"New" Old Photos from 2002

[lobowolf14]

I have a feeling this might be when she got a tattoo?

[fsquared]

Originally Posted by lobowolf14

I have a feeling this might be when she got a tattoo?

Uhm...we're not talking about Brit-Brit here. Give the lady some credit.

Originally Posted by WyomingGrizFan

Sounds like 'racism' to me='that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.' At least according to dictionary definition, for what it's worth. As if the 'Prime Directive' denoted those as having such a 'directive' as superior to any species they come across. Good for a sense of superiority to not consider oneself as racial, I guess. At least like what François-Marie Arouet would say in his Dictionaire Philosophique: 'State Religion' and then there is 'Thelogical Religion.'
Religion<religo, to bind: philosohically speaking, 'to bind' notions together based upon teleological, cosmological (the cosmography of consciousness) and ontological grounds.

In other words, being that the intangible can never really be adjudicated, though 'logical essence' can be inferred, as 'logic' is consistent for all species, then it is up to the individual concerned to relate of what they mean by what they say and have done, and not necessarily left up to someone else doing so for them based on no better than mere reputation cast forth by others and/or by implication, as any mere statement based on inclination has no moral value. Not unless it's your lawyer.

Um...you're saying something like "people should figure out the significance of their actions, rather than have others tell them what their actions mean?"

The Prime Directive: greatest rule made to be broken in TV history

[WyomingGrizFan]

Yes, the word 'like' is, as in 'similar.' Like you used yourself, 'Solaris'...'Like if we went back in time and...'etc., etc., etc.

As has been stated from previous individuals on this planet, that "no one really doubts their sense of judgement" (Kant)...as reality is a matter of judgement and error, a matter of semblance, is a matter of judgement as well. As William James, the Head of the Psychology Department of Harvard University at the turn of the century would say:"reality happens, what a person thinks of it is a truism."

But to say of what someone else 'meant,' by what they may have inferred...'not really about race,' is also erroneous. You were part of the production company then? Of what do you call a virus?...a bacteria? Are you going to sit down with a specimen of such and reason morally with it? Or do you cite your presumed superiority by calling someone else 'dude,' as if they are less educated and less of a human being than your attitudinal "ain't got a mind unless I saw a movie,"..."they're my role-model." "My country right or wrong." "If it weren't for us, there'd be no France, or Europe or Asia nor nothing, dude."
Good enough to say you take the moral high ground, the military is duly instructed not to use torture by any means and follow the Geneva Convention; but the CIA doesn't have to respect that, of course.

So, what figthing words do you refer to?...verbatim?...and for who do they best suit?

[Solaris]

Originally Posted by WyomingGrizFan

Yes, the word 'like' is, as in 'similar.' Like you used yourself, 'Solaris'...'Like if we went back in time and...'etc., etc., etc.

As has been stated from previous individuals on this planet, that "no one really doubts their sense of judgement" (Kant)...as reality is a matter of judgement and error, a matter of semblance, is a matter of judgement as well. As William James, the Head of the Psychology Department of Harvard University at the turn of the century would say:"reality happens, what a person thinks of it is a truism."

But to say of what someone else 'meant,' by what they may have inferred...'not really about race,' is also erroneous. You were part of the production company then? Of what do you call a virus?...a bacteria? Are you going to sit down with a specimen of such and reason morally with it? Or do you cite your presumed superiority by calling someone else 'dude,' as if they are less educated and less of a human being than your attitudinal "ain't got a mind unless I saw a movie,"..."they're my role-model." "My country right or wrong." "If it weren't for us, there'd be no France, or Europe or Asia nor nothing, dude."
Good enough to say you take the moral high ground, the military is duly instructed not to use torture by any means and follow the Geneva Convention; but the CIA doesn't have to respect that, of course.

So, what figthing words do you refer to?...verbatim?...and for who do they best suit?

Did I anger you in same way by using dude...I'm sorry did not mean to come off like that. My apologizes.

[Fusoya]

Originally Posted by Chommpers

Those are really cute pic's of her thanks for the link.

