Random Alizée photos posted just because

[CleverCowboy]

It would be good if they did get a message telling them of the ban and the length. Maybe even with space for a comment giving them a short explanation.

I think the ban message is a default function of the version of vBulletin that is hosting this forum, which is pretty aged. As Scruffy mentioned, a banned member can still read the threads, so if the length of the ban is mentioned in the ban post, it would give the member a heads up on when it is lifted (if ever).

[Fall]

The fact that this ban was for 731 days, might as well be a life time ban in my opinion. Who's going to stick around that long?

How do you know it was for 731 days? I only told CleverCowboy and MerciAlizée in a private group chat that it was a two year ban and that it "can of course be modified or reversed."

I've been told that there's no such thing as a Private Message on this forum and that people are always sharing this-and-that, and so-and-so told me this, so I guess if we're just going to bare it all out there I might as well explain to all why I took those actions.

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As you can see in the screenshot above, I first raised the issue of LCC's behavior on March 15th, almost three weeks ago. In that time she heavily criticized Alizée's blonde hair, her tattoos, and her nose. On the first post in which she criticized Alizée's nose, she made a point to say that she knows someone will have words to say about it. She clearly expected and in my opinion invited controversy. Textbook troll behavior.

As I said in the conversation above, I was active on AAm when LCC first joined the forum in 2009. While yes, one may raise the question that it is not fair to consider ten year old posts as grounds for banning, she clearly stayed away from the site for a number of years. She posted three times (a fourth post was deleted by Ruroshen) in 2009 and did not post again until 2018.

There was some confusion about a post with Scruffy after which we talked on the AAm Chatbox. He noted that at the time she had posted 7 times in 9 years.

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Despite the long absence, it wasn't long before the same vitriolic attitude resurfaced. I held off on any action when she ranted about the blonde hair and the tattoos because after all, we have had a number of people do the same with no consequence. There's no real reason to start now. When she first brought up the nose, though my instincts immediately told me she was trying to start something, I again did nothing because she posted on April 1st. I gave her the benefit of the doubt that it was an April Fool's joke. But despite the reaction going from "haha" to lukewarm, to "enough," she continued to insist that Alizée was flawed and that God should have spent more time creating her. She compared Alizée to a horse.

So I banned her, and I have no regrets about doing so. :no: That is what I felt (and continue to feel) should be done in light of everything that had happened to that point. I would do the same if God, a horse (:p), Ben, and Alizée were standing there watching. The only thing I would do different is recommend a ban to Vibhash and John beforehand.

I decided on a two year ban because it is the longest non-permanent ban setting, and with LCC's history of coming and going every 9 or 10 years, it doesn't make any difference. It was certainly a better alternative in my opinion, to banning her for a week or a month so she can come back and start flaming and :gun3:-ing again. As John said a few posts ago, if that attitude hasn't changed since 2009, any length ban won't make a difference.

[CleverCowboy]

How do you know it was for 731 days? I only told CleverCowboy and MerciAlizée in a private group chat that it was a two year ban and that it "can of course be modified or reversed."

I've been told that there's no such thing as a Private Message on this forum and that people are always sharing this-and-that, and so-and-so told me this, so I guess if we're just going to bare it all out there I might as well explain to all why I took those actions.

Fall, obviously you thought we were talking behind your back... and we were. ;)

Scruffy, Bamagirl and myself continue to work on the Alizee interview project, compiling member questions that were posted, selecting the best, discussing different strategies to deliver them to Alizee, and now converting them to French. We do this by email. As the email exchange goes on, sometimes something that occurs on the forum gets commented on. The ban was one of them. The focus of the exchange was how to get the three moderators able to communicate with each other easily, and that is when the suggestion of getting your email address came up. It was no secret that I have an open Messenger chat with you and Merci going on in FB for quick activation of new members. Bamagirl needed to know the process in the event a new member is requesting activation and you and I are not available.

It was a neutral conversation with nothing personal about you in a negative sense, in case you took it that way.

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Fall, I cropped out my FB photo but left the content.

[Scruffydog777]

As I mentioned before, CleverCowboy and me talk on a regular basis. I'm posting a picture from my Google e-mail account that shows a small portion of the e-mails we've exchanged.

I'm not a mod, but I'm still a big part of what goes on in this forum. It was through my recommendations to Ben that CleverCowboy and Bamagirl were made mods. I didn't ask to be made one because I go off the deep end some times and I know that could happen again.

