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Old 06-06-2007, 04:54 PM
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:09 PM
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Found them interesting
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I saw this video on a TV show. It was in Spain.
Note that human eyes dont shine with the night vision thing.

And i also found pretty good this one
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:54 PM
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Zack, I didn't want to watch the second video (ten minutes is too long), but the first one is pretty freaky. However, that doesn't meant that it's some sort of ghost! It could easily have been some other animal, or maybe there was a different light reflecting off the eyes.
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:24 AM
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this is the only guy i take seriously on the subject of UFO ...well there are some others too but this guy the most.

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here are some links to his video about anti gravity. i know a little about physics and i think this guy is for real.

part 1


part 2 ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP2b2OrwO-8

part 3


part 4


part 5


part 6


part 7


part 8


part 9

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Old 06-19-2007, 05:41 AM
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The closest I might come to believing in the unexplained might be in things like OBEs and Lucid Dreams. What I mean by that is - the effects of altered consciousness. I think most of this stuff seems very real, but is generated in the head. I want objective, verifiable evidence for any of these sorts of things: Ghosts, Extra-Terrestrial Spacecraft (UFOs can really mean anything that hasn't been identified and can fly - lots of things of an Earthly nature could qualify), etc.
What would qualify as proof? Well, first off, a reliable source. University-level research or something from a scientific magazine. I don't want documentaries from some sensationalist media outlet - I want real science done on these things. James Randi's pointing the questioning in the right direction.
I'd love it if the universe had some really broad mysteries that weren't mere subjective experience. Personal accounts won't do much for me. If anyone has some real science backing up any paranormal claims, please let me see it. I'm really, really curious to see.
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:59 AM
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I truly believe there are things out there that can't be explained in the normal scientific sense....apparations and such (not saying they're the spirits of dead people), but I believe that something happens when we die...we have all this energy within ourselves, that when we die it has to be released somehow =\. UFO's, I don't really know what to believe about them, honestly I guess I'm kind of indifferent lol. Anyway I've had a couple of first hand experiences that I have a hard time proving scientifically that were kind of freaky, but does that mean that they were dead people doing them? I don't know.
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Hey, MiamMiam is back ! Haven't seen you post in a while...
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I truly believe there are things out there that can't be explained in the normal scientific sense....apparations and such (not saying they're the spirits of dead people), but I believe that something happens when we die...we have all this energy within ourselves, that when we die it has to be released somehow =\. UFO's, I don't really know what to believe about them, honestly I guess I'm kind of indifferent lol. Anyway I've had a couple of first hand experiences that I have a hard time proving scientifically that were kind of freaky, but does that mean that they were dead people doing them? I don't know.
what if our "energy" is just consumed by other living organisms, aka we just rot.
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Old 06-19-2007, 06:43 PM
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what if our "energy" is just consumed by other living organisms, aka we just rot.
When those with greater psychic sensitivity than a block of granite use the word "energy," generally they mean what is perceived by means of said sensitivity. It's an imprecise usage of the word.

Our "energy" as defined in physics is indeed consumed by other living organisms. However, that's not what MM was talking about.
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:12 PM
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well right now according to string theory physicists are saying that there could be up to 10 dimensions(4 we are aware of and 6 curled up in space) so if its true then we're 10th dimensional beings but we're only aware of 3 spacial dimensions plus time.

so there is a possiblity that these ghost and other stuff are there in the other dimensions but with our limited 5 senses we're not aware of them.

if you guys have a chance pick up a book call "Flatland" and its successor "Sphereland". they're great books on multi-dimensional thinking and very easy to read and understand.

and i think they are making a big budget hollywood movie on flatland too, here's the link

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0814106/

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