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BrianO1 08-01-2011 08:13 AM

possible donation opportunity?
 
Donators thus far:

Un-rêve
Junkmale
Cruzier
ALS
LEFTY
JEP
SCRUFFY
BRIAN
TIWAZ
REV
BEN
TOC DE MAC
JAKE
Aaronius31
SlipshodDread

Thank you all so much!

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There have been a few times that Scruffy and other have tried to come up with a way we can raise some money in Lili's name.

With the current auction Alizée is doing, now may be a good time to try again! :D


Scruff and I were talking about it, and it seems the problems with the past ideas for raising money in Lili's name, were mainly us not knowing how Alizée would feel about it. This time, we KNOW Lili wants to raise money for the Jean Baptiste group, and we KNOW she is including her fans in raising that money, by having that facebook auction.

Now the only problem with the auction, is that only ONE person can give money. Who ever bids the most, gets the toy. So while many fans want to give money, in the end, only ONE will.


We were thinking this would be a way for us to raise some extra money, to give to the group, ON TOP of what Lili makes.


Scruff and I thought this would be a good way to do a few things:

1. thank Lili again for the autograph session she did for this forum
2. Help Lili do something great, and raise some money for a good cause
3. Remind Lili that she has some amazing fans here in the U.S.:thumb:


So what do you guys think? If you guys like the idea, we can try to contact the Jean Baptiste group through their facebook page. But we didnt want to start setting stuff up until we got some input from everyone else. :)


What do you guys think about this?

SlipshodDread 08-01-2011 08:20 AM

you could make a "pot" that people could donate to, then after a week or whatever donate the entire pot to the charity, if that makes sense.

I would chip into it if I do not happen to win the toy.

However you would need to get someone who actually speaks to Alizée directly in order to do some of what you have proposed, and I dont think she replies to fans on her page.

BlackAnthem 08-01-2011 09:02 AM

Do we even have to do it in her name?? Couldn't we say "from the members of the Alizée America Community"? I mean her name is in it, so technically...you know? And I wouldn't think you would need to contact Jean Baptiste. I think we could just send them a donation. Not sure...but just my thoughts!

Anyway it's an amazing idea and I would love to donate whatever I'm able to! Maybe have the "pot" for more than a week.

SlipshodDread 08-01-2011 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackAnthem (Post 206676)
Do we even have to do it in her name?? Couldn't we say "from the members of the Alizée America Community"? I mean her name is in it, so technically...you know? And I wouldn't think you would need to contact Jean Baptiste. I think we could just send them a donation. Not sure...but just my thoughts!

Anyway it's an amazing idea and I would love to donate whatever I'm able to! Maybe have the "pot" for more than a week.


Depends, if you want to include a note to Alizée then you kind of have to direct it to her anyway.

Also the week thing was just a suggestion, it merely depends on how much and how many people want/are going to donate

BlackAnthem 08-01-2011 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlipshodDread (Post 206677)
Depends, if you want to include a note to Alizée then you kind of have to direct it to her anyway.

Also the week thing was just a suggestion, it merely depends on how much and how many people want/are going to donate

Good point. Haha! Let's see how much support we get.

Junkmale 08-01-2011 10:49 AM

Why not just ask her what her favourite Charity is?
Most 'celebrities' support Charities in some form or another?
Would it not be simpler to find out and then make a regular donation to a Charity of her choice?

User22 08-01-2011 11:23 AM

Man this is a great idea guys! My 2 cents is that if we raise enough money to crest what the auction on Alizee's ebay is at, then we can simply buy the toy and everything would be easier. But then again...the toy is at €300 and that's a ton of money to raise since its really like $400.

SlipshodDread 08-01-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaronius31 (Post 206681)
Man this is a great idea guys! My 2 cents is that if we raise enough money to crest what the auction on Alizee's ebay is at, then we can simply buy the toy and everything would be easier. But then again...the toy is at €300 and that's a ton of money to raise since its really like $400.