Before we added these 2 mods, spam was a regular problem because it was too much for just one mod to take care of. I'm sure we haven't seen the end of it, but there's been a big improvement, mostly thanks to CleverCowboy and Bamagirl, but I also played a small role in it.

A year ago, about 80% of the conversation that was taking place in here was taking place in chat where visitors can't see it. Through my efforts and someone else who I won’t name, after much argument, someone who was keeping those conversations anchored in chat left, which is too bad because it didn't need to be that way, but you can see what goes on today. Probably 90% of the conversation in the forum takes place in the forum where visitors can see it.

Not that long ago, things were so bad with the conversations taking in place in chat, the spam we were stuck with for days. Good conversations that were taking place in the open forum were being ended because they were off topic and the fact that we can't make changes to this forum that should be made, led me and CC to discuss starting a new forum including different language forums. We were willing to put up the startup and monthly costs. The only thing that kept us from doing it was the history of this forum. That's something we'd hate to lose. Though we still don't have the ability to make some changes we'd like to make, I think things are going pretty well and Bamagirl has brought the much-valued quality of a woman's perspective back to our forum and is being a big help in this interview project.

So, I think the 4 of us are working hard to make this a better place.

CC and Bamagirl, haven't been mods that long. They weren’t sure about this ban, so they confided in me.

One of the things I said in a letter to them both in which we were discussing three different things is that one of the two should post their views in the mod forum, which I don't have access to. Then the other should post their views. then maybe they can include Fall in the decision-making process.

"............ I suggest it should be taken down. Maybe you can include Fall in that decision-making process. I should get his e-mail address so you two can include him in forum decision-making issues.".

Notice I said "you two" and not "the three of us" in forum decision-making issues. Again, I told them they should use the mod forum, which I don't have access to. So, I'm certainly not trying to do things without you or go around you.

I do think this ban was excessive. I think it should start with a one-week ban, followed by a one-month ban, followed by a lifetime ban. Of course, the nature of the offence dictates which ban and the person being banned should be notified of how long a ban they are getting and any ban, longer than 30 days should require the approval of at least 2 mods.


I think you three need to come up with some guidelines for forum offences, warnings, bans, etc and I think you should review this ban, but it will be your three's decision as to what happens.

That conversation that was referenced in Fall's post I'm sure I took the wrong way at first and thought it was aimed at me, but now, I'm quite sure it was directed at the guy in the picture. Either way, she should not have used the word stupid.

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[Fall]

I was a bit surprised about the sharing of information for the same reason why you heavily edited out the emails and letters and perhaps also why John cropped out his picture: because some details and information should remain behind the scenes and private. ;)

Anyway, I am not surprised that you guys have conversations outside of AAm, that's all good. The interview question project I had considered dead, so I'm glad that it is being worked on. :nonstop: The odyssey with the "former member who shall not be named" is one I'm also very familiar with and you don't need to justify your participation in the forum, Scruffy. It would be great if more people did more than post and go.

Also, while Merci is often busy, he is still the top administrator outside of Ben. You mentioned the three of you but Merci should be included also. That comprised the majority of your replies, but neither of you gave any feedback to my reasoning. Scruffy said that the ban is excessive, but I don't see how many more chances to reform one's behavior we can give? Especially given the nature of the repeated offenses (which she kept and kept getting away with). There should definitely be a process for warnings, but some offenses are worse than others, and given the preferred "lax" approach to the moderation, the offender had grown noticeably more vicious and ambitious. At some point, the camel's back breaks, guys.

As I said, I will talk to the other mods and admin about the ban. At this point I think we should drop the public discussion on that subject and let the topic of the thread be addressed again.

[Scruffydog777]

I sent copies of the full e-mails that I posted in the forum to Fall. His pm box was apparently full, so I used the e-mail link.

In those e-mails, in addition to the ban, I was discussing two other subjects and there were things I thought best to keep private at this point.

As far as John cropping out his picture, we should never post another member's picture unless maybe it's the same one they use in their profile or one they may have posted before, but even in those cases, I see no need for it.


You're right there was a laxness to moderation and she grew more vicious and ambitious and that's part of the problem. Were any of her posts deleted? If not, we share responsibility for what she was getting away with. We didn't do our job and we should share some of the blame and that should be reflected in the disciplinary action we take.

