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Old 08-24-2007, 02:57 PM
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Those aren't the full lyrics, they've been on AFC for over a day and I've already translated them. However, I'd like to try transcribing what's in the minute-long clip that isn't already known. I'll do it right here; if anybody can help, I could use it. Grey is what I hear, but incorrect and nonsensical.


Fifty sixty
Né en cinquante,
Sexy soixante,
Si excitante,
S’extasie
Candide elle croit, tout ce qu’Andy
Qu'Andy dit d'elle ,
Qu’elle est la plus belle
De toutes les modeles

Pretty sixteen
Belle héroïne des sixties
Tu te dandines, t'es divine
Quand tu danses
Dans les yeux d’Andy.

Aduieu beam-up
Plus tard c'est le bombard
Quitte sa balla trunk
Pour conner love

edit: nevermind, you're talking about the lyrics after the bold words.

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Old 08-24-2007, 03:23 PM
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I'm starting to get a gut feeling this was a pirated clip recorded directly from the studio and released on the internet by a traitor in the camp of Alizee unknown to her as to who this traitor is

I bet Alizee is infuriated right now... boy I would love to be a fly on the wall of her home
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:26 PM
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Ok, So I havn't been up very long this morning and haven't gone back and read all of the new posts in this thread since last night about these FREAKING AWSOME clips. Still, I feel like I should say something intelligent, insightful... but it seems that as I listen to the clip on continuous loop that the only coherent reaction I can come up with (whether this is the proper time or place or not) is:

Je t'aime, Alizée!!!
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:32 PM
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Here's the translation of the full minute clip we have. I'm still adding stuff, so it's a bad idea to quote it.


Fifty // Sixty, transcribed by Cindy

Pretty Sixteen,
Belle heroïne des sixties,
Tu te dandines,
T'es divine,
Quand tu danses,
Dans les yeux d'Andy...
Adieu bee bop, Plus au top,
C'est le pop-art
Qui te sape
A la trappe,
Pop-corn et oola oop...

Rêve de gloire et de fortune,
Chic en Chanel, Amour et toujours glamour, (ou "l'amour est toujours glamour" )
Aux expos tu poses et t'exposes,
A 4oo Asa tu oses toutes les poses...

Fifty sixty
Né en cinquante,
Sexy soixante,
Si excitante,
S’extasie
Candide elle croit, tout ce qu’Andy
Qu'Andy dit d'elle ,
Qu’elle est la plus belle
De toutes les modeles



Fifty // Sixty, translated by espire

Pretty Sixteen
Beautiful heroine of the sixties
The way you move, you're divine
When you dance
In Andy's eyes

Goodbye, bebop, over-the-top,
It's the pop-art
That gets you
Trapped
Popcorn and hula-hoops

Dream of fame and fortune,
Chic and Chanel, love is glamour,
At expos you pose and expose,
In 400ASA(1) you try every pose.

Fifty sixty
Born in the fifties(2)
Sexy sixty
So excited
She's in ecstasy
Foolishly she believes all that Andy(3)
That Andy tells her
That she's the most beautiful (4)
Of all the models


Fifty // Sixty's theme, by mAfqA, Deepwaters, and espire

This song is about Andy Warhol, an artist in film, photography, and many other aspects, and his relationship with Edith "Edie" Sedgwick. She was featured in many of Andy's short films, and he called her his "superstar." They were often seen together. Edie Sedgwick was born in 1943, which would make her sixteen years old in 1959. A movie called "Factory Girl" was made, portraying the relationship between the two. It shows how Andy Warhol promised to make her a star, her rise to fame, and her eventual descent into obscurity.

The same thing has essentially happened between Mylène Farmer and Alizée. Mylène promised Alizée that she would become famous, and she did for a few years. However, Mylène seriously neglected Alizée late in the Mes courants électriques era, and Alizée became forgotten by most.


Fifty // Sixty line explanations, by espire

(1) 400ASA is a film type, so this line is read as "in front of the camera."

(2) Edie Sedgwick was not born in the fifties, she was born in 1943. However, she was discovered by Andy Warhol and born as a star in the fifties.

