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12-14-2006, 03:15 AM
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Well there is truth to that in that French in Québec was standardized to the King's French back in the 1600's, but after the revolution in France they did away with the King and his French, long before France started to standardize French in France in the 20th century. So that is why a lot of pronouciations and expressions survived in Québec but not in France. But technically the King's French used was a very early modern French, and not Old French, which is very archaic like Old English.
But the Acadians, who never had their French standardized, have an even more archaic pronounciations and syntax than they do in Québec, so much so that I hardly understand them at all (the most pronounced Acadian accents have survived in the lower half of the province, here in the north we are mostly influenced by Québec's pronounciations. But I learned my French in school which was mostly based on Metropolitan French grammar and pronounciation, which is why I am now trying to research and learn the differences between québecois and Metropolitan French). EDIT: Wiki page on Acadian French Notice all the words like: mécordi : Wednesday (Fr: mercredi) or ouâille: yeah (Fr: ouais) and icitte: here (Fr: ici). And one I like to use: chavirer: to go crazy (Fr: devenir fou, folle). Last edited by Twitch; 12-14-2006 at 03:36 AM.. 
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#22
12-14-2006, 07:16 AM
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 That's funny how different all those Québécois accents can be, I mean if I compare those with the slighter ones that I can fully understand  And when I think about the Text to speech link that includes a French speaking Canadian, why did they choose someone who is 100% understandable by a French person? (just a slight accent). Is there some sort of "standard" pronunciation?
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#23
12-14-2006, 12:49 PM
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I know that if I listen to someone with a very thick foreign accent they would have to speak slowly for me to understand clearly.. I'm not sure if it's the same thing you are seeing/hearing.
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#24
12-14-2006, 01:33 PM
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Well that is part of it but they do have strong accents, even Perhonorificus, a Québecois, claimed that their accents were stronger/different than his (well at least Jean-Christian Thibodeau). And as to standardization I know each part of the Province has its regional variations like everywhere else, but I don't know if there is a standard for pronounciation.
What I was taught in school in New Brunswick was based mostly on Metropolitan pronounciation, so much so that one of my French teachers explained why we had a hard time understanding some of the local French people by showing us some of the differences. And how words like Pantoute, was a shortened version of Pas-en-toute (Fr: Pas du tout), and the shortened versions with the missing syllables are really hard to understand if you don't actually know them. For a short while Québec I believe had been 'officially' following France's example in pronounciation and grammar but they have since decided to preserve the unique qualities of québecois, which most people in Québec were still using regardless of any 'official' regulations. Most québecois are proud of the way they speak and are not interested in changing it, about the only thing I heard them want to do is try and remove the anglicizations that have occured over the years. Last edited by Twitch; 12-14-2006 at 01:39 PM..
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#28
12-15-2006, 02:24 PM
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 . Ahem, maybe you should speak French for that though  So is English only a second language for you too? Last edited by aFrenchie; 12-15-2006 at 02:29 PM..
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#29
12-15-2006, 04:24 PM
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Yes English is a second language for me
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