Epic YouTube comment on Alizee video

[Aragorn97]

Originally Posted by imverynuts

I hate to imagine ALIZEE of all people feeling like they're defective or not good enough

Exactly. When you told me (I think yesterday) that Jeremy might have cheated on her, I felt so bad for her. I was so worried that I refreshed the page a lot of times, waiting for you to tell me that it was just a hypothesis lol

Luckly now she has Greg, who, as CleverCowboy said, was and is a gentleman

[imverynuts]

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

Exactly. When you told me (I think yesterday) that Jeremy might have cheated on her, I felt so bad for her. I was so worried that I refreshed the page a lot of times, waiting for you to tell me that it was just a hypothesis lol

Luckly now she has Greg, who, as CleverCowboy said, was and is a gentleman

Oh sorry man yeah anytime I say something like that unless I'm explicitly showing evidence or something I'm just speculating is all.

Yah, I feel Alizee is in very good hands with Greg. Given his passion for dance that they both share , I don't think there's a better person out there.

[Scruffydog777]

Was gone all day.....getting this out late.

Dals week 5

Without subs

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cdR...ew?usp=sharing

With subs

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MN-...ew?usp=sharing

[imverynuts]

Originally Posted by Scruffydog777

Was gone all day.....getting this out late.

Dals week 5

Without subs

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cdR...ew?usp=sharing

With subs

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MN-...ew?usp=sharing

Nah Scruffy you're precisely on time and I am only ever grateful for these. I already had the subbed versions as I've said but the raw ones are so much more HD it's like seeing this stuff for the first time again!

[CleverCowboy]

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

Exactly. When you told me (I think yesterday) that Jeremy might have cheated on her, I felt so bad for her. I was so worried that I refreshed the page a lot of times, waiting for you to tell me that it was just a hypothesis lol

I think it is a universal belief that Jeremy was not satisfied with Dream Girl at home and had strayed. He was, after all, a teen idol at that time and no doubt had girls throwing themselves at him. Alizee was at home big and pregnant. It is easy to see how that conclusion could be made and I happen to be one to believe it happened, but there is no concrete proof.

What I have always thought strange was the scarcity of photos of them together. Sure, there were the staged photos, but even those tapered off after a few years. When their pictures made magazine covers, they were two separate photos merged together. Of the public photos of them together, he is not even doing the simplest things, like holding Alizee's hand or having his arm around her. To me it signals the lack of commitment or not wanting to appear too committed to one girl. A definite red flag.

What can be said in confidence is that the arrival of Annily changed the dynamic of their relationship, essentially from smoking hot girlfriend to "wife" and "mother". Some lyrics from Mon Chevalier gives some insights:

My knight of rubbish
My little scoundrel
That looks beautiful in the eyes of girls
But doesn’t look at me

and

He doesn’t like French movies
He prefers porn on the internet
When we make love
He turns off the lights, my knight

Alizee spells it out pretty clearly.

[Aragorn97]

Originally Posted by CleverCowboy

My knight of rubbish
My little scoundrel
That looks beautiful in the eyes of girls
But doesn’t look at me

and

He doesn’t like French movies
He prefers porn on the internet
When we make love
He turns off the lights, my knight

Alizee spells it out pretty clearly.

Wow! I didn't know the translation of this song.The more I find out about 5, the more it seems to be underrated...

I found also this stanza, that could refer to her marriage and what you said:

He tells me that at 30 years old
It still feels young
To have children
That it may not be the time
I ask him if he loves me
He doesn’t want to commit himself, my knight



I've always thought that she got married too young. Not only for her career; I mean that a 20 year-old person is not ready to have children. Obviously I bet there are thousands of people that got married at that age and are happy, but I'm talking in general. You have to be sure that the man you're going to marry is actually mature and knows what he is doing. I think the problem is here.
Probably she felt ready for that. After all she was already working, had traveled all over the world and had everything she could ever need for a family. And it seems good for her, since her mother and grandmother had children at that age. The problem is that when there are this kind of "young" marriage and they don't go well, it is almost always the woman that pays.

