FIFA 2010 South Africa World Cup Thread

[Ali]

Originally Posted by HelixSix

It would have been tied 2-2 with England having momentum if they got credit for the goal. You can't say it would have still ended up 4-2 because momentum shifts drastically change the outcome of games. Plus a team plays totally different when the score is tied vs playing from behind, coupled with the other team playing with a lead.

England probably would have lost anyway because they are an inferior team but many times the lesser team wins.

Srbski is right. Germany would have pushed up more if the score was 2-2. In the last 10 minutes Germany was just passing the ball back, being the classy and nice people the Germans are they didn't want to "run up the score" and humiliate England even more. To use a World War II analogy, if there were 10 German bombers, England's Royal Air Force would have shot down only one of them. This England team is pretty pathetic, I can't believe they were considered World Cup contenders, the English media just hypes them up (which I brought into), they are just like the French, great individual talent but useless when it comes to the national team, with the exception when Zidane was playing for France. England's going to get even worse because their stars are aging compare to this German team which is the second youngest in the World Cup and they are playing like World Cup contenders.

[HelixSix]

Originally Posted by Ali

Srbski is right. Germany would have pushed up more if the score was 2-2. In the last 10 minutes Germany was just passing the ball back, being the classy and nice people the Germans are they didn't want to "run up the score" and humiliate England even more. To use a World War II analogy, if there were 10 German bombers, England's Royal Air Force would have shot down only one of them. This England team is pretty pathetic, I can't believe they were considered World Cup contenders, the English media just hypes them up (which I brought into), they are just like the French, great individual talent but useless when it comes to the national team, with the exception when Zidane was playing for France. England's going to get even worse because their stars are aging compare to this German team which is the second youngest in the World Cup and they are playing like World Cup contenders.

You can't deny how powerful goals are and you also can't say Germany would push up more if the score was 2-2. You aren't on the staff, you aren't a player, you cannot say whether they would or not. You guys are pretty arrogant acting like you know what the teams would do and how the results would be. "England's going to get even worse"...I guess that statement is 100% right if you said it. I could argue that they will get better because they will always have talent and the younger guys could play better as a team than the current squad. I'm sure as heck not gonna act like what I say is fact though.

If the other team is all of a sudden surging with momentum it's often a bad idea to push up even more when your defense is struggling and back on their heels. We've seen many times how momentum changes games and it wasn't out of the question for England to go on to win.

The last 10 minutes they were just playing ball control against a tired and deflated team. They were ahead by 3 goals, what do you expect? It was only a representation of them already having the game put away. It's much different than a tie game or being up by only 1 goal.

[Ali]

Originally Posted by HelixSix

You can't deny how powerful goals are and you also can't say Germany would push up more if the score was 2-2. You aren't on the staff, you aren't a player, you cannot say whether they would or not. You guys are pretty arrogant acting like you know what the teams would do and how the results would be. "England's going to get even worse"...I guess that statement is 100% right if you said it. I could argue that they will get better because they will always have talent and the younger guys could play better as a team than the current squad. I'm sure as heck not gonna act like what I say is fact though.

If the other team is all of a sudden surging with momentum it's often a bad idea to push up even more when your defense is struggling and back on their heels. We've seen many times how momentum changes games and it wasn't out of the question for England to go on to win.

The last 10 minutes they were just playing ball control against a tired and deflated team. They were ahead by 3 goals, what do you expect? It was only a representation of them already having the game put away. It's much different than a tie game or being up by only 1 goal.

The reason I say they are going to get worse is because guys like Lampard and Terry will be like 34 and 33, Gerrard I think will be 32, in Euro 2012. I don't think England will replace them, as a result, I don't think they will replace them with any new talent. If you look at the big picture the England doesn't have that many young talent compared to the rest of the other powerhouses with the exception of Rooney. I am willing to bet they will not win any major tournament in the foreseeable future. This was the "golden generation" and they failed to come up with any trophies. France had their Golden Generation 98-00 and maybe you could extend that to '06 where many of the players who played in '98 and '00 played in '06. In that span of time they won a World Cup, Euro 2000, 2 Confederations Cup and World Cup Semifinal. Brazil also had a "Golden Generation" from 94-02, in that span they made it to 3 World Cup finals and won 2 of them. The farthest England's Golden Generation gotten to is the Quarterfinals. It's like Arsene Wenger said, it's now or never for England (referring to this World Cup). And the reason me and Srbski say that Germany will push up is because that's exactly what they did against Ghana, they needed to win that game and they pushed and pushed when it was tied and scored 1-0. Germany lost one game in the group stage and they were desperate for that win. I could give England 2 more goals and Germany would still beat them 4-3. This team is not the team just to sit back, they are an attacking team, that's they scored like 9 goals so far, the second highest of any team in the tournament so far. Germany = Pure Ownage.