not worried or concerned about Alizée because of this trend in getting tattoos. I also believe there is no deep, dark reason for it, nor do I think she is going through some drastic change. I think she is still the same Alizée and she just loves tattoos and is following the trend. Personally, I am not a fan of tattoos, and I don’t think Alizée’s tattoos in particular do anything for her appearance or image. To me, her choice of tattoos seems to present an image of someone who is still childlike inside. At her age, soon to release her 5th album, I guess I am expecting an artist that is more mature. I guess that does disappoint me somewhat. But I’ve said it many times before - it’s her choice and her body. She has the right to decide what she likes, and so do I. I just keep my dislike for her tattoos separate from how I feel about her music.
But I admit, I would hate to see her like this:
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/7154/coeurdepirate.jpg
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-15-2012, 04:06 PM
ROFLMAO!... we keep better track of Alizée's tattoos than astronomers do stars in the sky!... The sad part is, keeping track is beginning to be as tedious as astronomy... we're gonna have to start naming groups of her tats like constellations! LOL!
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Future Raptor Ace
07-15-2012, 04:49 PM
ROFLMAO!... we keep better track of Alizée's tattoos than astronomers do stars in the sky!... The sad part is, keeping track is beginning to be as tedious as astronomy... we're gonna have to start naming groups of her tats like constellations! LOL!
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Ok so let me be the first to coin the lizard on her leg as the singularity that started the Big Bang.
Tat or not, she's still hot.
:wub:
Taxi Driver Aaron
07-15-2012, 05:14 PM
Ok so let me be the first to coin the lizard on her leg as the singularity that started the Big Bang.
I'd get edited for sure if I were to stake my claim! lol
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