More like $450+

I've been bidding on it during the day and got it back up to 301 euros (i'm winning atm).

Also it would have to be raised within the next 4 days in order for it to be placed on the item. It would be easier to just make a donation once everyone who wants to donate has chipped in.

User22 08-01-2011 01:11 PM

true true slipshod

ALS 08-01-2011 03:22 PM

I'm in for 100€, between Scruffy and me we are 1/3 of the way towards the 1,000€. If another twenty members were to cough up $50 each we have more than the original 1,000€ goal.

JEP 08-01-2011 04:51 PM

Count Me In For 100 Euros.

User22 08-01-2011 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALS (Post 206688)
I'm in for 100€, between Scruffy and me we are 1/3 of the way towards the 1,000€. If another twenty members were to cough up $50 each we have more than the original 1,000€ goal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEP (Post 206690)
Count Me In For 100 Euros.

If we are able to raise €1000 by friday, then the forum can make an ebay account and just buy the toy...

And if we do that...then each of us can have the toy for about 3 days then ship it off to the next person on the list of donators :D

BrianO1 08-01-2011 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackAnthem
Do we even have to do it in her name?? Couldn't we say "from the members of the Alizée America Community"

Yes of course we can! That was part of the plan, I should have worded it better :p


Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Anthem...again!
And I wouldn't think you would need to contact Jean Baptiste. I think we could just send them a donation.

Scruff and I have talked about this as well. We know the group has a facebook page, and they very well could have donation information on their page! We first wanted to see if anyone was even interested in doing this, if so, we would then have someone who speaks French/find a way to translate the facebook page, and figure out how to donate from there :D


Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkmale
Why not just ask her what her favourite Charity is?

I wish it were as easy done as it is said my friend! Contacting her and finding that info out of course would be the best case scenario, and we could always try asking on her facebook. You never know!




Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron
My 2 cents is that if we raise enough money to crest what the auction on Alizee's ebay is at, then we can simply buy the toy

Well as I explained above, we DO NOT want to buy the toy, because then Lili will only raise the money from the toy, and thats all. Where as if we donate separately AND she sells the toy to someone else, she raises twice as much money. :D

User22 08-01-2011 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianO1 (Post 206692)
Well as I explained above, we DO NOT want to buy the toy, because then Lili will only raise the money from the toy, and thats all. Where as if we donate separately AND she sells the toy to someone else, she raises twice as much money. :D

Wow...why did I not get that before :D Awesome plan Brian!!!

BrianO1 08-01-2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaronius31 (Post 206693)
Wow...why did I not get that before

DO you really want me to answer that question? :p :p :p


Thank you to those who are already on bored! And thank you all for the ideas, please, keep them coming! We want to know what you guys thinks!

User22 08-01-2011 06:08 PM

Besides just posting on the Jean Baptiste facebook page, we can always call this number which is the number provided to make a reservation for the buffet and ask how we can make the donation...

zeroSIX oneZERO sevenONE oneSIX sevenZERO

source

And we would obviously need someone to call that can speak french.....BigDan? :D

lefty12357 08-01-2011 06:39 PM

Count me in for 100€. I like this idea because Alizée is publicly promoting this particular charity and is actively trying to raise money for it. It's a nice way to acknowledge her as well as do a good deed for someone in need. And I like the idea of this site showing its support for her and her cause.

User22 08-01-2011 07:20 PM

So is this the total amount raised so far? I just want to get a count so we can track the progress. Thanks to everyone who has donated by the way!

€100 --- ALS
€100 --- LEFTY
€100 --- JEP
€250 --- SCRUFFY

€550 --- TOTAL

JEP 08-01-2011 07:43 PM

Scruffy's pledged 250 Euros.

User22 08-01-2011 07:58 PM

Thanks JEP!

Scruffydog777 08-01-2011 08:16 PM

Does anyone know how long this auction is supposed to run?