Originally Posted by CleverCowboy

I think it is a universal belief that Jeremy was not satisfied with Dream Girl at home and had strayed. He was, after all, a teen idol at that time and no doubt had girls throwing themselves at him. Alizee was at home big and pregnant. It is easy to see how that conclusion could be made and I happen to be one to believe it happened, but there is no concrete proof.

As I said, I know almost nothing about him and I might be conditioned by the fact that I've known him as her ex husband, but I have to say that I never liked him. I don't know, there is something in him that tells me that he is not sincere... I'm not saying that he is a bad guy, but if I met him as a university colleague, I wouldn't trust him...
Moreover you're right, Alizée was having some problems during those years... So yes, it could be that he wanted another girl. I just hope that he had discussed it with Alizée before "acting" (if this is actually the problem). Respect must be the most important thing in a relationship.

Edit:

Moreover some say that girls become mature earlier than boys... Don't know if it is true but usually the elderly seem to know this kind of thing.

[CleverCowboy]

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

I've always thought that she got married too young. Not only for her career; I mean that a 20 year-old person is not ready to have children. Obviously I bet there are thousands of people that got married at that age and are happy, but I'm talking in general. You have to be sure that the man you're going to marry is actually mature and knows what he is doing. I think the problem is here.

Maybe Alizee wanted to get married young to have children at an early age, but maybe she was insecure about her relationship with Jeremy and rushed it to keep from losing him.

Jeremy was in Stars à domicile a few months before he married Alizee. I'm not sure if you have seen it.

At about the 12 minute mark, it is enough to make you ill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5yHSewMjd0&t=311s

[imverynuts]

Originally Posted by CleverCowboy

Alizee spells it out pretty clearly.

Oh man This doesn't help my suspicions about him at all. I just need to go to work today and not dwell on this. I just keep imagining all these scenes of a guy with the most beautiful, gentle, and honest lady I've ever seen being ignored and rejected by some guy with the mind of a disloyal middle schooler!





I see nothing wrong her there and at worst she looks look a cute little pregnant librarian. There's another pic I can't find where she's smiling and pregnant and I cannot imagine for the life of me ever straying from this woman. I need to just calm down and go to work today. I'll see you guys later.

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

The problem is that when there are this kind of "young" marriage and they don't go well, it is almost always the woman that pays.

I'm of the opinion myself if Gregoire had been who Alizee married they might have 3-4 kids or something and none of what Clevercowboy spelled out would've occurred. She definitely had the money by the second album, luckily she shouldn't ever have to worry about money AFAICT.

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

Moreover you're right, Alizée was having some problems during those years... So yes, it could be that he wanted another girl. I just hope that he had discussed it with Alizée before "acting" (if this is actually the problem). Respect must be the most important thing in a relationship.

Edit:

Moreover some say that girls become mature earlier than boys... Don't know if it is true but usually the elderly seem to know this kind of thing.

I don't think Jeremy was ever as smitten with Alizee as, say, us here or Gregoire. He saw her perform JEAM or something I suspect and that is where she has her most universal appeal. He wasn't the type of guy like us to find her extremely appealing when she just smiles with no makeup. The whole JEAM outfit doesn't really do much for me I guess. I'd say she was more appealing during DALS.

Combine that with my impression Jeremy's more out for himself and isn't really too loyal, well, here we are. Again I'm just glad she's with someone who truly appreciates her.