[armars]

it seems from NRJ awards

http://oi65.tinypic.com/1jqhid.jpg

[Fall]

Throwback Thursday.
http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2637&stc=1&d=1556238984

[Scruffydog777]

This was posted by Alizee Updates....

http://www.instagram.com/p/BxAkelNnoTs/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet&fbclid=IwAR3tH4Pid8ypqSBfy9N24IPdlOcxu4rUZePbQwSVo mxZRDqXTnc6gROWqwE
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[kulli]

This was posted by Alizee Updates....

http://www.instagram.com/p/BxAkelNnoTs/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet&fbclid=IwAR3tH4Pid8ypqSBfy9N24IPdlOcxu4rUZePbQwSVo mxZRDqXTnc6gROWqwE
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Nice share! Alizee Updates has a well-chosen selection of photos. I don't think I've ever seen this before.

[Silencio]

https://live.staticflickr.com/5152/5820973510_7fdc49465a_b.jpg

[AlizéeSuperFanFIN]

I thought this is an interesting find. It's 15 seconds of Alizee singing back in 1989. It looks like performing was in her DNA. :)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/320x240q90/923/8nx3n8.jpg

The video is on my Google drive.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YJk2jUJ6iyRa65oUIH7-sgJ7LI4ev3-r

Great find, yes. :bow:

Who knows more about this picture?

https://i.postimg.cc/xThMF6dg/121422873-1323894244616227-8785532957132985643-n.jpg

Wouldn't immediately realize it's Alizée! :13::o

But it's a great picture! :yay:

[Bamagirl]

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This photo was taken by RMJ

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[Bamagirl]

The smiles in this photo show how well Alizée got along with the dancers.


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[Scruffydog777]

The smiles in this photo show how well Alizée got along with the dancers.


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That's something I've always liked too.

[Bamagirl]

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The life of a celebrity!

[AlizéeSuperFanFIN]

Because, why not: :clap: :13: :wub: :p

https://images.eil.com/large_image/ALIZEE_MES%2BCOURANTS%2BELECTRIQUES...-263345.jpg

[AlizéeSuperFanFIN]

Oh that beauty!:p:wub::bow::fear:

https://i.postimg.cc/nLPFQqCY/12345.jpg

[Bamagirl]

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[AlizéeSuperFanFIN]

Amazing! This is so awesome and gorgeous, both the original picture and now drawn!

https://i.postimg.cc/50z46thp/image.jpg :wub::p:p:wub:

[AlizéeSuperFanFIN]

So good looking, no matter the outfit! :P :yay::2_thumbs:
https://i.postimg.cc/tCKr1spZ/image.jpg

[AlizéeSuperFanFIN]

> In a word, this is a great and amazing picture!:p:bow:

https://i.postimg.cc/52JY0nwD/1054974434-small.jpg

Well, all the pictures are!;)

[AlizéeSuperFanFIN]

Like a living sculpture::p:bow:

https://i.postimg.cc/qMV43d0q/E7VM6YT.jpg ;):wub::yahoo:

[Scruffydog777]

Like a living sculpture::p:bow:

https://i.postimg.cc/qMV43d0q/E7VM6YT.jpg ;):wub::yahoo:

Very nice!

[Bamagirl]

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[AlizéeSuperFanFIN]

:bow:This is a great picture in many ways!:p:wub::clap::dance:

Sexy, as always with Alizée.:):bye:

https://i.postimg.cc/Pd4fP56R/alitat.jpg

Also in this picture, Alizée’s numerous tattoos don’t bother me at all - in fact, they’re pretty pretty in the picture :bow::o [sometimes they might bother you].

[Bamagirl]

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From one of her dj gigs I'm sure but I don't recognize it. Great picture though!

[AlizéeSuperFanFIN]

Strong proof again that the blonde really fits Alizée too!:dance::p:wub::bow:

https://postimg.cc/YL4kDr3x

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Strong proof again that the blonde really fits Alizée too!:dance::p:wub::bow:

https://i.postimg.cc/C5711dn9/7a47ede221f5f45a51b4371531ad2700.jpg:)

[Scruffydog777]

Strong proof again that the blonde really fits Alizée too!:dance::p:wub::bow:

https://postimg.cc/YL4kDr3x

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Strong proof again that the blonde really fits Alizée too!:dance::p:wub::bow:

https://i.postimg.cc/C5711dn9/7a47ede221f5f45a51b4371531ad2700.jpg:)

Some people feel it was going blonde that led to the failure of Blonde, but you can see, she was a very beautiful blonde. The reasons laid elsewhere.

