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Alizée as a fisher of men?
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<hr size="5" width="90%" color="black"> In my essay Oi vey! Few things are more Jewish than US Christmas songs?, I reported that 12 out of the 25 most popular [US Christmas] songs were written or co-written by "verified" Jewish composersWell, now I read here that Tahiti Boy (David Sztanke - more properly called Pannonia Boy, LOL?) is aka The Ashkenasi Yoda in some circles. I interpret this to mean that while David writes US-style Christmas songs, long enough ago back in Hungary his family used two sets of plates! Last edited by FanDeAliFee; 03-16-2011 at 07:39 AM.. Reason: mend minor typos |
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Thanks to DALS and the extraordinary effort she put into it, and (it's worth mentioning) to the many performances and appearances throughout the year, now at the beginning of 2014 she is probably in the best place career-wise since she left MF/LB. I'm not gonna talk about whether she was better off with them or not, don't worry. But with the right choices, and using today's technological advantages (vs 10 years ago) she could go even further. All of that is basic no-brainer stuff, but what do you guys think will happen in 2014? |
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The thing that impressed me the most about Alizée's participation in DALS is that I don't think I have ever seen her work so hard before. I've always said that I thought she was not that "industrious", but DALS was another story. I guess it's obvious that her first love really is dance, and she will put every ounce of effort she has into it. We also saw her competitive side really shine through. I can't make any predictions for 2014, but my wish would be that she put forth the same effort on her singing career and really work on her live vocal performances. It would be nice to see her find a vocal coach that would do for her singing what Grégoire helped her do with her dancing.
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I think Lefty is right about her, at times, not being that industrious. She needs someone or something to drive her. In the case of DALS, I think what drove her was not only her love for dance but it was because she wanted that trophy for Annily.
As far as the future, quite frankly I'm not optimistic. They are supposed to be coming out with a new album soon to captialize on this new success. If they couldn't put together a good one in over a year, what makes them think they can put togehter one in a few months? Sony provided her with 100 songs and they couldn't find one hit in that group? Who ever chose those songs, though some were "good", should be fired (Hang her .............oops!............maybe it was a him from the highest yardarm!). Another big mistake Sony made was not including any dancing in her video unless you want to count that brief octopus dance or what ever it was as a dance. Do you think now they might realize her incredible dancing abilities? As Lefty said, she should have been taking vocal lessons over the years. I have no doubt that she still has an incredibly beautiful voice. She's obviously a great dancer and she's still incredibly beautiful. But what I doubt very strongly is she'll be able to find someone such as a manager, who can bring out all those best features in an album and any related videos. I thought she would have that with Sony and I was very optimistic about 5, but I was so incredibly disappointed with the mistakes they made. Maybe she should become a professional dancer? I'm sure she'd do well or maybe she should branch out into other areas such as being a judge on DALS? I'm not sure what Psych did for her financialy, but since then, I'm sure all she's done is lose money. I'm sure her recent success, especialy with the DALS tour will provide her the financial security that will set her for life. She is on top now. I think now might be the time for her to open up a dance school or go into partnership with dancerman 1. If this new album to come out doesn't sell, call it a career, singing wise. Leave while you are on top. There is of course one wild card in this whole equation and that is the two songs written for her by JJG. I have a tremendous amount of respect for him for what he's achieved and also for what he's done for the Les Enfoires show. I really enjoy this show and that includes many of the songs that Alizee has not participated in and I'm sure a lot of that enjoyment is due to his guidance. So could those two songs have turned 5 into a success and now could they have an influence on this next album if they are included? I don't know. Alizee walked away from 2 incredibly talented artists before and what did it get her? Will she walk away from JJG? Last edited by Scruffydog777; 01-01-2014 at 11:33 AM.. |
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She doesn't have too many options.