User22 08-01-2011 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777 (Post 206705)
Does anyone know how long this auction is supposed to run?

Time left: 4d 11h (August 6, 2011 1:24:10 p.m. Paris)

Tiwaz 08-01-2011 08:39 PM

100€ from me if anyone can thingmie an account I can send it to before Thursday 16.00 CET. After that I'll be off the grid for 2 weeks.

User22 08-01-2011 08:41 PM

I'll help you out Tiwaz. I'll PM you.

BlackAnthem 08-01-2011 09:29 PM

I'd like to try to donate. I'm a poor college kid so, you know...not much money. Could I get details on how to do so?

Rev 08-01-2011 10:04 PM

I'll donate 50 euros. :)

Scruffydog777 08-01-2011 10:23 PM

I'm pretty familiar with most of the members here. If for what ever reason, you can't send the money right away, if you pledge the money, I will trust you and put up the money.

That is very nobel of Tiwaz, as I'm sure it will be of others. I guarantee you this will happen and when it does, we will let it be known, that we have devoted members from all over the world.

User22 08-01-2011 11:45 PM

Now my question is, who is going to collect and send the money? I nominate Scruffy since he has been very trustworthy with money in previous events. I second my motion :D. Scruffy, do you have a paypal people can send money to you through? Or possibly they can send to the forum's paypal if you or Ben have access.

Edit:

And thanks for the pledge REV!!!

Scruffydog777 08-02-2011 05:00 AM

I'm wondering if we have to get Ben's approval for this. Using the forum's name for such a cause. I know there were issues with the proposed gift to the school where Alizee learned to dance that fizzled out, but I believe that wasn't due to what we were doing as opposed to the way it was done. So I think he'll be okay for this. I don't want to ask him for a donation, because he has done so much for this forum. I'm sure contributing most of the cost of running it himself over the years.

If people want me to be in charge of collecting the money that is fine with me or if you want to nominate some one else that too is okay. I know there are a bunch of people in here I trust. If I get chosen, or even if don't, I will post my paypal info a little later on, just to speed things up.

I will also talk to Bigdan again. If he can't not post a message him self, maybe he can help us put one together. The question being, how do we post a message and make sure it gets noticed? Then we need ideas to of what to say in the message and how to say it.

I aks people to post there ideas and I will post my idea later on too.

Merci Alizée 08-02-2011 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777 (Post 206726)
I'm wondering if we have to get Ben's approval for this. Using the forum's name for such a cause. I know there were issues with the proposed gift to the school where Alizee learned to dance that fizzled out, but I believe that wasn't due to what we were doing as opposed to the way it was done. So I think he'll be okay for this. I don't want to ask him for a donation, because he has done so much for this forum. I'm sure contributing most of the cost of running it himself over the years.

If people want me to be in charge of collecting the money that is fine with me or if you want to nominate some one else that too is okay. I know there are a bunch of people in here I trust. If I get chosen, or even if don't, I will post my paypal info a little later on, just to speed things up.

I will also talk to Bigdan again. If he can't not post a message him self, maybe he can help us put one together. The question being, how do we post a message and make sure it gets noticed? Then we need ideas to of what to say in the message and how to say it.

I ask people to post there ideas and I will post my idea later on too.

I think it's better to use forum if you guys are willing to do so. This is because we are directly related to forum and not to members. Some members might know other members personally, but not everyone does.

Ask Ben if he wants to involve forum in this or not. Once he agrees then whoever have pledged to donate can directly donate it to AAm.

After that two things can be done. Create an ebay account using e-mail address of site and bid there. If the forum is highest bidder then it's fine. Otherwise in case someone outbids the forum, then probably we can contact her for a separate donation without the toy.

Scruffydog777 08-02-2011 08:28 AM

As Brian01 had mentioned earlier, we dont want to bid on the toy. We just want to make a donation. This way they'll be able to raise more money by still having the toy to auction off to someone else.

