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[Aragorn97]

Originally Posted by Shepherd

What an amazing life.

Yes, it is full of these little coincidences. From this point of view, she has been very lucky. But she deserves every single particle of that luck.

Originally Posted by imverynuts

IMHO she really is like a Wonder of the World, nothing like her, before or since!

Originally Posted by imverynuts

I always think, "wow, this is the best photo I've seen yet" and then...

Originally Posted by Mr Coucou

In 2016, "Ajaccio" wrote the following on the forum:

I support everything you two said. Sometimes I try to keep a cool head while I'm thinking about her, but nothing makes sense. I mean, these are just photos... but how does she manage to create such deep feelings? She is just a human being like everyone else, so... how is it possible that something so beautiful exists among us? If she is a Wonder of the World, well she is the only one: there is nothing that could be on the same level of Alizée. And I'm not talking only about her beauty.
Everything seems so irrational with her... Sometimes I tell myself ''are you serious? she's just a normal person, what are you doing?'', but then I find myself writing things like this. I can't explain the existence of someone like her. She is really beyond ''time and space''. I only know that I need her to be in my life

[bebert057]

[Aragorn97]

Oh and remember:

Don't put too much lemon in your cakes!

[Mr Coucou]

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

Sometimes I try to keep a cool head while I'm thinking about her, but nothing makes sense. I mean, these are just photos... but how does she manage to create such deep feelings?

The short answer:

There is something extraordinary about Alizee's facial features, and there is something extraordinary about Alizee's facial expressions. What we see in still photographs of Alizee is a synergy between the two.

(I don't fully understand it, but I'm working on it. Cracking Alizee's enigma code has become one of my goals in life.)

*****

It would be useful to analyze these two things separately.

1) Facial features--- what is about the shape of Alizee's nose, her jawline, her cheekbones, her eyes, and so on, that makes Alizee's face so pretty and so beautiful????

2) Facial expression--- what is it about Alizee's ability to pose in front of a camera??? In particular, what is it about Alizee's ability to create a certain "look" in her eyes when she is looking straight at the camera???

With regards to (2), imagine another girl who, like Alizee, is very pretty--- but who is average in her ability to pose for the camera. Imagine a picture of this girl side-by-side with a picture of Alizee. This other girl smiles sweetly and endearingly at the camera-- in the photo, she looks like a nice girl, but nothing really stands out about the photo. Alizee also smiles sweetly and endearingly at the camera--- but in the photo of Alizee, there seems to be a sparkle in Alizee's eyes, as if Alizee is looking right at you.

We can then further divide this into two questions:

1) In a purely photographic sense, what is a "sparkle" in the eyes??? In other words, by looking at the two photographs, can we determine exactly what is happening in the eye region of Alizee's face that is not happening in the eye region of the other girl's face???

and then...

2) How does Alizee do it??? How is Alizee able to consciously command the voluntary muscles in the eye region of her face so as to produce the "sparkle", whereas the other girl is apparently not able to do the same???

My point is that Alizee is doing *something*. There is something that Alizee is doing which produces the "sparkle" in her eyes-- the sparkle that gives the appearance that she is looking right at you. I don't fully understand it, but at the same time its not magic--- there is a science behind what Alizee is doing.

Enough said.

[CleverCowboy]

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

I support everything you two said. Sometimes I try to keep a cool head while I'm thinking about her, but nothing makes sense. I mean, these are just photos... but how does she manage to create such deep feelings? She is just a human being like everyone else, so... how is it possible that something so beautiful exists among us? If she is a Wonder of the World, well she is the only one: there is nothing that could be on the same level of Alizée. And I'm not talking only about her beauty.
Everything seems so irrational with her... Sometimes I tell myself ''are you serious? she's just a normal person, what are you doing?'', but then I find myself writing things like this. I can't explain the existence of someone like her. She is really beyond ''time and space''. I only know that I need her to be in my life

If you only saw Alizee videos of her live performances and nothing else, do you think you would feel the same? No interviews and no magazine articles. No social media. You would know nothing of her personally.

[Mr Coucou]

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

If she is a Wonder of the World, well she is the only one: there is nothing that could be on the same level of Alizée. And I'm not talking only about her beauty.

Consider the actress Emma Watson. I think Emma Watson is very pretty.

What if Emma Watson had the exact mannerisms of Alizee??

What if in photos there was a "sparkle" in Emma Watsons's eyes, as if Emma Watson is looking right at you in every single photo you see of her--- just like Alizee?