[AlizéeSuperFanFIN]

Some people feel it was going blonde that led to the failure of Blonde, but you can see, she was a very beautiful blonde. The reasons laid elsewhere.
Yes... :)Although sometimes in some [very rarely] pictures, in the era of blonde hair, for some reason the hair isn’t quite as stunning :o- as in that picture! :agree::dance:

However, :13: Alizée’s hair in that picture is so gorgeously stunning and sexy that just based on a picture like that I’d almost ready to say, :yay: “she could almost always have blonde hair,” :yay: :w::13: even though I love dark hair so much!:p:sstruck::fear::wub::scrunch:

[AlizéeSuperFanFIN]

GREAT when summer COMES SOON!!!! :yay:

https://i.postimg.cc/cLTGh6nD/be4acd99de998fc60c49cb8d4c6b8c02.jpg

Great when summer comes soon!!!!:scrunch:

[Bamagirl]

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That's an interesting picture. I've always felt she is a woman who wears her heart on her sleeve. Her emotions show through, even when she's performing. I think this picture is from En Concert because of the tip of the microphone you can see at the bottom. It's silver colored. I didn't realize until tonight she used more than one type of microphone because I was so focused on her. She wore a black one during J'en ai marre. Were there more? But she looks sad and I feel she was sad. What type of song would have elicited this type of reaction?

[Bamagirl]

That's an interesting picture. I've always felt she is a woman who wears her heart on her sleeve. Her emotions show through, even when she's performing. I think this picture is from En Concert because of the tip of the microphone you can see at the bottom. It's silver colored. I didn't realize until tonight she used more than one type of microphone because I was so focused on her. She wore a black one during J'en ai marre. Were there more? But she looks sad and I feel she was sad. What type of song would have elicited this type of reaction?

There are only 2 reasons I think she would look sad. There was the song "Lou ou Toi," which was supposed to be a real life situation where she was torn between two courters, then there was the En Concert show in Le Havre, that was cut short when she became ill. But I doubt if this picture is from Le Havre.

[Mr Coucou]

That's an interesting picture. I've always felt she is a woman who wears her heart on her sleeve. Her emotions show through, even when she's performing. I think this picture is from En Concert because of the tip of the microphone you can see at the bottom. It's silver colored. I didn't realize until tonight she used more than one type of microphone because I was so focused on her. She wore a black one during J'en ai marre. Were there more? But she looks sad and I feel she was sad. What type of song would have elicited this type of reaction?

Yes, its En Concert. I recognize the photo; its right before she steps away from the microphone in the middle of one of the songs. I'll have to see if I can figure out which song it is.

[Scruffydog777]

Yes, its En Concert. I recognize the photo; its right before she steps away from the microphone in the middle of one of the songs. I'll have to see if I can figure out which song it is.

It doesn't appear to be Lou ou toi, at least not from the En Concert dvd.

[Mr Coucou]

It doesn't appear to be Lou ou toi.

Found it!

Its Parler Tout Bas, at about the 0:57 timestamp.

https://youtu.be/XwrCtRRm0Bw?t=57

[Scruffydog777]

Found it!

Its Parler Tout Bas, at about the 0:57 timestamp.

https://youtu.be/XwrCtRRm0Bw?t=57

Great work!

Now here are the lines leading up to that moment starting at about :36.

"A quoi bon
Les vies chiffons
Les mots d'amour
Qui sont trop courts
Moi, j'rêve en grand
Comme l'éléphant
Je rêve immense
Ventre rond
Les yeux profonds
Mon ours dit «à quoi bon»?
Son amitié
C'est dur à dire
Dure toute la vie"

Which Google translates to;

"What good
Are chiffon lives
Words of love
They're too short
Me, I dream big
Like elephants
I dream immensely
A round belly
Deep eyes
My bear says "why bother?"
His friendship
Hard as it is to say
Lasts a lifetime"

Probably not a very good translation when it's MF who wrote the lyrics but with this, does it look like something that would make her sad? We have to consider too that Mylene got the ideas for "some" of the songs she wrote from things Alizée told her. Could that be the case here of maybe it was just the angle of the shot that made her look sad?

[Bamagirl]

Great work!

Now here are the lines leading up to that moment starting at about :36.