[Aragorn97]

Originally Posted by CleverCowboy

At about the 12 minute mark, it is enough to make you ill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5yHSewMjd0&t=311s

Well, I have to say that you're quite right...
I mean, that girl met her hero (I guess it was the same that happened with Jessica). I suppose there is nothing wrong to hug her or to stay close to her, but I don't like the way he holds her hand.
In my opinion, when you have a girlfriend/boyfriend there are some little gestures that prove this and that I consider as kind of ritual. I mean, I would hold only my girlfriend's hand that way... But I don't know, to be honest I think that I'm too rigid about this kind of things. I don't know how a couple should behave. I tend to see things too morally and I don't even know what I would do in the same situation.
But, no, I don't like that. And now that you let me see him again, I wonder the same thing I asked myself the first time I saw him: what did Alizée find in him? That's her business, but i can't imagine Alizée next to him...

Originally Posted by imverynuts

I see nothing wrong her there and at worst she looks look a cute little pregnant librarian. There's another pic I can't find where she's smiling and pregnant and I cannot imagine for the life of me ever straying from this woman. I need to just calm down and go to work today. I'll see you guys later.

I hate this kind of photos. These are the typical photos that magazines choose on purpose to make celebrities look bad. This kind of magazine should burn.
For example, here you can see that in a photo Alizée is looking nervous while at the phone and in the other one she is making a sort of grimace. This kind of photos are always taken with this perfect timing...

I see nothing wrong in her. She is just a pregnant girl that is not on the stage. It might not be the most beautiful Alizée of all times but if she's pregnant, it is obvious that she can't have the body of a topmodel. Nevertheless she looks cute. And who knows which problems she could have in those days.
Italy is full of this idiotic magazines. I just can't understand why they want to make people feel bad for nothing.
Elle... Lolita? Sure she is a lolita! No one could ever dream to be as beautiful as she is and always will be.

Edit:

By the way, I agree with you, imverynuts. If she had met Greg instead of Jeremy 15 years ago, I think that she would have pondered the idea of just living a normal life with him. As you said, luckily Alizée has never had to worry about money. She would have enjoyed her life just as she's doing now.

[imverynuts]

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

That's her business, but i can't imagine Alizée next to him...

I can see things like maybe he didn't really worship her at feet (neither does Gregoire, right in front of her anyway lol), and I don't think women like that in a guy. He obviously had other options, and I do think women like men with options other than them yet still are their girlfriend, since that means said men are highly valued and/or capable.

Women's reasons for being attracted to men are can, of course, be very different than the reasons men are for women.

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

I hate this kind of photos. These are the typical photos that magazines choose on purpose to make celebrities look bad. This kind of magazine should burn.
For example, here you can see that in a photo Alizée is looking nervous while at the phone and in the other one she is making a sort of grimace. This kind of photos are always taken with this perfect timing...

I see nothing wrong in her. She is just a pregnant girl that is not on the stage. It might not be the most beautiful Alizée of all times but if she's pregnant, it is obvious that she can't have the body of a topmodel. Nevertheless she looks cute. And who knows which problems she could have in those days.
Italy is full of this idiotic magazines. I just can't understand why they want to make people feel bad for nothing.

Another impression/guess of mine is Jeremy likes girls who are considered hot more than he likes girls for who they are. Between seeing her pregnant and tabloids trashing her for cheap views, he realized his 'conquest' had run its course.

Even if the entire world thought she looked ugly I know better. I knew that the first time I saw that Amsterdam video. I still remember feeling like I was seeing something I'd never seen before. Still haven't.

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

Elle... Lolita? Sure she is a lolita! No one could ever dream to be as beautiful as she is and always will be.

I know I've said it several times now, but I'm so glad she has someone who appreciates her now. Better late than never.

Originally Posted by Aragorn97

By the way, I agree with you, imverynuts. If she had met Greg instead of Jeremy 15 years ago, I think that she would have pondered the idea of just living a normal life with him. As you said, luckily Alizée has never had to worry about money. She would have enjoyed her life just as she's doing now.

Yup, and I can still see her career having been the same otherwise, maybe less an album or so, but possibly even bigger if she didn't have whatever possible turmoil was going on behind the scenes.