(3) Andy always promised that Edie would become a star. She was famous for a short time, but quickly became forgotten.

(4) Andy considered Edie to be the most beautiful of all his models.
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:36 PM
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Here's the translation of the full minute clip we have. I'll now add any explanations necessary.


Pretty Sixteen,
Belle heroïne des sixties,
Tu te dandines,
T'es divine,
Quand tu danses,
Dans les yeux d'Andy...
Adieu bee bop, Plus au top,
C'est le pop-art
Qui te sape
A la trappe,
Pop-corn et oola oop...

Rêve de gloire et de fortune,
Chic en Chanel, Amour et toujours glamour, (ou "l'amour est toujours glamour" )
Aux expos tu poses et t'exposes,
A 4oo Asa tu oses toutes les poses...

Fifty sixty
Né en cinquante,
Sexy soixante,
Si excitante,
S’extasie
Candide elle croit, tout ce qu’Andy
Qu'Andy dit d'elle ,
Qu’elle est la plus belle
De toutes les modeles




Pretty Sixteen
Beautiful heroine of the sixties
The way you move, you're divine
When you dance
In Andy's eyes

Goodbye, pop-art, over-the-top,
It's the pop-art
That gets you
Trapped
Popcorn and hula-hoops

Dream of fame and fortune,
Chic and Chanel, love is glamour,
At expos you pose and expose,
In 400ASA* you try every pose.

Fifty sixty
Born in the fifties
Sexy sixty
So excited
She's in ecstasy
Foolishly she believes all that Andy
That Andy tells her
That she's the most beautiful
Of all the models


*400ASA is a film type, equivalent to ISO 400
all i can say is DAYum, that's a good song. meaningful and nicely sung.

good job espire
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:40 PM
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Thanks! I'm still working out little things, but while I make this post, might I ask everybody to quote Cindy from AFC for her transcribing, and me for my translation when using this somewhere else?
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:46 PM
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Ah, now I begin to get the reference to Alizée's own life/career, and how she might relate to the story of Edie, even though superficially they are very different.

Matrix, I am skeptical about that idea of this being a pirated leak for the simple reason that we don't have the whole song. If you were a traitor in the camp, wouldn't you leak the whole thing, not just a teaser? An excerpt like this is an incentive to buy the single, not a replacement for it. I'm not sensing any fury from Alizée at the moment, but if she is mad and I'm just not sensing it, then she needs to lighten up IMO. This is doing her no harm -- just the opposite.
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:46 PM
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I just found out about the clip and OMG IT IS LILI!!!!!!!

I don't know whether I want to cry from happiness or scream out in joy. I have this huge smile on my face, and I am so freakin excited and happy and ecstatic. Every time I listen to it I get flooded with these emotions. This is really her. This is our beloved Lili. I am getting to hear something new from her, and it is so awsome. I am not going to sleep tonight. I feel like I have been injected with a huge amount of energy and pure happiness. This is Lili!

LILI'S Back, YOUPIDOU!!!

can i get that clip plz?
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"Saper" means "to undermine." Is that what you mean by "gets you?" Or would the meaning be more clear if you said something like "weakens you" or "(is) your weaknses?"

Also, "oser" means "to dare," not "to try."
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:55 PM
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Ah, now I begin to get the reference to Alizée's own life/career, and how she might relate to the story of Edie, even though superficially they are very different.
Wow, you really are a brilliant guy, Deepwaters! Mind if I stick that idea in my post, which I might eventually create a topic for once it's complete?


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"Saper" means "to undermine." Is that what you mean by "gets you?" Or would the meaning be more clear if you said something like "weakens you" or "(is) your weaknses?"

Also, "oser" means "to dare," not "to try."
Don't worry, I looked everything up to make sure . I was concerned about everything that you just mentioned, but "gets you" is meant to be "undermine" and I think works better in a song. I also wanted to use "dare" but it didn't really sound right. Also, "pose" in English is much more relevant to girls and modelling than in French, I believe.
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