"A quoi bon
Les vies chiffons
Les mots d'amour
Qui sont trop courts
Moi, j'rêve en grand
Comme l'éléphant
Je rêve immense
Ventre rond
Les yeux profonds
Mon ours dit «à quoi bon»?
Son amitié
C'est dur à dire
Dure toute la vie"

Which Google translates to;

"What good
Are chiffon lives
Words of love
They're too short
Me, I dream big
Like elephants
I dream immensely
A round belly
Deep eyes
My bear says "why bother?"
His friendship
Hard as it is to say
Lasts a lifetime"

Probably not a very good translation when it's MF who wrote the lyrics but with this, does it look like something that would make her sad? We have to consider too that Mylene got the ideas for "some" of the songs she wrote from things Alizée told her. Could that be the case here of maybe it was just the angle of the shot that made her look sad?

Back in 2006, garçoncanadien who was a med student from Canada, posted this "analysis" of the song:

"Alizée asks herself 'To what good…' secretive love, love, Bohemian way of life. She wants grandeur, and that her greatest dreams come true. Mylène therefore compares this grandeur to that of an elephant.

“Round stomach”, one of Alizée’s wishes is to give life. “Deep eyes”, metaphor of uncertainty, there is no depth in her eyes therefore no future, nor projects to realize, all the things that make adolescence one of the worst times to get through. Even Alizée’s bear puts in a suggestion, to not get involved in adult life, as for her she has a hard time admitting it, but this bear is faithful for life in friendship."

Here is a link to the post with the interpretation by garçoncanadien:
http://alizeeamerica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1677

[Scruffydog777]

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So it definitely has a sad tone to it. Again I'd like to know if Mylene got the idea for this song from things Alizée told her?

Here's another time when I thought she looked sad. It was after she had surprised Julia on Stars a Domicile and she was leaving. I think seeing all those kids partying and having a good time made her miss her friends.

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[AlizéeSuperFanFIN]

:yay: Super sexy :wub: black and white photos now!:o:cool:;)

https://i.postimg.cc/G2DxvSBR/198493422c6603cc9d03e5de27c2e904.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/ZnhFHF3d/alizee-0001.jpg

:p

[AlizéeSuperFanFIN]

:)(: Now the first picture only in April! But finally and deservedly!:cool::p

https://i.postimg.cc/TdNQLcQC/image.jpg :wub:

20 months! :D:bye::)

[Alex Rien]

https://sun9-33.userapi.com/s/v1/ig2/5_5RZy_NlKC4vxQKdHCTBctoXQey2tMfs-jN8SAKd1hlIfmo-Hj-hoGC_bTsc1JsVL25wXOvumDqDKwJYJ4to4Q-.jpg?size=960x960&quality=96&type=album

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[Mr Coucou]

https://i.ibb.co/zR7qD2P/004be3f547c64d8b52a7433a4862020d.jpg

[Mr Coucou]

https://i.ibb.co/PWvRhPK/1183749c6f1c9bbbe62b24f5d9512787.jpg

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https://i.ibb.co/2K14vYy/db713314fca990613dd5b3a28cf1d5e5.jpg

[Bamagirl]

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[Bamagirl]

The left picture is of Annily. The right one is of Maggy.



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[Mr Coucou]

https://i.ibb.co/jLX1W9L/R-cc-pic-from-internet-r.jpg

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[Marshal Davout]

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I searched for Barefoot Alizee and got this !
( No I do not have a Foot fetish ! Ha ! )

It looks like she just got out of the Bath for J'en Ai Marre ! HA !

[Marshal Davout]

Alizee at the Olympia Theatre and Her Stuffed Animals that the Fans who Loved Her Gifted Her !
One Fan threw her a Teddy Bear on stage; but she Threw it back to them, as she didn't want things thrown at the Stage !
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[Marshal Davout]

Another Alizee with Bare Feet; I stumbled across ( accidentally ) Ha !

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[Marshal Davout]

I stumbled across these on the net and hadn't seen some of them before ? This is a new kinda place



Luckily you don't have to log in ! ( I Like ! ) Flickr.com

Alnor | Flickr /photos/Alnor

Alizee by Jo Jacotey | Flickr photos/alizeespain/albums

Alizee Spain's albums | Flickr ( This has lots of photos of her I never saw before in the Albums !

Being american, I thought Jo Jacotey was her mother; but then I read somewhere that Jo was her Father and is a good photographer !