I doubt she is really stoned. Doesn't everyone got a picture of themselves or their friends in which they look stoned eventhough they are not?

Haha, Yeah

[WyomingGrizFan]

Originally Posted by fsquared

Um...you're saying something like "people should figure out the significance of their actions, rather than have others tell them what their actions mean?"

Actually both, and neither, wouldn't you think? Taking into consideration something like out of the Platonic Republic, that 'knowledge is relative to being and being knows it,' or like W. James would refer to as the 'Pragmatic survival of the fittest:' otherwise known as,..undoubtedly, Universal Justice is based upon Reason:' taking into consideration John Locke's 1689 Treatise Concerning Human Understanding wherein it states that there are two sources of knowledge, one upon that through the five senses, and the other based on contemplation, of which 'reason' is a form of contemplation.' As onto the Aristotlelian 'Prior' and 'Posterior' Analytics, as 'Jedi' is but saying that 'Mind is but perception,' but 'there be two operations of the mind: analysis and synthesis. how interestingly, in Barbara Mertz's treatise Red Land, Black Land (1966) another name for Tetteta was somewhat rendered Tettjedi. As in the Kalavala: 'The Force exists because mankind exists and mankind can ponder it.'

One doesn't have to consider themselves a so-called member of the 'moral police' in such a derisive fashion and allusion. Like some resentment of 'authority.' The stem of the word 'principle' can also be delivered as 'self-government' as well. Besides which, I've also heard of the term 'snobbery of the underling' as mentioned in Talbot Mundy's novel called The Devil's Guard. Interesting, how humanity is always seemingly brought down generation after generation to the level of savages by many that are jealous of someone else's accomplishments. And then they gloss over their actions and rationalize them like some victimizer saying they're the victim. "For the Republic we slew Ceasar!!"

Yes, 'fsquared,' I agree with the James Schyler Grimm character of Talbot Mundy's novels, primarily written between 1915 and 1937, about the 'Pragmatic Adventurer,' like what W. James hinted at in his 1907 treatise called Pragmatism wherein it is cited that 'Pragmatism' is an 'adventure':' wherein "all fair in love and war is the stupidest statement ever made" and "conscience deals with the consequences of one's own actions."
Or, back to the Platonic Republic where a question is asked:.."what would you rather be, a victim or a victimizer?"

...or as Nietzsche would say in response, "if it doesn't kill you, it strengthens you:"..spoken by only the victim, if I dare say, not the victimizer, one may say. Personally, I'd much rather be syncretic, neither one or the other.

..or, again, as James had said once before: "actual chicken, possible egg," in response to which came first.

[Un-rêve]

Originally Posted by heyamigo

wow i like these pics, it shows the more human side of her. i am not a moral police and not gonna judge people using drugs (especially if they're experimenting) so it doesn't change my view of her in terms of her character. in fact, i am more impressed and somewhat happy that i have seen this side of alizée!

OK I don't mean to single you out but this comment you made just caught my eye, what's with some of you and all this crap about taking " drugs " and being stoned?
Damn one photo of Alizée where she was just blinking at the time of the shot, it would've took 1/10th of a second for that shot to have been taken.
Anyway it's like Chommpers said, we all have photo's like that. Look at the other photo's that are there aswell, Alizée looks radiant.



EDit:
Anyway apart from the privacy issue, it's a real shame that these photo's were leaked because it looks as though the only photo that's being given any attention is that one and for all the wrong reasons! Even more so on the Spanish forum over at AF.

[heyamigo]

okay perhaps i shouldn't sound like i assume she's high. she could very well not be. i came to this thread late and it seemed like people have concluded she was stoned, but yea she could just be intoxicated. i guess i should have included "if she..." in my post. but you're not saying you think she looks sober there, are you?

[Cooney]

She's got that beautiful Corsican tan going on hardcore there. That's the party where she received Topaze as a gift. Looks like she's showing him off for the cameras :-)

Love the Corsican flag in the background, and the flower in her hair (Right side - still single at the time).

[Vinny V.]

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