ALS 08-02-2011 08:55 AM

I'd like to do the same way we did it for the signed CD's, through the boards donation page. That way any thing extra collected over the original 1,000€ can help Ben out a little with the cost of running the board.

Scruffydog777 08-02-2011 09:36 AM

I didn't want to contact Ben mainly because I didn't want him to think I was hitting him up for a donation. After all he's done for this forum, paying far more than his fair share for so long, he shouldn't be donating.

But another member pm'd me saying I should contact him to get his approval, especially where we'd be using the forum's name. There may be some restrictions on how exactly we do this, because we are supposed to be just a forum.

So I will post whenever I get an answer from him.

Ben 08-02-2011 12:27 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but can someone please explain this to me? Who is Jean-Baptiste? I assume it's some sort of charity? How would we send the money? I see there's an eBay auction, but it ends in 3 days and there are posts about NOT bidding on it. So what exactly is going on?

I realize this might have been explained elsewhere, but I think it's important to be as clear as possible when asking for money. If this is some sort of charitable donation in Alizee and AAm's name, then you can count me in for support and a donation. :)

Azhiri 08-02-2011 01:19 PM

I'd love to donate money, but I'm a minor and have no income of my own. :p

Also I'm not quite clear on what exactly this is either.

Scruffydog777 08-02-2011 01:30 PM

Well unfortunately most of the sites that I've tried to find info about are in French and you always lose something with tranlsators like bing or google but from what I've read so far, Jean-Baptiste is a young boy, I believe from Ajaccio who has a disease. From what I've read, they don't have a name for this disease yet. He's gone on numerous trips to the hospital and now Alizee has become involved in raising money for this cause. She put up a toy to auction off on her Facebook page. But I gather things got out of hand and e bay page was created to auction of this toy.

Me and Brian01 came up with the idea, to not bid on the toy, but to make a donation through Alizee. That way the toy will still be free to raise money by it's sale.

Our target was 1,000 euros which I believe we are now up to 700.

One of the reasons we want to do this is a way of thanking her for what she did for us at the autograph session last year. Something I'd like to see expressed in a message we send to her concerning this donation.

The big problem being how do we get the donation to her? We'll also need someone to translate any message we come up with. We have about 3 more days before this auction is up.

Here is some info on Jean-Baptiste. It speaks of a drawing which has nothing to do with the auction of this toy by Alizee.

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/B...se-mobilise%2F

Ajaccio: "A smile for Jean-Baptiste" takes action
A · 06-2011 · solidarity

« Friendship, it is used to it "says Marie - Line Leca when it evokes in his company tested through several weeks already, a family honourably known to Ajaccio. Marie-Line Leca, is the President of the association "A smile for Jean-Baptiste" scope on the baptismal font with three other close friends of the family, in the wake of the disease which has decided to hit one of his own. "Today we have over 80 volunteers members" evidence, therefore, that the message is well spent.
« But initially the family did not want to call with others, not through pride but rather because our approach could have been, it equated to begging the people whom it is absolutely not .»
Today, despite the initial reluctance of Toinou Renucci and his wife, "A smile for Jean-Baptiste" works to better the daily of Jean-Baptiste, their 5-year boy affected by a serious illness.
In any case, a vast outpouring of solidarity formed Jean-Baptiste and his family, their friends have seen " too clueless about the disease that affects their small man".» .
Ajaccio, Marie-Line Leca and his friends has received the support of Pierre-Louis Demedardi, Director of the Park of activities of the Gravona without which the loto - August 6 from 18: 30 with €6,000 prize-, perhaps, could never take place.
Support, also, on the part of Pierre Farel who offered a nanoimprint association. Of Sas Pietri-Peugeot who developed the provision of the association a car to cost price. Natacha Albertini who wants to put his talent of photographer at the service of the association, meals and raffles, collecting necessary funds to allow parents of Jean-Baptiste support in the (heavy) care that is provided and to bear the costs of countless trips that he must do this.

