Mademoiselle Juliette Video - Director's Cut

[Deepwaters]

Originally Posted by Youpidou1

Why did that kiss, happen?

My guess (without consulting anyone who would actually know): the masked woman in both this and the released version represents Juliet's spirit, her destiny, her death, or all three.

In Shakespeare's play Romeo and Juliet, the scene with Juliet on her balcony and Romeo wooing her from below results in their elopement and marriage, which in turn leads to their deaths. After their deaths, the families ended their feud. Their deaths were a sacrifice, in that sense.

In the video, the masked woman interrupts this and leads Juliet through the scenes with the manikin-like women and the strange dance.

At the end of the dance, everyone except Juliet and the masked woman falls down. (Dead?) We can see the final fight-like dance as an acting-out of the family feud, with everyone getting killed (which they didn't in the play because the young lovers died and that shocked everyone out of their stupidity). The kiss, I think, is the masked woman assuming the identity of Juliet, merging the two of them, so that Juliet in the corset, Juliet playing that role, is no more, and the masked woman (Juliet's spirit) is free.

Can anyone tell me what connection to the song that had?

No direct connection, but all of the above resonates well with the song's theme of criticizing Shakespeare for his abusive treatment of his heroine. The video rejects the Bard.

And can anyone tell me why it was taken out?

Again, we have to guess, but I would say that Alizée (probably) decided to remove it because:

1) Its meaning was too obscure; and

2) It could divert everyone's attention from what the video was saying to questions of whether Lili was going lezzie.

[lefty12357]

Pretty good summation, Deepwaters. My guess is also that Alizée is the one who decided to remove the kiss.

I'm thinking that someone suggested trying it, so she did, and she didn't like the result. It was a cool idea, but Her Grace probably knows best. I don't think she's made any mistakes in judgment yet. Ya gotta go with what works...

[aditya8617]

2) It could divert everyone's attention from what the video was saying to questions of whether Lili was going lezzie. [/QUOTE]

I have feeling it is the second reason. But since this video is out anyways won't everyone still discuss lili going lezzie! But the kiss was separated by the mask, so it wasn't a proper kiss. Lili is smart!

[lefty12357]

The kiss was not passionate or sensual, so I wouldn't mistake it for that. The kiss was acted out exactly in the way needed to convey the explanation Deepwaters gave for the kiss.

[Youpidou1]

Originally Posted by Deepwaters

My guess (without consulting anyone who would actually know): the masked woman in both this and the released version represents Juliet's spirit, her destiny, her death, or all three.

In Shakespeare's play Romeo and Juliet, the scene with Juliet on her balcony and Romeo wooing her from below results in their elopement and marriage, which in turn leads to their deaths. After their deaths, the families ended their feud. Their deaths were a sacrifice, in that sense.

In the video, the masked woman interrupts this and leads Juliet through the scenes with the manikin-like women and the strange dance.

At the end of the dance, everyone except Juliet and the masked woman falls down. (Dead?) We can see the final fight-like dance as an acting-out of the family feud, with everyone getting killed (which they didn't in the play because the young lovers died and that shocked everyone out of their stupidity). The kiss, I think, is the masked woman assuming the identity of Juliet, merging the two of them, so that Juliet in the corset, Juliet playing that role, is no more, and the masked woman (Juliet's spirit) is free.

No direct connection, but all of the above resonates well with the song's theme of criticizing Shakespeare for his abusive treatment of his heroine. The video rejects the Bard.

Again, we have to guess, but I would say that Alizée (probably) decided to remove it because:

1) Its meaning was too obscure; and

2) It could divert everyone's attention from what the video was saying to questions of whether Lili was going lezzie.

Deep That was well said. Now I have a complete understanding of the video. I knew it was Romeo and Juliet but I never understood the whole 2 identity thing with 2 ladies.

[Jess]

Ok, now that all the dust has settled, I think I can post my thoughts on this:

I can't say I liked the second version of this at all. I think it gives out the wrong message, and attracts the wrong crowd. In fact when this video came out, I went around the different forums to see what the reaction was, and for the most part everyone liked it... but for the wrong reasons. I think she was smart not to release this version initially, however I don't know why it was released afterwards. Not everyone stops to figure out the meaning of things, and she still has a lot of young fans that would definitely not understand the meaning of this. Although I don't have a problem with the action, I totally disagree with artist resorting to anything to attract the masses, not saying that's what she's trying to do, but if you're really good you don't need any distraction to your music (period).

[ajaccio corsica]

hi
she said she used a real early 20th century corset in this videoclip
cheers

[Toc De Mac]

Originally Posted by Jess

Ok, now that all the dust has settled, I think I can post my thoughts on this:

I can't say I liked the second version of this at all. I think it gives out the wrong message, and attracts the wrong crowd. In fact when this video came out, I went around the different forums to see what the reaction was, and for the most part everyone liked it... but for the wrong reasons. I think she was smart not to release this version initially, however I don't know why it was released afterwards. Not everyone stops to figure out the meaning of things, and she still has a lot of young fans that would definitely not understand the meaning of this. Although I don't have a problem with the action, I totally disagree with artist resorting to anything to attract the masses, not saying that's what she's trying to do, but if you're really good you don't need any distraction to your music (period).

You think that this video would attract the masses if it was originally released as the official version?

Are you saying this because of the "kiss" at the end? If so, you have to realize that this "kiss" was hardly even a kiss and was completely symbolic. It's not as if people who watch the video would say, "Oh boy, erotic lesbianism!"

[Deepwaters]

Originally Posted by Toc De Mac

It's not as if people who watch the video would say, "Oh boy, erotic lesbianism!"

On the contrary, people are stupid enough that's exactly what they'd say.

The video doesn't send that message, but that's what would come through the filters in all too many people's brains. She was wise not to use it. It's too bad, really, but it's fact.