For that matter, what if it was Emma Watson in En Concert, performing with the exact same mannerisms, facial expressions and physical grace as Alizee?? What kind of impression would Emma Watson make on you versus Alizee???

I speculate that, at least for myself, Emma Watson would have the same effect on me--- or at least, close to the same effect on me--- as Alizee. But maybe I'm wrong.

(I wish was there was a way--- using "deepfake" techniques--- to change Alizee's face into Emma Watson's, just to see what the effect would be.)

P.S. If you are not impressed by Emma Watson, think of another girl who you think is very pretty.

[Aragorn97]

Originally Posted by Mr Coucou

The short answer:

There is something extraordinary about Alizee's facial features, and there is something extraordinary about Alizee's facial expressions. What we see in still photographs of Alizee is a synergy between the two.

(I don't fully understand it, but I'm working on it. Cracking Alizee's enigma code has become one of my goals in life.)

*****

It would be useful to analyze these two things separately.

1) Facial features--- what is about the shape of Alizee's nose, her jawline, her cheekbones, her eyes, and so on, that makes Alizee's face so pretty and so beautiful????

2) Facial expression--- what is it about Alizee's ability to pose in front of a camera??? In particular, what is it about Alizee's ability to create a certain "look" in her eyes when she is looking straight at the camera???

With regards to (2), imagine another girl who, like Alizee, is very pretty--- but who is average in her ability to pose for the camera. Imagine a picture of this girl side-by-side with a picture of Alizee. This other girl smiles sweetly and endearingly at the camera-- in the photo, she looks like a nice girl, but nothing really stands out about the photo. Alizee also smiles sweetly and endearingly at the camera--- but in the photo of Alizee, there seems to be a sparkle in Alizee's eyes, as if Alizee is looking right at you.

We can then further divide this into two questions:

1) In a purely photographic sense, what is a "sparkle" in the eyes??? In other words, by looking at the two photographs, can we determine exactly what is happening in the eye region of Alizee's face that is not happening in the eye region of the other girl's face???

and then...

2) How does Alizee do it??? How is Alizee able to consciously command the voluntary muscles in the eye region of her face so as to produce the "sparkle", whereas the other girl is apparently not able to do the same???

My point is that Alizee is doing *something*. There is something that Alizee is doing which produces the "sparkle" in her eyes-- the sparkle that gives the appearance that she is looking right at you. I don't fully understand it, but at the same time its not magic--- there is a science behind what Alizee is doing.

Enough said.

I adore this kind of analysis.

It is really similar to what happens in Formula 1. 90% of the work is done by the car, BUT it is that remaining 10% that makes all the difference. And that 10% is obviously the driver. You can put 2 different drivers on the same car (the beauty of Alizée and the other nice girl) but there will always be a winner and the loser (and by the way Alizée has always the best car).

What you said is correct: there is science behind what Alizée is doing. Science is behind everything. The fact is that we don't fully understand science. Or, to be more precise, science is just the model of what we understand of nature. And scientific models are, by definition, imperfect and approximate.
And what is one of the field that we understand the less (is "the less" grammarly correct here? Lol): human mind.
Some say love is just a plethora of electric connections between our cells. Well, it is true. But we all know that this is not the answer we're looking for.
All this to say that I don't think we can understand ''Alizée's enigma code" the way we would like to. We all know that Alizée isn't "Alizée" for everyone. So we should analyze not only her, but all the people that feel those strong feelings towards her. So the fact is that Alizée isn't doing just something, but she is doing something to someone.
I agree with what you have said, but in my opinion we can't say nothing more than "Alizée has something or is doing something". It is impossible to define that "something" (at least, I think so). Obviously we can make some hypothesis but I don't think we can find an answer.
I like to see it this way: we are all like puzzle pieces. Alizée is the one that matches us. Why does Alizée do it to so many people? The possibilities to consider:

-Everything is happening in our mind. Millions of minds. We don't know who is actually Alizée. She could be a serial killer from what we know;
-Alizée has something magical. Maybe the same kind of magic that 2000 years ago made people say "Look it's raining. Jupiter must be sad".
I hope I've been clear. I adore this philosophical discussion, but this kind of things is difficult to explain.

Originally Posted by CleverCowboy

If you only saw Alizee videos of her live performances and nothing else, do you think you would feel the same? No interviews and no magazine articles. No social media. You would know nothing of her personally.

Is it a rethorical question? I didn't understand xd
Anyway I'll partially answer: i saw from those performances that she had something. So I began to follow her and here I am trying to understand what that "something" is

Edit:

Originally Posted by Mr Coucou

Consider the actress Emma Watson. I think Emma Watson is very pretty.