I don't think she could become a professional dancer. Age isn't on her side for the physical demands. She seems to be a bit injury prone as well. I have been watching her DALS dances a lot over the last few days making a compilation of the clips, and while she does a great job with the routines, it's pretty obvious that she's not quite at the level of the pros from the show. Much of the time Gregoire was behind her watching and coordinating himself with her, and giving her cues occasionally. The pros moves were all crisp and precise all of the time. Maybe she could get to that level, maybe not. What's in it for her? She does seem to pick up the choreography easily and always seems to move well with music. Perhaps in the future she could teach at Pierantione's studio, or maybe with Gregoire though that would probably require moving from Corsica. She has become more accepted by the French now, though I'm not sure for what skill-set. She is often mentioned in gossip pages now, and is on TV almost every Saturday evening. Most importantly, all of this new recognition is in France. She really needs to get a new album out quickly, but it has to be something that people will buy. And in order for that to happen, I think she will need to take and follow advice from someone. So many of her new fans are young girls who discovered her in DALS and will probably give her a chance musically if she gives them something they like. I think her singing really shines when she sings songs that are chosen for her. At Enfoires someone else arranges the show. She sounds terrific at all the 'Samedi Soir..." shows. The Olly Murs and Tal duets work well. When she does covers and knows how they are 'supposed to sound' she does it. I don't usually like the way she sounds live singing her own songs. But I love all her songs because she chose them and they are important to her. I have hopes for the Goldman songs as well. He's had a long career making hits and maybe he'll coach her so the songs sound the way he intended. Maybe she can get him to advise her on the whole album. I don't think there will ever be a better time for her to make a big splash with an album as right now. Edit - Article from Monday: http://reviewer.lavoixdunord.fr/fr/t...-a-l-emission/ Quote:
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Good points peeps.. well Alizée is always gonna be Al♪zée no matter what and you can't take that away from her. Her success last year was something I don't think anyone could've imagined and even if we wanted or believed she was always capable of such success, I'm sure none of us could've hoped for such success in 2013 of all years and hopefully 2014 will be her year too in many ways.
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By the way, keep in mind that the pros on DALS are some of the best in the country. You are not seeing an average pro on DALS. You are seeing the elite. I have no doubt that she could dance at the professional level if she chose to. However, as she is simply not made of as sturdy stock as those on DALS, she could incur repeated injuries if she tried to get to elite level. Therefore, I have to agree with you that her actually dancing at that elite level is probably not a realistic goal. The question for her would be, if you can't get to elite level would you want to be a pro? I think for her, as she is used to being the star, the answer would be no. So then, what makes sense for her? I think she is now finally figured out what she is good at. SHE IS A PERFORMER, not a "singer." It is the total package that sets her apart, and does put her in the elite level of French performers. I think the French have finally figured it out as well. They finally "get" who she is, and have granted her celebrity status for who she is today. Quote:
She does seem to need to be managed, and seems happiest when she is managed well. She is very feminine. At heart, she wants to follow. I agree that she needs the type of work on her voice that she just went through with her dancing. She needs to be driven over a long period to constantly exceed herself. This is how she can get her voice into the same shape as her dancing now is. She also needs to have her manager do a better job of negotiating how the microphone is adjusted at some performances. She has a very quiet voice. She does not belt out songs. I have heard way to many of her performances where the amplification is not properly adjusted for her. They repeatedly underestimate how quiet her voice is. The result is often that either she is not heard for the first 2 sentences until someone turns up the mic, or that she tries to sing louder which often either pushes her slightly off-key or simply washes out some of the fine texture in her voice. Also, her voice is a little picky. She cannot sing just any song. She does need to have both the range, and sometimes even the words (the syllable sounds), carefully selected to maximize what her voice is best at. So, for her, it is not so much "go sing such-and-such," as it is "go sing this song in this key because the combination of the words and range brings out the magic in your voice." Quote:
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Rev, I think you summed up the situation really well and I totally agree with you. Working as a pro dancer probably has a much more demanding work schedule than what she would have in her current career, not to mention the physical demands on her body. I would think it would be difficult to maintain her residence in Corse if she was a pro dancer. Being a single mom, she'd probably prefer the time off she gets between albums. And potentially, she could make more money with less time investment as a pop artist. Hopefully DALS has helped to make that a possibility again. The key is coming out with a good album with songs that fit her voice, and to do it before the DALS magic fades away.
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