Alyzée sponsor
And the great solidarity chain continues to expand.
Association "A smile for Jean-Baptiste" is now on Facebook and more than 2,500 friends, to his cause, adhered to at the outset, its noble objective: "give hand" Toinou Renucci and his small family without intention that that support a neighbour or a friend through a difficult test, as we know so well to do in Corsica.
And Alyzée, it is unnecessary to present, agreed to be the sponsor of the association presides with a beautiful Marie-Line Leca dynamism.
Today Jean-Baptiste, his twin brother, his sister, his dad and his MOM know that they are more alone.
Between Ajaccio, Corsica, and La Timone they are hundreds, compatriots to enhance them, encourage them and support them with the discretion that is known to display here.
"Forti saremu, if uniti simu" is written in golden letters in the history of Corsica. Here is another struggle to lead, but it requires the same ingredients of union, support and courage.
"A smile for Jean-Baptiste" no shortage.
Yes, all together we will win the fight against the disease!
Charles MONTI
A Peugeot 107 3 doors 4 Ch with a value of €9700 Tttc to win
"A smile for Jean-Baptiste" association organizes a raffle between 1 July and 31 August. The benefit of the raffle will go of course to the association. Tickets (€10) are already on sale
The draw will take place at the "Hussar caterer" followed by a buffet and an evening year 80
Points of sale are visible on the Facebook of the association "A smile for Jean-Baptiste" account.
The draw will take place on September 2.
Reservations at the 06 10 71 16 70 for the buffet.

A link to a site with several pictures of Alizee with this young boy.

Ben 08-02-2011 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777 (Post 206738)
but to make a donation through Alizee.

It might be a little imposition to make a donation through her, but if we can contact the organization directly and make a donation in her name, it sounds like a good cause. I'd really check with them first, though. Maybe a native speaker can help? If it doesn't work out, I've always felt a donation like this to Les Restos du Coeur would be a good way to say thanks.

Scruffydog777 08-02-2011 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azhiri (Post 206736)
I'd love to donate money, but I'm a minor and have no income of my own. :p

Also I'm not quite clear on what exactly this is either.

We realize there are several members in the same boat as you and can not donate, but we still want and appreciate your input.

Edit:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben (Post 206739)
It might be a little imposition to make a donation through her, but if we can contact the organization directly and make a donation in her name, it sounds like a good cause. Maybe a native speaker can help? If it doesn't work out, I've always felt a donation like this to Les Restos du Coeur would be a good way to say thanks.

I've been wanting to do something like this for a while, but to just make a donation out of the blue to some cause of hers I think would seem a little strange. The time to have done something to thank her for the autograph session should have been right afterwards, but we squandered that opportunity.

I felt we had to wait for some occassion to come up for us to put together an effort like this. She made this posting just recently and I feel it would be the perfect opportunity to do it now, to this cause.

If we did make a donation to the organization in Alizee's name, would Alizee know about it?

Ben 08-02-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777 (Post 206740)
If we did make a donation to the organization in Alizee's name, would Alizee know about it?

We could ask them to tell her. There's no guarantee, but that's part of doing a good deed. Going directly to Alizee ourselves might come across a bit like demanding attention.

I agree that it would be good to do this now, but there's no time limit on charity. We should check with the organization, and only donate where wanted. I'm sure Alizee will appreciate any effort in her name.

BrianO1 08-02-2011 02:04 PM

Well the plan was not to get the money to Alizée herself, but to contact the group, and ask for donation information. :)

We would mention to the group who we were, what website we were from of course. If they wanted to tell Lili about it, then cool!


But thats what I was saying before, we need a native speaker to check out the groups facebook page, since they may have donation information right on their page, making this a whole lot easier on all of us :D



And thank you all who are willing to donate! I agree, that Scruffy should be the "treasurer" for this plan. If he is ok with it ofc.


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