What if Emma Watson had the exact mannerisms of Alizee??

What if in photos there was a "sparkle" in Emma Watsons's eyes, as if Emma Watson is looking right at you in every single photo you see of her--- just like Alizee?

For that matter, what if it was Emma Watson in En Concert, performing with the exact same mannerisms, facial expressions and physical grace as Alizee?? What kind of impression would Emma Watson make on you versus Alizee???
.

To be honest, I don't know. I've had some "crushes" before Alizée, but nothing like what I'm experiencing now. I've found that sparkle (and much, much more) only in her. That's why I'm so confused.

Since what you said can't be demonstrated, I'll answer by using what I know from other fields.

Let's put two artists instead of Alizée and Emma Watson (my Emma Watson will be Barbara Palvin lol) and let them "work" on the same thing.
They can be two painters that draw the same landscape or two singers that sing the same song or what you want. I think that you've grasped what I'm saying... There is a big difference between two singers or two painters. A difference that is strictly connected to your feelings and to those artists' way to be.


But obviously this is just a theory I made starting from a different topic. I don't know. I think no one know. My answer is that only Alizée can be Alizée. Is there someone "better" than her (for me/us)? Maybe. For now I see no one.

[imverynuts]

I've got a lot of artist sketches of Alizee.. the most impressive thing about this one is I don't think there's an actual photo like this that whoever could've sketched it from. Which is cray cray bc no one else has drawn a better sketch than this one IMHO. It really captures her essence IMO and again the fact that it may not have an actual photo i t's based off is just more impressive to me.



I'm pretty sure it's based off this photo set, but I couldn't find that particular angle:

photoset.jpg

Anyway what I'm getting at is someone who looks at faces alot (like who could tell us something maybe.

My personal opinion/speculation is she has the most feminine face and compelling eyes I've ever seen. The fact she dances so well and in a feminine way and also acts extremely feminine just adds to the most womanly woman to ever woman.

I think Mylene saw this clearly and knew guys would go crazy over her. She wasn't wrong.. I suspect this forum might agree with me :-D

[Aragorn97]

Originally Posted by imverynuts

I've got a lot of artist sketches of Alizee.. the most impressive thing about this one is I don't think there's an actual photo like this that whoever could've sketched it from. Which is cray cray bc no one else has drawn a better sketch than this one IMHO. It really captures her essence IMO and again the fact that it may not have an actual photo i t's based off is just more impressive to me.

I agree with you. This is the first portrait of Alizée that I like. From what I know, it shouldn't be too difficult to create a new "photo" like this one, because as you can see, this sketch is really similar to the photo you found. But the talent of the guy who drew this isn't common.

It reminds me of a friend that was incredible at drawing portraits. He attended what we call Liceo artistico (it should be art high school in English, I guess) and I think he is doing something similar at university. I haven't seen him for years, but I should have him among my Facebook friends. To be honest, I've thought to pay him for an Alizée portrait a couple of times... But I don't have the courage to ask lol Because actually I'm a friend of his brother (that I haven't seen for the same time), that's why I know him.
If I find something, I'll let you see a couple of his drawings, just to let you know what a portrait of Alizée would be like

Originally Posted by imverynuts

I suspect this forum might agree with me :-D

Don't know why I think the same thing lol

Edit:

FOUND!





Now imagine Alizée portraied by this guy.

[imverynuts]

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

I agree with you. This is the first portrait of Alizée that I like. From what I know, it shouldn't be too difficult to create a new "photo" like this one, because as you can see, this sketch is really similar to the photo you found. But the talent of the guy who drew this isn't common.

Actualy I looked a bit closer and over looked one wwhere she has her hands up, this must be it, he just took out the hands:


Still it's the best Alizee sketch I've seen, I even like the sketch more than the photo because there's less makeup

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

It reminds me of a friend that was incredible at drawing portraits. He attended what we call Liceo artistico (it should be art high school in English, I guess) and I think he is doing something similar at university. I haven't seen him for years, but I should have him among my Facebook friends. To be honest, I've thought to pay him for an Alizée portrait a couple of times... But I don't have the courage to ask lol Because actually I'm a friend of his brother (that I haven't seen for the same time), that's why I know him.

FOUND!\

Now imagine Alizée portraied by this guy.

Wow, yeah he is good! It would be quite something if he could draw an original sketch, it would be the first of its kind! I wonder what that would cost.. I suppose I'd just have to ask eh?